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[woodublieve12]

I watched it again last night on IQ to give it a chance but dance offs, tug of wars and a lack of Brock, taker, Hunter, Y2J and anything significant meant it really was nothing special

and people wonder why they bring back older stars... the current roster with the exception of a few aren't big draws...

[wristwatcher]

not the best raw. but the rhodes vs orton match was awesome... Even the kofi vs ziggler match was a beauty...


thought this was funny.

That is funny
RKO v Little dream was a great match but i hated the finish as if he is going for his whatever kick he would not dive head first into an RKO. The physics of the finish bemused me.
Fast forwarded Kofi as he sh#ts me. Maybe should have a closer look at it. Enjoyed Big Ass dropping him though

[woodublieve12]

not the best raw. but the rhodes vs orton match was awesome... Even the kofi vs ziggler match was a beauty...


thought this was funny.

That is funny
RKO v Little dream was a great match but i hated the finish as if he is going for his whatever kick he would not dive head first into an RKO. The physics of the finish bemused me.
Fast forwarded Kofi as he sh#ts me. Maybe should have a closer look at it. Enjoyed Big Ass dropping him though

i thought the same with the rko. not a good finish. I really don't Kofi, not a big fan, but it was a decent match. I think wwe have no idea what to do with kofi, they seem to put a ic or usa title on him evfery few months and really don't put him in any decent story lines...

Cesaro i like and has massive amount of potential, but he may be heading down Alex Rileys path. Hopefully not. On riley i thought he showed a massive amount of potential...

[wristwatcher]

Watched ARi pin the Miz clean in Adelaide last year albeit a house show and then he went back and must of played with Stefs cans or something coz he was unbooked for sucess real real fast.

[woodublieve12]

Watched ARi pin the Miz clean in Adelaide last year albeit a house show and then he went back and must of played with Stefs cans or something coz he was unbooked for sucess real real fast.

Reports suggest that a backstage altercation with John Cena had something to do with it, but other factors lead me to believe otherwise.

According to PWInsider.com, Cena was joking around and making run of Riley backstage in front of some other wrestlers last year. Riley reportedly reacted in a hostile way, which was viewed as a breaking of the code between wrestlers. This, in turn, is believed to have pushed him down the card and led to his jobber status.

I'm not going to dispute that such an incident took place, as it is entirely possible that it did, but I don't feel like Riley's decline had anything to do with a disagreement with Cena.

Since Cena is the company's top guy, it is easy to pawn off Riley's fall from grace on him, but the pieces don't seem to fit together.

Riley was at his high point in terms of popularity last May after he turned face and feuded with his former mentor, The Miz. There is no doubt that he was red hot, as he was involved in some tag matches with Cena as his partner and was put over Miz, who was coming off a WWE Championship reign, on a couple of occasions.

It then looked like Riley might win the United States Championship as he entered into a feud with Dolph Ziggler. He was involved in a Fatal Four Way match at Night of Champions for the title, and while he didn't come out on top, he still figured to have a bright future.

Not long after that, Riley essentially disappeared from WWE programming and has been utilized sporadically ever since.

While dirt sheets would have you believe that was a direct result of an altercation with Cena, he actually suffered a hip injury in October of last year that kept him out for quite some time. It limited him in the ring, and probably led to him being phased out from a feud with Ziggler.

In addition to that, sloppy in-ring work most likely contributed to his demotion. It was clear that Riley was too green as a wrestler ever since his NXT debut, and there were plenty examples of it. Riley accidentally eliminated himself from the 2011 Royal Rumble, which led to a change in the way Cena was eliminated from the match.

Riley still got his push well after that, but it was part of the case built against him. Riley's most egregious error came in the midst of his push against Jack Swagger on an episode of RAW. Swagger lifted him and attempted his signature gutwrench powerbomb, but Riley sandbagged him and Swagger had to struggle in order to get him up.

Those types of mistakes can't be tolerated by a top star, and that had way more to do with Riley's burial than anything else in my estimation.

Saying that Cena used his backstage pull to hurt Riley is a much juicier story, but tangible evidence suggests that an injury and sloppy wrestling were the true culprits.

[Strawb]

Not selling moves has worked for Kevin Nash

[dee man]

while i enjoyed the match with undertaker the other night his destruction by shield deeply saddened me
to see a great star of the past,now past his prime to be smashed and disrespected like that really saddened what was a good match
to also have these guys running around is one thing which is very appealing but to destroy a legend like that does nothing to enhance his legacy with the younger viewers
the fact that they have made Kane soft their are no real hard men left and no one to help
dx coming in when it was dark does nothing for the fans who dont see it so dont know

[Il Duce]

I was fine with it, they wanted taker to be able to have his usual 10 month brake and they are putting the shield over also taker would of had no problem putting the young stars over, so dont see the issue here.

[woodublieve12]

[woodublieve12]

[Cash 123]

while i enjoyed the match with undertaker the other night his destruction by shield deeply saddened me
to see a great star of the past,now past his prime to be smashed and disrespected like that really saddened what was a good match
to also have these guys running around is one thing which is very appealing but to destroy a legend like that does nothing to enhance his legacy with the younger viewers
the fact that they have made Kane soft their are no real hard men left and no one to help
dx coming in when it was dark does nothing for the fans who dont see it so dont know

its not 1997 anymore Deeman wake up

[woodublieve12]

while i enjoyed the match with undertaker the other night his destruction by shield deeply saddened me
to see a great star of the past,now past his prime to be smashed and disrespected like that really saddened what was a good match
to also have these guys running around is one thing which is very appealing but to destroy a legend like that does nothing to enhance his legacy with the younger viewers
the fact that they have made Kane soft their are no real hard men left and no one to help
dx coming in when it was dark does nothing for the fans who dont see it so dont know

its not 1997 anymore Deeman wake up

he's 21-0 at wrestlemania. I reckon his legacy is pretty safe...
He's just putting young talent over.

[dee man]

YES ARE ALRIGHT,
he is known through out the business as one of the true professionals that always put the business first
thats not what im unhappy about
the fact that maybe yes as i get so much older in a world dominated by the younger i like to see the older people treated with more respect
i know its just entertainment but im probably more upset with the fact that what they showed and the way they did it shows to many that disrespect
by the way i actually like the story line of the shield,probably the best thing wwe have done for a while but i would have loved to see them do that to brock lesnar or mark henry and then do the push
as for you guys that laugh this off,just wait to your my age and see how you then feel
power to the old

[Mic]

Yes, I will laugh that off. I don't think pro wrestling is meant to symbolise society. Undertaker may not even have another match until Wrestlemania 30, whereas The Shield will likely be part of every PPV, TV taping and house show for the rest of the year. Undertaker would know very well that this is the best thing to do for business, giving The Shield a bigger push/focus without doing any damage to his 'legacy'.

[wristwatcher]

What would The Iron Shiek say??

[dee man]

with kane also getting smashed by the shield is this the start of a huge push from someone outside to even the odds
will we see the son come in and help dad and uncle
will we see a great ex wrestler return to help

[helicopterking]

Return of DX. That would be awesome.. but unlikely

[woodublieve12]

Return of DX. That would be awesome.. but unlikely

you reckon??? Only if the New age outlaws are involved i reckon, but please don't let chyna return

love to see the dudleys return... "DEVON!!!!!!! GET THE TABLES!!!".... WAAAASSSSSSSSUPPPP

[MightyEagles]

Return of DX. That would be awesome.. but unlikely

you reckon??? Only if the New age outlaws are involved i reckon, but please don't let chyna return

love to see the dudleys return... "DEVON!!!!!!! GET THE TABLES!!!".... WAAAASSSSSSSSUPPPP

Only way that will happen is if they pull up stumps from TNA.

[woodublieve12]

Return of DX. That would be awesome.. but unlikely

you reckon??? Only if the New age outlaws are involved i reckon, but please don't let chyna return

love to see the dudleys return... "DEVON!!!!!!! GET THE TABLES!!!".... WAAAASSSSSSSSUPPPP

Only way that will happen is if they pull up stumps from TNA.

yeah i know... would be cool though...