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Re: Essendon 2013

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Wed May 08, 2013 2:41 pm

kickinit wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:Are vitamin c injections against the law?


no but "vitamin c injections" are

Do you mean in the sporting world?
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Re: Essendon 2013

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Wed May 08, 2013 2:42 pm

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Squids wrote:True..Mark McVeigh will have to explain why he said players only had vitamin C injections.

McVeigh doesnt have to be interviewed. He is retired so he wont be called upon


He will be interviewed.

Have just heard he has fled the country to Brazil.
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Re: Essendon 2013

Postby Squids » Wed May 08, 2013 2:43 pm

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Squids wrote:
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Squids wrote:True..Mark McVeigh will have to explain why he said players only had vitamin C injections.

McVeigh doesnt have to be interviewed. He is retired so he wont be called upon


He will be interviewed.

Have just heard he has fled the country to Brazil.


Wouldn't be surprised. Its going to get nasty when Dank and Robinson take everyone down with them.
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Re: Essendon 2013

Postby Jim05 » Wed May 08, 2013 2:45 pm

Squids wrote:
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Squids wrote:True..Mark McVeigh will have to explain why he said players only had vitamin C injections.

McVeigh doesnt have to be interviewed. He is retired so he wont be called upon


He will be interviewed.

He may well be interviewed but he doesnt have to co-operate. ASADA cant touch him.
Just like the Cronulla rugby players who are saying nothing ;)
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Re: Essendon 2013

Postby Jim05 » Wed May 08, 2013 2:48 pm

Squids wrote:Wouldn't be surprised. Its going to get nasty when Dank and Robinson take everyone down with them.

Dank perhaps but not Robinson.
I believe Robinson has only been stood aside until the investigations are over, if he is found innocent I think you will find he we still do some work for the club just with a bit less control
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Re: Essendon 2013

Postby Squids » Wed May 08, 2013 2:54 pm

Jim05 wrote:
Squids wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
Squids wrote:True..Mark McVeigh will have to explain why he said players only had vitamin C injections.

McVeigh doesnt have to be interviewed. He is retired so he wont be called upon


He will be interviewed.

He may well be interviewed but he doesnt have to co-operate. ASADA cant touch him.
Just like the Cronulla rugby players who are saying nothing ;)


What has he got to hide?
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Re: Essendon 2013

Postby Jim05 » Wed May 08, 2013 3:00 pm

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What has he got to hide?

Nothing but he isnt compelled to give evidence.
Same as Dank. ASADA has already stated that because Dank is not currently employed in a club he is not compelled either, they obviously would like him to but by law he cant be forced.
I think it would be wise for Dank and McVeigh to have their say.
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Re: Essendon 2013

Postby kickinit » Wed May 08, 2013 5:56 pm

Jim05 wrote:
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What has he got to hide?

Nothing but he isnt compelled to give evidence.
Same as Dank. ASADA has already stated that because Dank is not currently employed in a club he is not compelled either, they obviously would like him to but by law he cant be forced.
I think it would be wise for Dank and McVeigh to have their say.


if he doesn't though he would then get a automatic ban.
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Re: Essendon 2013

Postby Squids » Wed May 08, 2013 6:03 pm

If Essendon haven't done anything wrong why are they trying to find loopholes to get out of it?

Now its seems they are going to say the banned drug was for 'theraputic uses" for 30+ players....yeah right.
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Re: Essendon 2013

Postby Jim05 » Wed May 08, 2013 6:12 pm

kickinit wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
Squids wrote:
What has he got to hide?

Nothing but he isnt compelled to give evidence.
Same as Dank. ASADA has already stated that because Dank is not currently employed in a club he is not compelled either, they obviously would like him to but by law he cant be forced.
I think it would be wise for Dank and McVeigh to have their say.


if he doesn't though he would then get a automatic ban.

Banned from what, dont think he has any intention of working with sport again.
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Re: Essendon 2013

Postby kickinit » Wed May 08, 2013 7:38 pm

Jim05 wrote:
kickinit wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
Squids wrote:
What has he got to hide?

Nothing but he isnt compelled to give evidence.
Same as Dank. ASADA has already stated that because Dank is not currently employed in a club he is not compelled either, they obviously would like him to but by law he cant be forced.
I think it would be wise for Dank and McVeigh to have their say.


if he doesn't though he would then get a automatic ban.

Banned from what, dont think he has any intention of working with sport again.


don't think his intention matters, as I couldn't imagine anyone dumb enough to employ him. If there is evidence that he has done something wrong and doesn't front to ASADA they will give him a automatic ban.

I don't know how ASADA told the player they would be right when shane charter gave evidence today on what they where taking and how they got pass ASADA testing.
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Re: Essendon 2013

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Wed May 08, 2013 8:01 pm

kickinit wrote:I don't know how ASADA told the player they would be right when shane charter gave evidence today on what they where taking and how they got pass ASADA testing.


He only knows what Dank was given. Not what Essendon footballers were given. Credible witness too. Any other ex cons giving evidence?
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Re: Essendon 2013

Postby helicopterking » Wed May 08, 2013 8:10 pm

Didn't Shane Warne get banned for taking a supplement for weight loss? Game into disrepute (similar to Ben Cousins) should be the minimum punishment
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Re: Essendon 2013

Postby Turbo » Wed May 08, 2013 8:11 pm

More and more smoke leads to a raging inferno.
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Re: Essendon 2013

Postby Jim05 » Wed May 08, 2013 8:14 pm

helicopterking wrote:Didn't Shane Warne get banned for taking a supplement for weight loss? Game into disrepute (similar to Ben Cousins) should be the minimum punishment

And I think thats what will happen
$1m fine and loss of draft picks for 2 years
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Re: Essendon 2013

Postby Turbo » Wed May 08, 2013 8:18 pm

Jim05 wrote:
helicopterking wrote:Didn't Shane Warne get banned for taking a supplement for weight loss? Game into disrepute (similar to Ben Cousins) should be the minimum punishment

And I think thats what will happen
$1m fine and loss of draft picks for 2 years


Plus a few officials sacked??
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Re: Essendon 2013

Postby Jim05 » Wed May 08, 2013 8:23 pm

Turbo wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
helicopterking wrote:Didn't Shane Warne get banned for taking a supplement for weight loss? Game into disrepute (similar to Ben Cousins) should be the minimum punishment

And I think thats what will happen
$1m fine and loss of draft picks for 2 years


Plus a few officials sacked??

1 already has (Hamilton)
1 will soon (Corcoran)
1 potentially (Robson)
David Evans has brought the election forward 2 years and he could be voted out but like myself I think most members will vote him back in
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Re: Essendon 2013

Postby kickinit » Wed May 08, 2013 8:30 pm

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kickinit wrote:I don't know how ASADA told the player they would be right when shane charter gave evidence today on what they where taking and how they got pass ASADA testing.


He only knows what Dank was given. Not what Essendon footballers were given. Credible witness too. Any other ex cons giving evidence?


if he has rock hard evidence text emails what does being a ex con have to do with it? actually it makes essendon look pretty bad doing dealings with a ex con. I think essendon would be hoping that dank doesn't speak to asada, i'm sure he's the one with all the evidence to bring them down.
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Re: Essendon 2013

Postby kickinit » Wed May 08, 2013 8:31 pm

Jim05 wrote:
helicopterking wrote:Didn't Shane Warne get banned for taking a supplement for weight loss? Game into disrepute (similar to Ben Cousins) should be the minimum punishment

And I think thats what will happen
$1m fine and loss of draft picks for 2 years


both of those players where banned from the game. If it is found that the players have been doping then they will have no choice but to ban them from playing.
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Re: Essendon 2013

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Wed May 08, 2013 9:23 pm

kickinit wrote:
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kickinit wrote:I don't know how ASADA told the player they would be right when shane charter gave evidence today on what they where taking and how they got pass ASADA testing.


He only knows what Dank was given. Not what Essendon footballers were given. Credible witness too. Any other ex cons giving evidence?


if he has rock hard evidence text emails what does being a ex con have to do with it? actually it makes essendon look pretty bad doing dealings with a ex con. I think essendon would be hoping that dank doesn't speak to asada, i'm sure he's the one with all the evidence to bring them down.

Essendon didn't deal with Charter. Dank had dealings with Charter. Being an ex con says he is an unreliable person. Sorry I'm not buying into all the speculation, just going on what facts are out there.
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