Riverland Football Chatter

[Bum Crack]

Have to say I'm really concerned for the future of the Independent colts competition.
Lyrup, Wunkar and East Murray have all withdrawn their teams.
All of the others have struggled for numbers.
Then you see some of the u15 and u18 teams have got heaps of kids missing out each week.
We're lucky at Paringa that Renmark are willing to give us some of their players if we're short.
Some of the other clubs aren't so lucky.
Any thoughts of what can be done to fix this?

Wind up the independent competition altogether.

I think thats going too far, sounds like the numbers are there just not spread around or maybe even the location of some clubs i.e Browns well, morook even paringa. when I played up there I started in the U13's for loxton and only ended up going to wunkar because my mates from high school where playing out there Bland, S Shultz, Kassulke, evans and co, the league was very healthy in the late 80's early 90's but that was a long time ago, would be a sad day if this does happen which i hope it doesnt. Maybe these clubs need to approch the clubs that have the numbers to maybe encourage the kids out to these stuggling clubs like Renmark help Paringa

Yep. That's a small-minded view from one individual.
The A grade competition is quite strong, with the exception of Wunkar.

I know the Loxton teams might not be able to share their players as much due to having so many teams in the area.
Perhaps a merger of colts teams (not A grade) could be the answer.
Wunkar and East Murray's colts teams for example.

you reckon i'm the only one?? if they can't field junior teams now, it's only a matter of time until the senior teams fold as they will not have players to come up. I'd almost guarantee there will no longer be an independent competition within 10 years. Unfortunate, but a sad reality.

[Baron Greenback]

Following copied from sportingpulse
SANFL > 'be active' League 2010 > Sturt > Sturt
Michael Bratton
Previous Seasons
Reserves 2010 2010 11 1 0.09 1 House Brothers Oval 4
'be active' League 2010 2010 9 3 0.33 2 Hamra Homes Oval 1
'be active' League 2009 2009 20 3 0.15 2 House Brothers Oval 4
Reserves 2008 2008 18 5 0.28 3 Hickinbotham Oval 9
'be active' League 2008 2008 1 0.00

according to this Bratton played more reserves games than league games, so that means he come to Waikerie as a 3 point player & this season he would be worth 1 point.

Nah i reckon he's still 2 according to this:

B. State League Players (SANFL, AFL VIC, North East AFL, WAFL)
A player who has played a majority of matches for the Senior team for a Club or Clubs in any
one of the above State Leagues in their previous playing season – four (4) additional points,
less any deductions or concessions as set out below:
• A player who is registered to play with a Club of an Affiliated League who
returns to that Club of the Affiliated League will not attract any additional points
irrespective of the number of games played in the Senior Teams of the clubs in
any of the above State Leagues.
• Deduct one (1) point if the player did not play a game for the Senior Team of a
Club of any of the above State Leagues in the previous season.
• Deduct a further one (1) point for each Season since the player last played with
a senior team of a club of any of the above State Leagues.
• If a player has not played football at any level for 24 months or more before
resuming as a player he will automatically have a Player Points Rating of zero
(0).

He still played for the senior team.

[DARK KNIGHT]

I think you will find that Senior Team refers to the A grade team only, otherwise all over 18 b grade players in the RFL would attract points which of course they don't

[Freaky Tah]

Have to say I'm really concerned for the future of the Independent colts competition.
Lyrup, Wunkar and East Murray have all withdrawn their teams.
All of the others have struggled for numbers.
Then you see some of the u15 and u18 teams have got heaps of kids missing out each week.
We're lucky at Paringa that Renmark are willing to give us some of their players if we're short.
Some of the other clubs aren't so lucky.
Any thoughts of what can be done to fix this?

Wind up the independent competition altogether.

I think thats going too far, sounds like the numbers are there just not spread around or maybe even the location of some clubs i.e Browns well, morook even paringa. when I played up there I started in the U13's for loxton and only ended up going to wunkar because my mates from high school where playing out there Bland, S Shultz, Kassulke, evans and co, the league was very healthy in the late 80's early 90's but that was a long time ago, would be a sad day if this does happen which i hope it doesnt. Maybe these clubs need to approch the clubs that have the numbers to maybe encourage the kids out to these stuggling clubs like Renmark help Paringa

Yep. That's a small-minded view from one individual.
The A grade competition is quite strong, with the exception of Wunkar.

I know the Loxton teams might not be able to share their players as much due to having so many teams in the area.
Perhaps a merger of colts teams (not A grade) could be the answer.
Wunkar and East Murray's colts teams for example.

Merger sounds a lot better than folding especially when its only a few sides in one grade (colts) It may be a reflection on the times we are living in with the Internet, XBox, Playstation, Facebook, twitter and the like, my idea of entertainment back then was training and playing footy not that crap

[FULLY LOADED MAN]

according to sporting pulse 2010 Bratton played more reserves games than league games, so that means he come to Waikerie as a 3 point player & this season he would be worth 1 point[/quote]

and steele would be....

[Bum Crack]

Following copied from sportingpulse
SANFL > 'be active' League 2010 > Sturt > Sturt
Michael Bratton
Previous Seasons
Reserves 2010 2010 11 1 0.09 1 House Brothers Oval 4
'be active' League 2010 2010 9 3 0.33 2 Hamra Homes Oval 1
'be active' League 2009 2009 20 3 0.15 2 House Brothers Oval 4
Reserves 2008 2008 18 5 0.28 3 Hickinbotham Oval 9
'be active' League 2008 2008 1 0.00

according to this Bratton played more reserves games than league games, so that means he come to Waikerie as a 3 point player & this season he would be worth 1 point.

Nah i reckon he's still 2 according to this:

B. State League Players (SANFL, AFL VIC, North East AFL, WAFL)
A player who has played a majority of matches for the Senior team for a Club or Clubs in any
one of the above State Leagues in their previous playing season – four (4) additional points,
less any deductions or concessions as set out below:
• A player who is registered to play with a Club of an Affiliated League who
returns to that Club of the Affiliated League will not attract any additional points
irrespective of the number of games played in the Senior Teams of the clubs in
any of the above State Leagues.
• Deduct one (1) point if the player did not play a game for the Senior Team of a
Club of any of the above State Leagues in the previous season.
• Deduct a further one (1) point for each Season since the player last played with
a senior team of a club of any of the above State Leagues.
• If a player has not played football at any level for 24 months or more before
resuming as a player he will automatically have a Player Points Rating of zero
(0).

He still played for the senior team.

He's definitely 2 points this year

[Baron Greenback]

I think you will find that Senior Team refers to the A grade team only, otherwise all over 18 b grade players in the RFL would attract points which of course they don't

Yep, and he played nine games for the senior team according to those stats above.

[Bum Crack]

I think you will find that Senior Team refers to the A grade team only, otherwise all over 18 b grade players in the RFL would attract points which of course they don't

Yep, and he played nine games for the senior team according to those stats above.

If he played 15 games in reserves and only one game in the league, he still comes to the country club the next year as a 4 point player. when we got Toby Schutz, he was a 4 pt player and he had played majority of reserves games as well, but the fact he had played a couple of league games, made him a 4 point player.

[DARK KNIGHT]

I think you will find that Senior Team refers to the A grade team only, otherwise all over 18 b grade players in the RFL would attract points which of course they don't

Yep, and he played nine games for the senior team according to those stats above.

If he played 15 games in reserves and only one game in the league, he still comes to the country club the next year as a 4 point player. when we got Toby Schutz, he was a 4 pt player and he had played majority of reserves games as well, but the fact he had played a couple of league games, made him a 4 point player.

I would think that Schutz should have been only 3points, as like Bratton he played a majority in the reserves and the SANFL reserves is a cat 1 league and therefore 3 points

[Baron Greenback]

I agree with that too, but the rules say otherwise.
The whole APPS is a farce.
How can Independent players be worth 2 and B graders 0?

[Bum Crack]

I think you will find that Senior Team refers to the A grade team only, otherwise all over 18 b grade players in the RFL would attract points which of course they don't

Yep, and he played nine games for the senior team according to those stats above.

If he played 15 games in reserves and only one game in the league, he still comes to the country club the next year as a 4 point player. when we got Toby Schutz, he was a 4 pt player and he had played majority of reserves games as well, but the fact he had played a couple of league games, made him a 4 point player.

I would think that Schutz should have been only 3points, as like Bratton he played a majority in the reserves and the SANFL reserves is a cat 1 league and therefore 3 points

As soon as they play one league game, they are 4 points even if they played the majority of the year in reserves.

[FULLY LOADED MAN]

I would think that Schutz should have been only 3points, as like Bratton he played a majority in the reserves and the SANFL reserves is a cat 1 league and therefore 3 points[/quote]

As soon as they play one league game, they are 4 points even if they played the majority of the year in reserves.[/quote]

someone nervous??

[jack sparow]

I would think that Schutz should have been only 3points, as like Bratton he played a majority in the reserves and the SANFL reserves is a cat 1 league and therefore 3 points

As soon as they play one league game, they are 4 points even if they played the majority of the year in reserves.[/quote]

someone nervous??[/quote]
Im not nervous, I am just confused about this whole conversation. Does anyone know the rules?

[callop]

Regarding the points with Bratton. I would have thought after being here for a few seasons Waikerie and the league would know exactly how many points he's worth. I mean its declared every week and if a point is lost every season, it should be pretty simple to work out? You're debating his points now, why not last year or the year before that?

[Baron Greenback]

I would think that Schutz should have been only 3points, as like Bratton he played a majority in the reserves and the SANFL reserves is a cat 1 league and therefore 3 points

As soon as they play one league game, they are 4 points even if they played the majority of the year in reserves.

someone nervous??[/quote]
Im not nervous, I am just confused about this whole conversation. Does anyone know the rules?[/quote]

I posted the rules regarding sanfl players on the previous page

[Bum Crack]

Regarding the points with Bratton. I would have thought after being here for a few seasons Waikerie and the league would know exactly how many points he's worth. I mean its declared every week and if a point is lost every season, it should be pretty simple to work out? You're debating his points now, why not last year or the year before that?

I'm with you. I couldn't give a ****. I was just saying how the pts work. Barmera v waikerie gf and rest of comp just making up numbers.

[FULLY LOADED MAN]

Regarding the points with Bratton. I would have thought after being here for a few seasons Waikerie and the league would know exactly how many points he's worth. I mean its declared every week and if a point is lost every season, it should be pretty simple to work out? You're debating his points now, why not last year or the year before that?

because last year he was declared as 3 and this year he is declared as 1 that's why it's being debated...

[MATTY MITCHAM]

I'm with you. I couldn't give a ****. I was just saying how the pts work. Barmera v waikerie gf and rest of comp just making up numbers.[/quote]

Can't write off North, they will only get stronger with Big Baz up forward, thats what they have been missing!!

[jack sparow]

Regarding the points with Bratton. I would have thought after being here for a few seasons Waikerie and the league would know exactly how many points he's worth. I mean its declared every week and if a point is lost every season, it should be pretty simple to work out? You're debating his points now, why not last year or the year before that?

because last year he was declared as 3 and this year he is declared as 1 that's why it's being debated...

So since you seem to know everything about this situation, what has been the outcome regarding this? Points are allocated from the league, so I would have thought they have got him reduced to 1 as his previous season with sturt he played more ressies games.

[Shiney Forehead]

I think BC is correct,the reality is this area can not support 2 footy leagues