AFL Reserves Discussion...

[Ecky]

While I'm thinking about ruckmen...

Someone should ask Brenton Sanderson this:

How would Jack Osborn feel about having to play in the same Crows Reserves side as Ben Dowdell, Angus Graham and possibly Shaun McKernan as well?
How could they share ruck duties in a way that would be beneficial to each player’s development? And what if they had yet another backup ruckman on their list (some AFL clubs would)

Why would this model be more beneficial than the current model which allows each to play at their current level (League or Reserves) and allows the flexibility of moving them to another club if there happens to be too many other ruckmen at the club they are at?

Also would have Port really preferred Lobbe and Renouf to play for the same team on the weekend, rather than on opposing teams as they "auditioned" for the Power ruck position this weekend?

[Booney]

If the Magpies remain at league level then then Adelaide "slip into" the reserves comp playing the team who, at league level, have the bye.

For example this week it would have been Centrals. This could have been the AFL curtain raiser at Footy Park on Saturday.

[JK]

If the Magpies remain at league level then then Adelaide "slip into" the reserves comp playing the team who, at league level, have the bye.

For example this week it would have been Centrals. This could have been the AFL curtain raiser at Footy Park on Saturday.

So long as SANFL club players can't get reported or suspended from playing the bye, I'm all for that

[oldfella]

The simple fix is to give the league and reserves the same program, with the difference that when a club is drawn to play Crows/Port in reserves then the league team has a bye.

still reckon a fair compromise would be the Crows and Port having access to pick up players their first year out of u/18s, only for that year. Would take about 25 players out this way, so about 3 per club. Those who miss the draft get a bit of a lifeline, AFL clubs get a close look at players they considered, but overlooked.
Some finer details need to be sorted such as players' wages and FT or PT commitment v study/work/apprenticeship.

I feel that the above two quotes make sense especially FH reference use of first year out of u/18s.

Sadly for me as a Westies supporter I believe the end solution will see the end of the Magpies at League level but could be retained within the reserves.

At the end of the day, its all about the $$$

[Reddeer]

I mentioned before what is going to happen. The AFL will dangle a carrot that is impossible to reject that enables both Port and Crows into the League Comp as normal competitors. Despite all the current objections and hype by those clubs dead against it the money will roll them over. You can bet your bottom on dollar it. The SANFL will rebadged as the SAAFL

[Booney]

If the Magpies remain at league level then then Adelaide "slip into" the reserves comp playing the team who, at league level, have the bye.

For example this week it would have been Centrals. This could have been the AFL curtain raiser at Footy Park on Saturday.

So long as SANFL club players can't get reported or suspended from playing the bye, I'm all for that

Well, no one should be reported when playing Centrals EVER.

[Ecky]

I mentioned before what is going to happen. The AFL will dangle a carrot that is impossible to reject that enables both Port and Crows into the League Comp as normal competitors. Despite all the current objections and hype by those clubs dead against it the money will roll them over. You can bet your bottom on dollar it. The SANFL will rebadged as the SAAFL

It will only happen if enough people have your defeatist attitude Reddeer.

Luckily we have
- MANY very strong arguments against why it should happen
- MANY passionate people (including journalists and club presidents) who are strongly against it

So as long as the campaign against the move is co-ordinated well and we all make our feelings known to our SANFL clubs, then I am confident we can win the war!

[CENTURION]

If the Magpies remain at league level then then Adelaide "slip into" the reserves comp playing the team who, at league level, have the bye.

For example this week it would have been Centrals. This could have been the AFL curtain raiser at Footy Park on Saturday.

do I still pay $10 to get in?

[am Bays]

If the Magpies remain at league level then then Adelaide "slip into" the reserves comp playing the team who, at league level, have the bye.

For example this week it would have been Centrals. This could have been the AFL curtain raiser at Footy Park on Saturday.

do I still pay $10 to get in?

Yup, Booney will be collecting the money personally.....

[beenreal]

Good question kickinit.
I would say OK I will continue to follow my club with the same passion I always have since I was 8 years old.
One flaw in your argument. NO ONE except Port supporters believes the Crows and Port in the SANFL comp will do anything other than bugger it up. You Port bastards were happy to betray the SANFL for your own self interests and not hold firm like the rest of the SANFL clubs.... of course the PAFC are far more important than the whole state of South Australia !
Nothing has changed you are at it again with your own selfish goals. If the SANFL died the PAFC would laugh and say .... oh well we were part of that once but now we don't give a xxxx !

Why would a young lad want to play SANFL rather than SAAFL or country ? Because he has the best opportunity to reach the highest level in that comp ! The SANFL will always be the level AFL clubs will look for talent in this state. If a kid can not be bothered or motivated to play SANFL he will hardly cut it at AFL level.

Ahh, the old chestnut. Nothing warms the cockles of my heart than reading hypocritical Norwood supporters screeching about our "betrayal" in 1990.

Of course it's hard to go past footage of a teary eyed Norwood President, Nerio Ferraro lamenting how their failed AFL bid would consign his club to a slow, lingering death.

Naturally Number 1 on the Highlight Reel has to be the Norwood dude's handwringing look of anguish as Scotty Hodges won the free through superior body positioning, and then lined up for THAT KICK in the 1996 Preliminary Final.

Thanks for that SDK. Now I'm back in my happy place!

[The Sleeping Giant]

Kill off the magpies. It's the most humane thing to do.

[JK]

Ahh, the old chestnut. Nothing warms the cockles of my heart than reading hypocritical Norwood supporters screeching about our "betrayal" in 1990.

You've been asked multiple times to cough up about this "hypocrisy" but always go missing - Why's that?

[CUTTERMAN]

Call it blind faith, whatever, but I can see a Magpies sans AFL listed players at league level, reserves with AFL listed players ( at most 10-14 ) and U18's.

That would leave purely 10-14 spots in the reserves for AFL listed players.

They would train with the PAFC AFL during the week, as full time footballers, the remainder do the 2-3 sessions with the Magpies.

No doubt the league side would struggle, but its better than the alternative....

For me, from an SANFL point of view (and as concerning although not touched on as much during this Port bashing ) is where will Adelaide source, well, up to 15 players from?

Expand the NSW scholarship program to ACT, QLD & NT. Call it a sub rookie list in that they're not actually on an AFL list just playing for an AFL reserves team. Maybe it would help further the game and development in these states.

[Jim05]

Call it blind faith, whatever, but I can see a Magpies sans AFL listed players at league level, reserves with AFL listed players ( at most 10-14 ) and U18's.

That would leave purely 10-14 spots in the reserves for AFL listed players.

They would train with the PAFC AFL during the week, as full time footballers, the remainder do the 2-3 sessions with the Magpies.

No doubt the league side would struggle, but its better than the alternative....

For me, from an SANFL point of view (and as concerning although not touched on as much during this Port bashing ) is where will Adelaide source, well, up to 15 players from?

The under 18's have to go.
One of Port's arguments for a reserves side is that everyone else has got one so we should aswell.
Using that logic, no other AFL side has u18's, u16's or zones so Port shouldn't either.
The SANFL clubs should be demanding that one of the conditions of entering a reserves side is for the underage teams to be removed from the comp

[Dutchy]

Other issue with the SANFL draw which no doubt the Crows/Power will insist on if they come into either League or Reserves, is that they will never want to play on a Monday when their AFL team is playing on Saturday the next week (see Lyons/Wright withdrawal yesterday) or Sunday before a Friday night game. i.e No 5 day breaks, just another issue that would need to be worked through

[Aerie]

If the model of Port Magpies having all juniors, reserves, league with the Power playing reserves goes through, I'd imagine Adelaide would just do the same with one of the SANFL clubs. I'm sure for the right price, some club would put their hand up.

[Aerie]

Other issue with the SANFL draw which no doubt the Crows/Power will insist on if they come into either League or Reserves, is that they will never want to play on a Monday when their AFL team is playing on Saturday the next week (see Lyons/Wright withdrawal yesterday) or Sunday before a Friday night game. i.e No 5 day breaks, just another issue that would need to be worked through

Also if the AFL start the season earlier like suggested will the SANFL follow?

[am Bays]

If the model of Port Magpies having all juniors, reserves, league with the Power playing reserves goes through, I'd imagine Adelaide would just do the same with one of the SANFL clubs. I'm sure for the right price, some club would put their hand up.

Pity there will be seven other SANFL clubs voting against that model, so think again.

Unfortunately for the Magpies (and I have no pleasure in saying this) OTRs and Rucci's model is the one that is most likely to get up of all the proposals. $$$ will dictate if it is reserves or league.

In my opinion.

[LPH]

Kill off the magpies. It's the most humane thing to do.

Bullshit... Kill 'The Power' instead - THEY are the drain on the owners of their license.

[LPH]

If the model of Port Magpies having all juniors, reserves, league with the Power playing reserves goes through, I'd imagine Adelaide would just do the same with one of the SANFL clubs. I'm sure for the right price, some club would put their hand up.

I pray it's not OUR Club