SAAFL Division 1 2013

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Who will win the 2013 premiership?

Adelaide Uni
6
5%
Broadview
3
3%
Gaza
5
5%
Goodwood Saints
16
14%
Henley
26
23%
PHOS Camden
3
3%
Rostrevor OC
6
5%
St Peter OC
3
3%
Salisbury North
38
34%
Tea Tree Gully
5
5%
 
Total votes : 111

Re: SAAFL Division 1 2013

Postby marbles » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:21 pm

:D the league is great, facilitates great amateur football

but its a little plain & stale these days wouldnt most agree??

blokes would rather drive up to 200kms on a saturday morning, then back again to load up their pockets, instead of driving 10 minutes down the road to play for the pride of their local club

theres not much keeping this talent at home is there?

i simply call for a revamp, to bring excitement for ALL clubs, and not just keep our top Div 1 clubs in cotton wool, give every club a chance to rise

for example if hope valley finish top 4 this year they go up, then again and again, they are suddenly a Div 1 football club, how exciting for the population in that suburbia

otherwise the SAAFL is starting to become a stepping stone for players to make money in the country leagues, how could "you" rejuvenate a culture that entices an individual to say "no way man, im playing SAAFL super league and for the pride of my local club, who could be in Div 1 in a couple years, skip the country cash"

ie: SAFA
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Re: SAAFL Division 1 2013

Postby Grahaml » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:27 pm

4 up 4 down works nicely if you like the idea of the 7th placed div 1 side playing against the 4th placed div 3 side in div 2 the year after.

Anyone who is interested, that would Broadview and PNU facing off.
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Re: SAAFL Division 1 2013

Postby Quarterman » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:28 pm

marbles wrote::D the league is great, facilitates great amateur football

but its a little plain & stale these days wouldnt most agree??

blokes would rather drive up to 200kms on a saturday morning, then back again to load up their pockets, instead of driving 10 minutes down the road to play for the pride of their local club

theres not much keeping this talent at home is there?

i simply call for a revamp, to bring excitement for ALL clubs, and not just keep our top Div 1 clubs in cotton wool, give every club a chance to rise

for example if hope valley finish top 4 this year they go up, then again and again, they are suddenly a Div 1 football club, how exciting for the population in that suburbia

otherwise the SAAFL is starting to become a stepping stone for players to make money in the country leagues, how could "you" rejuvenate a culture that entices an individual to say "no way man, im playing SAAFL super league and for the pride of my local club, who could be in Div 1 in a couple years, skip the country cash"

ie: SAFA


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Re: SAAFL Division 1 2013

Postby Cohiba » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:55 pm

marbles wrote::D the league is great, facilitates great amateur football

but its a little plain & stale these days wouldnt most agree??

blokes would rather drive up to 200kms on a saturday morning, then back again to load up their pockets, instead of driving 10 minutes down the road to play for the pride of their local club

theres not much keeping this talent at home is there?

i simply call for a revamp, to bring excitement for ALL clubs, and not just keep our top Div 1 clubs in cotton wool, give every club a chance to rise

for example if hope valley finish top 4 this year they go up, then again and again, they are suddenly a Div 1 football club, how exciting for the population in that suburbia

otherwise the SAAFL is starting to become a stepping stone for players to make money in the country leagues, how could "you" rejuvenate a culture that entices an individual to say "no way man, im playing SAAFL super league and for the pride of my local club, who could be in Div 1 in a couple years, skip the country cash"

ie: SAFA



1. Give me names of all those who agree the league is plain and stale.
2. Not all blokes have to travel that far for the money.....plenty in the local comp.
3. It's not so there is a mass migration taking up residence in regional areas. Most get back to the Ramsgate after match......
4. Tell us "Che Marbles" which Clubs aren't excited enough and will send them to the tribunal....names please
5. Every club now has a chance to rise.. e.g.Woodville Sth went from Div 6 to Div 1 under the current system.. They were really excited...
6. Hope Valley will be happy not to be relegated.....let alone promoted
7. As to answering your last comments re "no way man"""...... I'll have some of what your smokin'........ :weedman: :rolleyes:

That aside...yeah....its a good comp......

Hope this clears it up for you......
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Re: SAAFL Division 1 2013

Postby marbles » Wed May 01, 2013 10:17 am

firstly considering youve decided to enhance profile names when reffering to your comments i will now on refer to you as "our royal cuban almighty lion king"

so "our royal cuban almighty lion king" my concept is to enhance equalization for all clubs across the league.

if your not a contender in your division, then get out and be a contender in the division below. Lets reward clubs who are busting their balls on & off the field and give them a go for they are a proven contender - let them rise

a club like PNU has fallen from Div 1 to Div 3 so quickly cos it was so bloody hard to get to div 1 in the first place

give clubs more hope of evolution, and players might hang around and play for the pride of their jumper

instead we rank clubs, we label them, as what is the difference between in the off-field efforts of a Brama Lodge compared to a Gaza.... sweet f-all... but because of the labels upon the 2, the Brahma Lodge is stuck down on the scrap heap for the next 10 years, they will attract limited sponsorship and talented players, where as a div 1 example team takes all the lime light

lets bring all clubs to the dance floor
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Re: SAAFL Division 1 2013

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed May 01, 2013 10:41 am

If it isn't broken, it doesn't need fixing.
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Re: SAAFL Division 1 2013

Postby Cash 123 » Wed May 01, 2013 10:48 am

marbles wrote:firstly considering youve decided to enhance profile names when reffering to your comments i will now on refer to you as "our royal cuban almighty lion king"

so "our royal cuban almighty lion king" my concept is to enhance equalization for all clubs across the league.

if your not a contender in your division, then get out and be a contender in the division below. Lets reward clubs who are busting their balls on & off the field and give them a go for they are a proven contender - let them rise
a club like PNU has fallen from Div 1 to Div 3 so quickly cos it was so bloody hard to get to div 1 in the first place

give clubs more hope of evolution, and players might hang around and play for the pride of their jumper

instead we rank clubs, we label them, as what is the difference between in the off-field efforts of a Brama Lodge compared to a Gaza.... sweet f-all... but because of the labels upon the 2, the Brahma Lodge is stuck down on the scrap heap for the next 10 years, they will attract limited sponsorship and talented players, where as a div 1 example team takes all the lime light

lets bring all clubs to the dance floor


so does a club who finishes 4th really warrant to gome up a divison? no they don't. The system that is in place with 2 teams up n down from each division works perfectly at the moment and ensures the majority of the competitions are equal and teams are playing at the correct grade that there ability warrants
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Re: SAAFL Division 1 2013

Postby Cohiba » Wed May 01, 2013 5:45 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:If it isn't broken, it doesn't need fixing.


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Re: SAAFL Division 1 2013

Postby Cohiba » Wed May 01, 2013 5:47 pm

marbles wrote:firstly considering youve decided to enhance profile names when reffering to your comments i will now on refer to you as "our royal cuban almighty lion king"

so "our royal cuban almighty lion king" my concept is to enhance equalization for all clubs across the league.

if your not a contender in your division, then get out and be a contender in the division below. Lets reward clubs who are busting their balls on & off the field and give them a go for they are a proven contender - let them rise

a club like PNU has fallen from Div 1 to Div 3 so quickly cos it was so bloody hard to get to div 1 in the first place

give clubs more hope of evolution, and players might hang around and play for the pride of their jumper

instead we rank clubs, we label them, as what is the difference between in the off-field efforts of a Brama Lodge compared to a Gaza.... sweet f-all... but because of the labels upon the 2, the Brahma Lodge is stuck down on the scrap heap for the next 10 years, they will attract limited sponsorship and talented players, where as a div 1 example team takes all the lime light

lets bring all clubs to the dance floor



Were poles apart on this issue marbles....... for me here endeth the lesson.....
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Re: SAAFL Division 1 2013

Postby absolutebath » Wed May 01, 2013 6:09 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:If it isn't broken, it doesn't need fixing.
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Re: SAAFL Division 1 2013

Postby marbles » Wed May 01, 2013 6:13 pm

Cohiba wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:If it isn't broken, it doesn't need fixing.


:supz:


but it is broken, all the best players are leaving to country, everyones whinging about the points system, the league holds night games and nobody goes, this football party is boring cos we all keep the top 12 clubs in cotton wool, and the rest of the clubs are just the dudds on the scrap heap
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Re: SAAFL Division 1 2013

Postby Fricky » Wed May 01, 2013 7:40 pm

The best, and sometimes not best, players are leaving to the country because they are getting paid a heap more than the city clubs can offer.
Not many go to night games because there's more entertaining things to do on a Friday/Saturday night in Adelaide.
And people are complaining about the points system because it restricts the amount of recruiting a club can do. It can also mean you don't put the best 22 players in the A grade due to the points a player is worth

For me, I think the relegation system works well. Its up to the clubs to make your place enticing enough for players to stay so you can work up the divisions
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Re: SAAFL Division 1 2013

Postby Quarterman » Wed May 01, 2013 8:46 pm

marbles wrote:
Cohiba wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:If it isn't broken, it doesn't need fixing.


:supz:


but it is broken, all the best players are leaving to country, everyones whinging about the points system, the league holds night games and nobody goes, this football party is boring cos we all keep the top 12 clubs in cotton wool, and the rest of the clubs are just the dudds on the scrap heap


Elvis has entered the building........
The competition is broken
all the best players are leaving
everyones whinging about the points system
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Re: SAAFL Division 1 2013

Postby Rat Catcher » Wed May 01, 2013 9:45 pm

marbles wrote:firstly considering youve decided to enhance profile names when reffering to your comments i will now on refer to you as "our royal cuban almighty lion king"

so "our royal cuban almighty lion king" my concept is to enhance equalization for all clubs across the league.

if your not a contender in your division, then get out and be a contender in the division below. Lets reward clubs who are busting their balls on & off the field and give them a go for they are a proven contender - let them rise

a club like PNU has fallen from Div 1 to Div 3 so quickly cos it was so bloody hard to get to div 1 in the first place

give clubs more hope of evolution, and players might hang around and play for the pride of their jumper

instead we rank clubs, we label them, as what is the difference between in the off-field efforts of a Brama Lodge compared to a Gaza.... sweet f-all... but because of the labels upon the 2, the Brahma Lodge is stuck down on the scrap heap for the next 10 years, they will attract limited sponsorship and talented players, where as a div 1 example team takes all the lime light

lets bring all clubs to the dance floor
I like your thinking Marbles but there's one roadblock to get over no matter how good your idea.
Didn't one of the port clubs recently propose at a delegates meeting to go the other way with only 1 up and 1 down instead of 2 and 2 to promote greater stability and was only narrowly defeated.

I couldn't see them actually going the other way.
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Re: SAAFL Division 1 2013

Postby Cohiba » Wed May 01, 2013 10:20 pm

Rat Catcher wrote:
marbles wrote:firstly considering youve decided to enhance profile names when reffering to your comments i will now on refer to you as "our royal cuban almighty lion king"

so "our royal cuban almighty lion king" my concept is to enhance equalization for all clubs across the league.

if your not a contender in your division, then get out and be a contender in the division below. Lets reward clubs who are busting their balls on & off the field and give them a go for they are a proven contender - let them rise

a club like PNU has fallen from Div 1 to Div 3 so quickly cos it was so bloody hard to get to div 1 in the first place

give clubs more hope of evolution, and players might hang around and play for the pride of their jumper

instead we rank clubs, we label them, as what is the difference between in the off-field efforts of a Brama Lodge compared to a Gaza.... sweet f-all... but because of the labels upon the 2, the Brahma Lodge is stuck down on the scrap heap for the next 10 years, they will attract limited sponsorship and talented players, where as a div 1 example team takes all the lime light

lets bring all clubs to the dance floor
I like your thinking Marbles but there's one roadblock to get over no matter how good your idea.
Didn't one of the port clubs recently propose at a delegates meeting to go the other way with only 1 up and 1 down instead of 2 and 2 to promote greater stability and was only narrowly defeated.

I couldn't see them actually going the other way.


Well for his sake perhaps we shouldn't let reality get in the way of a good story..... ;)
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Re: SAAFL Division 1 2013

Postby marbles » Wed May 01, 2013 10:23 pm

Yeah not for a moment do I believe such a radical concept would actually be implemented.

Its just a blueprint from outside of the square that conservatives find difficult to comprehend

Maybe if malcolm blight suggested it would be put in place Immediately :D
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Re: SAAFL Division 1 2013

Postby Yank Man » Wed May 01, 2013 10:54 pm

marbles wrote:Yeah not for a moment do I believe such a radical concept would actually be implemented.

Its just a blueprint from outside of the square that conservatives find difficult to comprehend

Maybe if malcolm blight suggested it would be put in place Immediately :D



Marbles my old mate, it ain't broken. Facts are country clubs struggle to get locals so they chase what they can to be competitive. Yes, they have budgets, but can't afford the 'best' Amatuers. Two up and two down is still the best scenario and losing players is a club thing, not a money thing. If you have the right culture in place nobody goes anywhere. For what it's worth I watched Harvey on Saturday and it amazes me anybody would want to pay him. I am sure for him it is about a new challenge and not about $$$$$$. Maybe having been shoved back in the 2's because of Henley's quality saw him look elsewhere. Iljecson also looks to be past his best too, but they both add to a team looking to improve. :)
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Re: SAAFL Division 1 2013

Postby marbles » Wed May 01, 2013 11:43 pm

Yankman keep a hush mate, the plan is to get mitchell park to div1 doubly quicker geeze, dont bring it all to ruins now, after all we've contrived to get to this point

8)

um dennis iljesen (poor spelling) made his mark in his prime in 2004 for the sharks agrade. Thats what 8 seasons ago? The old boy just havin a kickncatch im sure these days

Harvs is harvs, and one of my premiership medals is thanks to him. Am surprised it took a club 100kms away to realise his talents
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Re: SAAFL Division 1 2013

Postby Cohiba » Thu May 02, 2013 12:40 am

marbles wrote:Yankman keep a hush mate, the plan is to get mitchell park to div1 doubly quicker geeze, dont bring it all to ruins now, after all we've contrived to get to this point


With respect I think Mitchell Park will think its had a winning season if doesn't get relegated...... Division 1!!!!! Pleasant dreams laddie.... :roll:
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Re: SAAFL Division 1 2013

Postby citycoaster17 » Thu May 02, 2013 8:48 am

marbles wrote::D the league is great, facilitates great amateur football

but its a little plain & stale these days wouldnt most agree??

blokes would rather drive up to 200kms on a saturday morning, then back again to load up their pockets, instead of driving 10 minutes down the road to play for the pride of their local club

theres not much keeping this talent at home is there?

i simply call for a revamp, to bring excitement for ALL clubs, and not just keep our top Div 1 clubs in cotton wool, give every club a chance to rise

for example if hope valley finish top 4 this year they go up, then again and again, they are suddenly a Div 1 football club, how exciting for the population in that suburbia

otherwise the SAAFL is starting to become a stepping stone for players to make money in the country leagues, how could "you" rejuvenate a culture that entices an individual to say "no way man, im playing SAAFL super league and for the pride of my local club, who could be in Div 1 in a couple years, skip the country cash"

ie: SAFA



I think what's "stale" with the saafl, has a lot to do with the atmosphere. Yeah, quit a few guys head to play country football for the extra $$, and country clubs will fork out the cash because they don't have enough locals to fill a side. But have you been to a country game of footy lately, where every week, Juniors and Seniors play on the same ground, there are cars parked all around the oval. The atmosphere is so much better than SAAFL IMO
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