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Re: How big an impact will this have!

Postby Dog_ger » Tue May 14, 2013 11:07 am

Dogwatcher wrote:So, no gambling at all, dogger?


Why do we need it "Dogwatcher" :shock:

I am a no gambler. :D
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It's only Money $$$ :)

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Re: How big an impact will this have!

Postby tipper » Tue May 14, 2013 11:21 am

so because you dont do do something, no one else can either? so we should all stop making sense as well then?
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Re: How big an impact will this have!

Postby JK » Tue May 14, 2013 12:13 pm

Dog_ger wrote:
JK wrote:
Dog_ger wrote:Who is right "on the rails".

Me or You...? :D

No club is worth the demise of its community. :D

And that is what will happen through gambling. :D


The gambling will continue anyway, only via ventures that DON'T put back into their community, unlike the sporting clubs.


Please explain venues putting back into the community through poker machines...?

Like more poker machines..,.. :shock:


A portion of revenue is returned to grassroots football clubs within the zone, other affiliated sporting clubs and as OTR has said some bodies that aren't even affiliated.

What portion of $$ is returned to community groups from the Casino, or hotels owned by business groups that have shareholders?
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Re: How big an impact will this have!

Postby Dog_ger » Tue May 14, 2013 12:23 pm

JK wrote:
Dog_ger wrote:
JK wrote:
Dog_ger wrote:Who is right "on the rails".

Me or You...? :D

No club is worth the demise of its community. :D

And that is what will happen through gambling. :D


The gambling will continue anyway, only via ventures that DON'T put back into their community, unlike the sporting clubs.


Please explain venues putting back into the community through poker machines...?

Like more poker machines..,.. :shock:


A portion of revenue is returned to grassroots football clubs within the zone, other affiliated sporting clubs and as OTR has said some bodies that aren't even affiliated.

What portion of $$ is returned to community groups from the Casino, or hotels owned by business groups that have shareholders?


Is it $2.50 out of every $100? For Grassroots Footy, or less? :shock:
Smile :)

It's only Money $$$ :)

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Re: How big an impact will this have!

Postby JK » Tue May 14, 2013 12:34 pm

Dog_ger wrote:
JK wrote:
Dog_ger wrote:
JK wrote:
The gambling will continue anyway, only via ventures that DON'T put back into their community, unlike the sporting clubs.


Please explain venues putting back into the community through poker machines...?

Like more poker machines..,.. :shock:


A portion of revenue is returned to grassroots football clubs within the zone, other affiliated sporting clubs and as OTR has said some bodies that aren't even affiliated.

What portion of $$ is returned to community groups from the Casino, or hotels owned by business groups that have shareholders?


Is it $2.50 out of every $100? For Grassroots Footy, or less? :shock:


Ring your club and ask ..

A return to the community or return to the shareholder?? :shock:

Which would YOU prefer? :D

I'm wearing Silver jocks today .. :D

Food for thought my old friend :?
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Re: How big an impact will this have!

Postby tipper » Tue May 14, 2013 12:51 pm

Dog_ger wrote:
JK wrote:
Dog_ger wrote:
JK wrote:
The gambling will continue anyway, only via ventures that DON'T put back into their community, unlike the sporting clubs.


Please explain venues putting back into the community through poker machines...?

Like more poker machines..,.. :shock:


A portion of revenue is returned to grassroots football clubs within the zone, other affiliated sporting clubs and as OTR has said some bodies that aren't even affiliated.

What portion of $$ is returned to community groups from the Casino, or hotels owned by business groups that have shareholders?


Is it $2.50 out of every $100? For Grassroots Footy, or less? :shock:


regardless of how much it is, it is more than a pub would contribute. the changes will take machines away from clubs, thereby cutting benefit to community groups, and put the machines into pubs, thereby increasing money in the owners pockets. its robbing the poor to give to the rich.... maybe ease up a bit on the drugs mate, i think you've gone full retard
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Re: How big an impact will this have!

Postby RB » Tue May 14, 2013 12:54 pm

It would be a shame if there were no better ways of obtaining money for grassroots football than to use pokies to suck money out of people in footy clubs. Either way, I think we can all agree that the Sanfl clubs need to find ways to reduce their reliance on poker machines, preferably to the point of not needing them at all.
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Re: How big an impact will this have!

Postby Dogwatcher » Tue May 14, 2013 1:13 pm

RB wrote:It would be a shame if there were no better ways of obtaining money for grassroots football than to use pokies to suck money out of people in footy clubs. Either way, I think we can all agree that the Sanfl clubs need to find ways to reduce their reliance on poker machines, preferably to the point of not needing them at all.


I agree but I'd rather have the pokies in the hands of community clubs than the pokie barons - Woolies and Coles etc.
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Re: How big an impact will this have!

Postby RB » Tue May 14, 2013 1:15 pm

True. Sporting clubs should be last off.
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Re: How big an impact will this have!

Postby CENTURION » Tue May 14, 2013 3:18 pm

tipper wrote:so because you dont do do something, no one else can either? so we should all stop making sense as well then?

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Re: How big an impact will this have!

Postby SDK » Tue May 14, 2013 6:12 pm

Non profit sporting clubs should not be taxed anyway. Would the Government tax a church ? What is the difference ?
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Re: How big an impact will this have!

Postby Barto » Tue May 14, 2013 6:30 pm

Dogwatcher wrote:
RB wrote:It would be a shame if there were no better ways of obtaining money for grassroots football than to use pokies to suck money out of people in footy clubs. Either way, I think we can all agree that the Sanfl clubs need to find ways to reduce their reliance on poker machines, preferably to the point of not needing them at all.


I agree but I'd rather have the pokies in the hands of community clubs than the pokie barons - Woolies and Coles etc.



The way it should've been from day one. We wouldn't have community clubs on deaths door while hotels turned into mini casinos.

Anyway, what's even more concerning for Central's pokie operation is the axing of the baby bonus.
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Re: How big an impact will this have!

Postby topsywaldron » Tue May 14, 2013 6:36 pm

Who'd a thunk demography would have an impact on Centrals flag chances. ;)
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Re: How big an impact will this have!

Postby CENTURION » Tue May 14, 2013 6:56 pm

topsywaldron wrote:Who'd a thunk demography would have an impact on Centrals flag chances. ;)

It hasn't had anything to do with the 9 that I have witnessed!
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Re: How big an impact will this have!

Postby wild dog » Tue May 14, 2013 10:04 pm

topsywaldron wrote:Wasn't this article just another forum for Kris Grant to moan about how he's not very good at his job any more? Been a few of those recently.


No, Kris commented to get a moan out of you.
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Re: How big an impact will this have!

Postby LPH » Tue May 14, 2013 10:08 pm

SDK wrote:Non profit sporting clubs should not be taxed anyway. Would the Government tax a church ? What is the difference ?


Err... I contend that you might be drawing a slightly long bow comparing a local Church to a local Sporting Club.
Sure they are both Community Organisations but I think a Church probably gives more money to charity, rather than keeping it themselves.

As for the topic;
I hate the pokies personally - but I love a punt (horses, me).
If people want to spend their hard earned (baby bonus excepted) pumping dollar coins mindlessly through them, I would prefer to see them do that locally rather than @ Sky City & at least some revenue going to the Sporting Club, even if it is CDFC ;)
All the diatribe about Government imposing it's will upon people & removing the machines, reeks of a 'nanny' state :(
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Re: How big an impact will this have!

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Tue May 14, 2013 10:14 pm

LEH wrote:
Err... I contend that you might be drawing a slightly long bow comparing a local Church to a local Sporting Club.
Sure they are both Community Organisations but I think a Church probably gives more money to charity, rather than keeping it themselves.



LOL. Don't know about that.
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Re: How big an impact will this have!

Postby LPH » Tue May 14, 2013 10:18 pm

I did say Local...

I have been to Vatican City, so I know how rich the Catholic Church is 8)
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