mark ducker wrote:Unfortunately it makes no difference if our kids are more developed anymore. cos kids from NSW and Qld do not need to be drafted anymore.
1. Queensland is not in the scholarship program. All kids from Qld have to be drafted. Trying to bring Qld (relatively strong comp, significant number of kids drafted, no scholarship scheme) with NSW (fairly weak comp, small number of kids drafted, scholarship scheme) just shows you've got it confused. In fact, those parts of NSW (Wagga/Riverina area) where Aussie rules is historically strong are not even eligible for scholarships.
2. Just in case you're not on top of the rules of this thing: the kids are entered onto a scholarship program from 14-17 yoa. In the draft where they reach draftable age, the scholarship club has first dibs on them. If they pass (and, you mark my words, many will) they go into the general draft the same as anyone else. So why, apart from being masochists trying to build a weak list, would they pick their NSW scholarship player over a 'more developed' SA kid?
mark ducker wrote:32 school kids get free entry onto afl lists bypassing the draft. While our more developed footballers dont. How Is that fair.
They don't get free entry onto AFL lists. See above. Your concern seems to be that your 'more developed' footballers won't go where you want, rather than not getting drafted. See below.
mark ducker wrote:also dont forget more qld than sa kids drafted last year. not bad considering our kids are way more developed . not adding up is it pag.
You're running yourself in circles here. The Qld kids were drafted on the open market, right? That level playing field that you say you want so badly? So what exactly is your problem with large numbers of Queensland boys, none of whom had anything to do with the scholarship scheme, being drafted?
mark ducker wrote:Can also point out none of what you guys have said has still justified this blatant discrimination to our junior talent at all. Just because NSW and QLD football arent as set up than SA should not equate to their juniors get a free ride into the AFL while ours get lumped in with the rest. Give them a scholarship if they need it. But free access to afl list can not be allowed.
You've finally acknowledged the reason behind the scholarship scheme. And the reason why the title of this thread is ridiculous. If your child wants to play Aussie rules professionally, you would accelerate their development by moving them to a non-Aussie rules state where the standard of competition, infrastructure and coaching are all inferior to your home state? Shyeah right.
It would make about as much sense for you, if your child is an Aussie rules prodigy, to move to South Africa... because the AFL is spending money there, you'll get access to special programs not available in Australia, and you can cheat your way onto a list by being listed as an international rookie. I can hear the rush of future Ross Gibbses buying their ticket to Capetown now.
mark ducker wrote:I am not asking for special treatment to our kids just a level playing field. At the end of the day should we really have to ask.
let me give you a scenario.
bryce gibbs at 15 has some talent. crows give him a scholarship and in two years can place him on their senior list . not loose a clearly talented junior to the pool and hope for the best.
but obviously the SANFl has got it set up perfectly.
And you've finally acknowledged the real reason behind your objection. Not that not enough SA players wind up on AFL lists (just look at the numbers over the years; they do fine). Rather that you can't kep them tied to SA clubs. Well, that's the 'level playing field', where all 16 clubs have license to roam all over Australia, for ya. If you're opposed to that, fine: but in that case you should be posting 'why the draft is a crock', and not 'everyone move your kids to NSW'.
Incidentally, in case you care, the SANFL does have a number of development schemes for talented young players. Details of the one for under 18s is
here. And kids who come up through SA development programs and show more ability and potential at 18yoa, will still get drafted every time over NSW scholarship kids who show less. NSW would be rapt to have 50% of SA's draft numbers.
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