CROWS CLOSE IN ON RESERVES SIDE

[Wedgie]

Have an 8 team SANFL and have Ports reserves play the Crows reserves in their own 2 team comp every week. Problem solved.

[CENTURION]

even better! BUT, they wouldn't do that.

[on the rails]

I'd accept that as a bastardised compromise if it means the end of Port Magpies.

Port Power and the Adelaide Crows play in the reserves competition and no points are awarded to teams when they play the AFL reserves teams ... effectively an 8 team competition with 10 teams.

The Port Magpies do not play SANFL league or U18 competitions and both revert to an 8 team competition.

Port Magpies cease to be an entity at the conclusion of the 2013 season.

perfect. The Crows & Power won't put their reserves sides in the VFL, too far away for them to control properly, let's face it, they are going in the SANFL. AND THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT.

The League Directors of the 8 clubs have made it clear that they want NO AFL reserves team in our main comp. They will look at any proposal re having them play in the SANFL Reserves comp but even that is not ideal for all concerned but I could wear that if that is the only option.

[heater31]

I'd accept that as a bastardised compromise if it means the end of Port Magpies.

Port Power and the Adelaide Crows play in the reserves competition and no points are awarded to teams when they play the AFL reserves teams ... effectively an 8 team competition with 10 teams.

The Port Magpies do not play SANFL league or U18 competitions and both revert to an 8 team competition.

Port Magpies cease to be an entity at the conclusion of the 2013 season.

perfect. The Crows & Power won't put their reserves sides in the VFL, too far away for them to control properly, let's face it, they are going in the SANFL. AND THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT.

The League Directors of the 8 clubs have made it clear that they want NO AFL reserves team in our main comp. They will look at any proposal re having them play in the SANFL Reserves comp but even that is not ideal for all concerned but I could wear that if that is the only option.

If that were to happen then the AFL clubs would want to be throwing large amounts of $$$ at the remaining clubs to offset the increased costs and inconvenience that these two sides will create.

[CENTURION]

they won't play in the SANFL reserves, too low a standard.

[JamesH]

what league directors say and do are two different things.

The 9 WAFL clubs said EXACTLY the same thing..... (yes Im aware WCE & Freo get to vote unlike the Crows & Power).

As I keep saying: If this is going to happen make sure it is the best deal for the SANFL clubs and ensures we dont lose any famous names. Lets make them pay through the nose to comepte each season, smack their young kids around and not attend their home games

[HH3]

Why dont the AFL just make a reserve competition. Have 18 reserve teams made up of the rest of the AFL teams left overs. They could travel with the senior side, and play an identical fixture. Same set up as SAAFL, without the relegation/promotion system. Geelong and Collingwood already have their teams up and running.

This way it wouldnt effect the SANFL at all, except maybe Port Maggies and their "one club" mentality.

[mighty_tiger_79]

well done to the SANFL for what looks like truly ******* up the comp

[Mic]

After tonight, maybe the Crows' league team could play in our reserves comp.

[matt1]

No. Phil Harper negotiating with Chris Davies at the SANFL.

So our pride and joy is in the hands of a former cricketer who was 12 when the old SANFL was cut down by the birth of the Crows ...

Have some faith HTH, this bloke only took the job offered to him at the SANFL after they assured him it wasn't a done deal. And, ask Sturt people what he thought of the SANFL comp before coming to the Eagles - the only reason he was known around the place was because he was a massive Sturt fan who had become friends with Lennon, Threadgold, Weatherald, Nelson et al.

I've spoken about this with him, it's not the SANFL's decision, it's the SANFL Clubs decision. His role will be to present options and one of them has to be the Crows and Power in the SANFL competition.

The Crows agenda is clear, the Powers agenda less so. We should be lobbying our Clubs so they don't make a 'one Port' mistake again.

[matt1]

PhilH - you'd know Davies better than most on hear, what was his opinion when you worked with him?

[Harry the Horse]

No. Phil Harper negotiating with Chris Davies at the SANFL.

So our pride and joy is in the hands of a former cricketer who was 12 when the old SANFL was cut down by the birth of the Crows ...

Have some faith HTH, this bloke only took the job offered to him at the SANFL after they assured him it wasn't a done deal. And, ask Sturt people what he thought of the SANFL comp before coming to the Eagles - the only reason he was known around the place was because he was a massive Sturt fan who had become friends with Lennon, Threadgold, Weatherald, Nelson et al.

I've spoken about this with him, it's not the SANFL's decision, it's the SANFL Clubs decision. His role will be to present options and one of them has to be the Crows and Power in the SANFL competition.

The Crows agenda is clear, the Powers agenda less so. We should be lobbying our Clubs so they don't make a 'one Port' mistake again.

You're right Matt1. Been saying all along we have to start lobbying our club Presidents. And at the end of the day, six of the nine clubs have to vote in favour for a change to the League structure.
But there's so much at stake here I think it would be naive to trust anyone. The WA experience is proof of that.

[Agile]

Did anyone hear Chris [bonehead] McDerrrrrrrrmat last night on 5AA ? In his opinion the SANFL is dying. Clearly said it two or three times while talking to our great leader Premier Wetherornotall. What a great advocate for our game, witha prime time media spot.

Does anyone here know him personally ? If so how about reminding him of where he came from. My estimation of him has just dropped 50 points.

[CENTURION]

Did anyone hear Chris [bonehead] McDerrrrrrrrmat last night on 5AA ? In his opinion the SANFL is dying. Clearly said it two or three times while talking to our great leader Premier Wetherornotall. What a great advocate for our game, witha prime time media spot.

Does anyone here know him personally ? If so how about reminding him of where he came from. My estimation of him has just dropped 50 points.

it was his opinion, this forum is full of them.

[Pseudo]

You're right Matt1. Been saying all along we have to start lobbying our club Presidents. And at the end of the day, six of the nine clubs have to vote in favour for a change to the League structure.
But there's so much at stake here I think it would be naive to trust anyone. The WA experience is proof of that.

Nine clubs? Surely there are only 8 voting clubs?

[CENTURION]

You're right Matt1. Been saying all along we have to start lobbying our club Presidents. And at the end of the day, six of the nine clubs have to vote in favour for a change to the League structure.
But there's so much at stake here I think it would be naive to trust anyone. The WA experience is proof of that.

Nine clubs? Surely there are only 8 voting clubs?

unfortunately Port still have the right to vote.

[Dutchy]

Correct, we need to be emailing/calling our Presidnets/CEO/board members or bailing them up at the footy.

As it currently stands I couldn't see Norwood, North, Glenelg or Centrals voting for it.

We know Ports position, West and Sturt may have no choice, especially as Sturt have theirs debts secured by the SANFL and WWT's connection to the Crows worries me.

[JK]

Correct, we need to be emailing/calling our Presidnets/CEO/board members or bailing them up at the footy.

As it currently stands I couldn't see Norwood, North, Glenelg or Centrals voting for it.

We know Ports position, West and Sturt may have no choice, especially as Sturt have theirs debts secured by the SANFL and WWT's connection to the Crows worries me.

Discussing this with someone recently, they said Matt Benson wouldn't go for it (not that it would necessarily be his call I guess).

[o five]

North Adelaide Football Club will appose it, as was discussed at this years AGM.
Also it will be curtains for the Port Adelaide Magpies.

[Go Legs]

what league directors say and do are two different things.

I was just about to say the same thing, I don't think the clubs have much influence on directors decision making process as we all would think/hope.

It's all "fate acompli" the AFL clubs will get exactly what they want with the AFL-SA (Oops) sorry SANFL rolling over as usual.

The best we can hope for is that they (AFL Clubs) accept playing in the SANFL reserves comp which in turn take over the under 18's usual opposite ground structure and vice versa the under 18's play before the League side which is what the SANFL (Oops) sorry the AFL wanted so that talent scouts could watch both games at the same venue to keep an eye on possible recruits.

The Crows/Power coaches etc, want to keep an eye on and place their current listed players in positions of interest, which I am sure will raise a comment from my mate Centurion, so where they play is of no concern to either the AFL or the AFL (SA) oh hell SANFL you know what I mean, even if they don't.

Cheers,