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Re: 2013 Formula 1 World Championship

Postby purch » Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:29 pm

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Sebastian Vettel would be a nobody without Red Bull...and now he pays them back by insulting the team's (weak) hierarchy.


Well that's utter bullshit and you know it. IF you truly believe that, then what does it say about Webber?


No it isn't utter bullshit.

Did you know that Vettel came through the junior ranks under the Red Bull junior driver program (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmut_Marko).

Without this backing it's quite possible that he might have never driven an F1 race!
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Re: 2013 Formula 1 World Championship

Postby purch » Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:34 pm

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test wrote:If I was Vettel I would of done the same thing. It's not a team sport, your there to win races, and 3 world championships says he's a better driver. Why on earth would he give up a win so Webber can cruise to a victory??? Webber has always been second fiddle to him, there no shame in that either by the way, so cop it on the chin.


Complete BS. It IS a team sport. There is a Constructors Title too...where do you think all the $$ come from? :roll:

Sebastian Vettel would be a nobody without Red Bull...and now he pays them back by insulting the team's (weak) hierarchy.

The outrage created by Vettel has given Red Bull the biggest publicity squirt imagineable, hence I suspect they don't really care


True, but I'm not sure it's the publicity they really wanted...there's been calls to boycott RB products on blogs, statements about weak leadership at Red Bull and back-stabbing/lunch-cutting, public condemnation of Vettel's actions by two 3x World Champions etc. etc.

Not the types of things that Mateschitz would want his company associated with I'm guessing...
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Re: 2013 Formula 1 World Championship

Postby purch » Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:53 pm

The Sleeping Giant wrote:Such a team sport that they don't speak to each other, don't share information, have separate engineers. Sometimes the only thing they have in common is the same colours on their cars.


A huge slice of the $$ required for development comes from points earned in the Constructors title. They are a team in the sense that the best possible result for BOTH drivers leads to $$ for the future.

The Sleeping Giant wrote:Like I said earlier, nice guys finish 2nd.


It's said that outside the car Seb is one of the nicest guys you could hope to meet (see my earlier post and quote). Many people come across as nice, and most of them really are...only a few turn out to be lunch-cutters, even less openly support such devious and deceitful behaviour. But by all means, keep on enjoying deceit if you thing it serves a purpose. True champions can also exhibit humility.

The Sleeping Giant wrote:I'm sure Vettel will let Webber have a couple of consolation wins at some stage.


I doubt such an effort to stage a result in future will satisfy Webber. I strongly believe that he would not like to win like that after what's happened.

The Sleeping Giant wrote:Why didn't Webber turn the wick up on his car and hold his position if he was just as quick, instead of allowing Vettel to pass?


He most likely did, but we will probably never know, at least not until Mark's book is published :) Problem is that by that stage Vettel was already within DRS range after RBR tried to switch their drivers around at the final stop, failing dismally.

Actually it was a bizarre decision to pit Vettel first. He ran his last stint on the mediums, whereas Mark took on hard tyres. Logic says that Mark should have pitted first because he was getting the more durable rubber. Plus, historically RBR have always pitted the lead driver first to avoid situations like this...
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Re: 2013 Formula 1 World Championship

Postby Dog_ger » Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:44 am

You would have to say "Vettel is the BEST in current times".

NO BULL. :D RED BULL. :D :partyman:
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Re: 2013 Formula 1 World Championship

Postby Bully » Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:02 am

interesting if vettel pulls over in the next race, if leading webber to allow him to win, and if webber takes it.
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Re: 2013 Formula 1 World Championship

Postby RustyCage » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:01 pm

Bully wrote:interesting if vettel pulls over in the next race, if leading webber to allow him to win, and if webber takes it.


yeah it will be interesting to see how the next few races pan out, Vettel is definitely copping it from all directions at the minute, will be interesting to see what he does to try to repair his image
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Re: 2013 Formula 1 World Championship

Postby tigermad » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:20 pm

Dont think Webber would take a charity win ? and as for Seb, he has lost all respect in the f1 world, and will be remembered only for his disrespect of team orders !!!
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Re: 2013 Formula 1 World Championship

Postby The Apostle » Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:04 am

It's not the first dog act by a German in F1 and it won't be the last...

Bring on China!
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Re: 2013 Formula 1 World Championship

Postby purch » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:28 am

The Apostle wrote:It's not the first dog act by a German in F1 and it won't be the last...

Bring on China!



China can't come quick enough!! :)
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Re: 2013 Formula 1 World Championship

Postby The Apostle » Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:58 pm

purch wrote:
The Apostle wrote:It's not the first dog act by a German in F1 and it won't be the last...

Bring on China!

China can't come quick enough!! :)

I reckon there'll be a few more people tuning in to watch this particular race than usual...
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Re: 2013 Formula 1 World Championship

Postby RustyCage » Mon Apr 08, 2013 4:29 pm

finally back racing this weekend
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Re: 2013 Formula 1 World Championship

Postby purch » Fri Apr 12, 2013 6:02 pm

Webber quicker than Vettel in both Friday practice sessions.

Ricciardo almost a second quicker than teammate Vergne in FP2
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Re: 2013 Formula 1 World Championship

Postby The Apostle » Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:49 pm

HAMILTON!!! :heart: :heart: :heart:

Oh dear, Mark Webber!

Results: http://www.formula1.com/results/season/2013/895/7202/
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Re: 2013 Formula 1 World Championship

Postby purch » Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:54 am

The Apostle wrote:HAMILTON!!! :heart: :heart: :heart:

Oh dear, Mark Webber!

Results: http://www.formula1.com/results/season/2013/895/7202/


Well if RBR are trying to put out the conspiracy theorist flames over Vettel v Webber treatment they just scored an own goal.

Great performance from Dan Ricciardo though. I had a feeling that STR had made some improvements to the car on Friday, but not by that much! Go Dan!
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Re: 2013 Formula 1 World Championship

Postby RustyCage » Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:49 pm

Webber starting from the pit lane
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Re: 2013 Formula 1 World Championship

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Re: 2013 Formula 1 World Championship

Postby The Apostle » Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:54 pm

Just over 1h:30m to go.

Weather over there is: 11'C/23'C and sunny.
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Re: 2013 Formula 1 World Championship

Postby The Apostle » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:08 pm

Webber out!
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Re: 2013 Formula 1 World Championship

Postby Jim05 » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:25 pm

The Apostle wrote:Webber out!

Lost a wheel on the same corner he ran out of fuel in practice
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Re: 2013 Formula 1 World Championship

Postby The Apostle » Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:15 pm

Alonso wins!

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