Senor Moto Gadili wrote:Trader wrote:Yeah, Shemozzle might be a bit harsh, but the comp has been far from perfect.
The full program needs to be set at the start of the comp, not tweaked and twisted as it goes as it leaves the turf open to criticism about some sides getting easy draws and others always getting grouped together. How many times have Pooraka, PAOC and Payneham played each other over the last 3 years? Way too often this happens early in the T20 comps, not during the semis or GFs.
It could be said that those three clubs, together with perhaps Reynella are the best 4 (T20) teams in the turf, yet they seem to always be drawn against each other and knocked out early.
I understand the need for the round robbin stage to be grouped geographically, but there is no need for this to occur during finals (as these are played on Saturdays so getting to the ground after work on time isn't so much of an issue).
Another issue from my point of view is one I raise 3 months ago, Concordia (and A2 club) playing their A-grade in the Div 2 comp. Why the turf allowed this is beyond me.
It's no surprise they've made the GF now, and from what I can tell, no sides come even close to challenging them during the first 5 games.
Semi Finals are being played on a Tuesday night so I think the geography is an issue.
Pooraka have played PAOC a few times the ATCA T20 comp, but I don't classify Grand Final and Semi final as being knocked out early. Your not getting confused with SAMCA Cup games are you?
Agree with your point on Concordia playing in Div 2, but they will argue they put their hand up to round out the comp. Still not fair to have A Grade side playing against B Grade sides. Does this mean people will be supporting Payneham in Div 2 Final?
Not sure people would go as far as to support Payneham! haha.
Correct, the Semi Finals are Tuesday and this is the furthest travel they have programed (Reynella to Pooraka). The Rd of 16 and Qtr finals both could have had travel involved (especially the Rd of 16), yet they were all programed geographically from what I can see.
Given how often we play teams close by, the Round of 16 was a perfect chance to spread it out and play teams we normally wouldn't face.
Yeah, they meet alot in SAMCA too, but I was still referring to the ATCA comp. As 3 of the top 4 you wouldn't want them meeting too often before the Semi Finals.
2012/13 - Payneham vs PAOC in the group stage.
2012/13 - Pooraka vs PAOC in the Round of 16.
2012/13 - Pooraka vs Payneham in the Qtr finals.
2011/12 - Payneham vs PAOC in the Qtr finals.
2011/12 - PAOC vs Pooraka in the Semi finals.
2010/11 - Payneham Vs PAOC in the group stage
2010/11 - PAOC vs Pooraka in the GF
That's the turf comp only. SAMCA adds another batch of games to the mix.
