Round 6 Eagles v South Post Match

[holden78]

Well it's not like we haven't banged on enough about Ron and his limitations!
It was always going to end in tears when South keep losing their better players because of the coaches' lack of man management skills.
People on here buying into Centre Circle Legend's party line dribble in the past can now be set straight

[JK]

Michael Doughty is well regarded by many/most in football circles, would they be any chance to get him?

WE wouldn't have enough money for any of the AFL players to return, so they could continue to live the life style they were accustomed to. (Kim Koster an exception)

You never know .. Francou, Bassett, Massie were all not long out of the AFL system

[holden78]

All things being equal, South would be crazy to move Fuller on before the end of the season, especially as South League Coach is a job with the same prospects as North Korean Opposition Leader

[Dutchy]

If Ronnie walked or got sacked Bamford is down there already so could step right in.

They could be worse off under Bamford? He managed to fall out with a number of players and coaches and did exactly what at the Magpies in terms of showing he could coach?

Im not endorsing him, just saying they have an immediate replacement if needed quickly.

[prowling panther]

Michael Doughty is well regarded by many/most in football circles, would they be any chance to get him?

WE wouldn't have enough money for any of the AFL players to return, so they could continue to live the life style they were accustomed to. (Kim Koster an exception)

You never know .. Francou, Bassett, Massie were all not long out of the AFL system

I and many of us thought that Dogga would return for a season or two, maybe his body couldnt put up with another pr-season

[LPH]

My understanding is that Fuller signed a 5 year deal? Is that right?
If so, South would need to 'pay him out' of his contract & then appoint another coach.
Is this his 3rd or 4th year?
To sack him would cost them a bit - not only financially.
Who would want the job apart from a 'local' home grown 'Southee'?

In terms of players (from a purely local point of view, as I live down here) - I think one of the problems is there are so many other clubs down here to play footy for.
Young blokes with talent, get paid pretty well playing in the SFL or GSFL - without the huge training & non-social commitment that an SANFL Club expects.
As a result, many good quality footballers, in their zone, are not playing for South in U/18s & Reserves & preferring an 'easy buck' & less time/training commitments with local SFL & GSFL Clubs.

Any comments?

[Jim05]

My understanding is that Fuller signed a 5 year deal? Is that right?
If so, South would need to 'pay him out' of his contract & then appoint another coach.
Is this his 3rd or 4th year?
To sack him would cost them a bit - not only financially.
Who would want the job apart from a 'local' home grown 'Southee'?

In terms of players (from a purely local point of view, as I live down here) - I think one of the problems is there are so many other clubs down here to play footy for.
Young blokes with talent, get paid pretty well playing in the SFL or GSFL - without the huge training & non-social commitment that an SANFL Club expects.
As a result, many good quality footballers, in their zone, are not playing for South in U/18s & Reserves & preferring an 'easy buck' & less time/training commitments with local SFL & GSFL Clubs.

Any comments?

Dont think South are any differant to any other club in that regards.
Its no secret that Ammos and country footy has hurt the SANFL but I cant blame players for taking the money on offer, most have families. No secret that SANFL players are paid a pittance for the time they are expected to give up each week. If you are only playing Ressies and getting $100 per week and having to train 5 days a week I know id rather take the $500+ and 1-2 nights training.

[CENTURION]

why not try something radical & stick with him? A vote of long term confidence might bring solidarity & more committment from the players, in turn inspiring them to step up a notch. South isn't an easy fix & if they keep going the way they have been, no-one will feel safe &, in turn, won't be able to perform their duties to the best of their abilities. If there are players there that the board think are worth playing league, sign them all up for long contracts, at least 3 years & accept that South is broken & will only be fixed this way. They've tried everything else & it ain't working, so what do they have to lose? No point in walking into a nice plush clubrooms with no trophies & nothing to show for all the money. People would rather be broke but happy. We did it at Centrals, you can do it too.

[CENTURION]

We lose players to the ammos and country footy as well, every team does, that isn't an excuse that can be used, in fact, if you're looking for excuses, you won't create a result.

[RB]

Good to have a percentage booster to compensate for the loss to West. Bit of a cliché, but it is hard to take much out of a training run like yesterday. Good however to see a couple of guys like Scotty Lewis get played back into form. I tell you what, if Byron Sumner doesn't get a guernsey for the state team there's something wrong. He has been killing it. The best avoider (evader?) of tackles in the league IMO.

[Mickyj]

why not try something radical & stick with him? A vote of long term confidence might bring solidarity & more committment from the players, in turn inspiring them to step up a notch. South isn't an easy fix & if they keep going the way they have been, no-one will feel safe &, in turn, won't be able to perform their duties to the best of their abilities. If there are players there that the board think are worth playing league, sign them all up for long contracts, at least 3 years & accept that South is broken & will only be fixed this way. They've tried everything else & it ain't working, so what do they have to lose? No point in walking into a nice plush clubrooms with no trophies & nothing to show for all the money. People would rather be broke but happy. We did it at Centrals, you can do it too.

From my point of view and its just mine !!
SANFL footy passed Ron Fullers coaching style a few years back .
2006 was the last time it was effective and even then he was ignoring his assistants (their fathers told me this one day at Woodville after they had moved to Sturt).
He worked well at South to start with because he was new and South hadn't had a coach like him in years .
Going to Victoria paying reported large sums to play sign on fees and brand new cars works for a short fix .And I heard about those a few years back from a souths seconds player who got in trouble for telling me (you know who he was Bunton hes left your club and the state now) Once they cross the border see Noarlunga they only want to stay until their contracts are done . Like Ainger they move elsewhere !!
As others have said South need to find some SANFL standard players from within SA and a coach who has good player management skills.

Seen Rons problems at Woodville and players not wanting to play for him.
Leave him until the end of the year and pay him out for his last year . Hopefully he didn't sign a contract that gives him another year if he wants to stay on like he did at Woodville . Many fans members wanted to lynch people when that was found out !!
That's my 2 cents worth

[Mickyj]

Good to have a percentage booster to compensate for the loss to West. Bit of a cliché, but it is hard to take much out of a training run like yesterday. Good however to see a couple of guys like Scotty Lewis get played back into form. I tell you what, if Byron Sumner doesn't get a guernsey for the state team there's something wrong. He has been killing it. The best avoider (evader?) of tackles in the league IMO.

Agree Lewis ,Day, Jarrad and Cully all found form against South .
And Sumner should play for the state

[Mickyj]

And on the Eagles has anyone noticed a difference since Bruce and Norman have joined the coaching staff ?

[JamesH]

I dont thibk South supporters should get too down in the dumps
They have money in the bank which means unlike many clubs they will survive.

Is the coach the problem?
Is the talent the problem?
Is losing players to the SFL rather than fight for a league spot a problem?
Is the fact Noarlunga Oval is a long way from the city and Adelaide's 'trendy' living areas part of the problem (keep in mind would also apply to Central)?

If the club has a strategy it should probably stick to it. Fuller is from a winning set up..... there is talent on the list so part of the problem must be the long term rut the club has been in.

[prowling panther]

Andrew Bruce has a quality about him.

[on the rails]

I dont thibk South supporters should get too down in the dumps
They have money in the bank which means unlike many clubs they will survive.

They might win some games and play finals if the comp gets smaller because other clubs fall over financially! They should make the 5 in a 5 team comp although on present form I will back the bye!

[Mickyj]

I dont thibk South supporters should get too down in the dumps
They have money in the bank which means unlike many clubs they will survive.

They might win some games and play finals if the comp gets smaller because other clubs fall over financially! They should make the 5 in a 5 team comp although on present form I will back the bye!

love it

[therisingblues]

Is the problem the fact that Noarlunga is on top of a windy hill which gets unusually cold in winter and is miles from the city? It has alot if things against it IMO. it's also real weird how South have a much worse home record vs away in recent times. Almost as though the players are sick of the place.
Been thinking this for a while now, not meaning to take a cheap shot or anything.

[westcoastpanther]

I dont thibk South supporters should get too down in the dumps
They have money in the bank which means unlike many clubs they will survive.

They might win some games and play finals if the comp gets smaller because other clubs fall over financially! They should make the 5 in a 5 team comp although on present form I will back the bye!

love it

Perhaps we should jump into bed with the Bays and see how that goes.....quitters

[Mickyj]

I dont thibk South supporters should get too down in the dumps
They have money in the bank which means unlike many clubs they will survive.

They might win some games and play finals if the comp gets smaller because other clubs fall over financially! They should make the 5 in a 5 team comp although on present form I will back the bye!

love it

Perhaps we should jump into bed with the Bays and see how that goes.....quitters

you'd get more people to watch your games