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Re: SANFL Club profits

Postby westcoastpanther » Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:00 pm

Loan repayments don't affect profits, only the reduction in interest payable
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Re: SANFL Club profits

Postby Dutchy » Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:55 pm

westcoastpanther wrote:Loan repayments don't affect profits, only the reduction in interest payable


either does cap ex.
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Re: SANFL Club profits

Postby on the rails » Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:50 am

DOC wrote:If I'm reading it right.

We had Pokie turnover of $1.9m and made a profit.
Centrals had Pokie turnover of $4.3 m and made a loss.
North have a Pokie turnover of about $8m and will report a loss.

How can this be so?


Surely that is not correct - South must have taken more than $1.9m through 40 machines, it is one of the best performing venues in SA?

Amazingly for the NAFC, whilst the industry was down across the board on average 5% in gaming revenue, the Northern Tavern was up 6%!
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Re: SANFL Club profits

Postby Wedgie » Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:24 am

God bless those northern suburb pensioners. Keep throwing the free coffee and sandwiches at them!
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Re: SANFL Club profits

Postby DOC » Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:07 am

on the rails wrote:
DOC wrote:If I'm reading it right.

We had Pokie turnover of $1.9m and made a profit.
Centrals had Pokie turnover of $4.3 m and made a loss.
North have a Pokie turnover of about $8m and will report a loss.

How can this be so?


Surely that is not correct - South must have taken more than $1.9m through 40 machines, it is one of the best performing venues in SA?

Amazingly for the NAFC, whilst the industry was down across the board on average 5% in gaming revenue, the Northern Tavern was up 6%!



I think I have this wrong. The figure is listed against net poker machine receipts which I guess is the difference between coins in and coins out. I don't know what our turnover was but I think returns are something like 80% so maybe our turnover is around $8m.

Looks like I wasn't reading it right.
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Re: SANFL Club profits

Postby on the rails » Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:18 am

DOC wrote:
on the rails wrote:
DOC wrote:If I'm reading it right.

We had Pokie turnover of $1.9m and made a profit.
Centrals had Pokie turnover of $4.3 m and made a loss.
North have a Pokie turnover of about $8m and will report a loss.

How can this be so?


Surely that is not correct - South must have taken more than $1.9m through 40 machines, it is one of the best performing venues in SA?

Amazingly for the NAFC, whilst the industry was down across the board on average 5% in gaming revenue, the Northern Tavern was up 6%!



I think I have this wrong. The figure is listed against net poker machine receipts which I guess is the difference between coins in and coins out. I don't know what our turnover was but I think returns are something like 80% so maybe our turnover is around $8m.

Looks like I wasn't reading it right.


Couldn't be $8m for only 40 machines!

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Re: SANFL Club profits

Postby CENTURION » Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:21 am

the club is open when there's no footy on.
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Re: SANFL Club profits

Postby DOC » Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:29 am

And its 40 machines.
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Re: SANFL Club profits

Postby Mr Fuller » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:47 pm

Anyone know when the Eagles announce their financial results? Or have I missed it?
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Re: SANFL Club profits

Postby holden78 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:48 am

At the AGM in a few weeks I'd say!
My guess would be a small loss may be on the cards to accommodate the clubroom refurbishment.
These things tend to get worked to reduce tax liablity and set up future financial goals.
I believe we are very solid though or there was no
way the Eagles could have afforded the refurbishment in this particular economic climate.
Taking on a CEO with very little footy background but a solid business CV tells you what is the most important aspect of a SANFL club in 2013.
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Re: SANFL Club profits

Postby on the rails » Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:01 am

North were presented with and paid a rather large land tax bill last year amounting to over $200K re the Northern Tavern. Previous Admin missed the fact it wasn't paid and the State Tax Office though must take the blame issuing it 7 yrs after North took over the business. The mistake by the Govt. was put down to a clerical error. That goes a someway to explaining why we will recrod a loss for 2012.
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Re: SANFL Club profits

Postby SDK » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:42 pm

Has North owned the site that long ? I would have though Rob Gerard would be liable for that ?????
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Re: SANFL Club profits

Postby robranisgod » Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:08 pm

SDK wrote:Has North owned the site that long ? I would have though Rob Gerard would be liable for that ?????

Since about 2004. Why would Gerard be liable?
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Re: SANFL Club profits

Postby o five » Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:51 pm

SDK wrote:Has North owned the site that long ? I would have though Rob Gerard would be liable for that ?????


Pretty certain we lease the site. And what has R Gerard got to do with it? NAFC owns the lease. Does Gerard own the NAFC SDK?
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Re: SANFL Club profits

Postby SDK » Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:12 pm

I thought Gerard owned the propert and let NAFC use it. Obviously wrong.
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Re: SANFL Club profits

Postby Mark_Beswick » Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:47 pm

Rental / leased businesses over a certain value (I think 400k) assume all costs like council, esl, land tax, water etc...
Norths Asset would be well over that value so they would have to pay the $$$ - Unfortuntaely there are a few clubs with tax bills making their clubs life difficult at the moment. Fortunately North can cover this hiccup after some excellent financial decisions over the past 10 years.
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Re: SANFL Club profits

Postby CENTURION » Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:58 pm

Mark_Beswick wrote:Rental / leased businesses over a certain value (I think 400k) assume all costs like council, esl, land tax, water etc...
Norths Asset would be well over that value so they would have to pay the $$$ - Unfortuntaely there are a few clubs with tax bills making their clubs life difficult at the moment. Fortunately North can cover this hiccup after some excellent financial decisions over the past 10 years.

The biggest decision was to enlist the help of Bill Cochrane.
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Re: SANFL Club profits

Postby on the rails » Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:18 am

Frickers own the actual building portion as a freehold and North own the operating Hotel licence / lease and all assets associated as a leasehold.

I am amazed at how many people continue to push the myth that Gerard owned or owns it!
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Re: SANFL Club profits

Postby holden78 » Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:37 am

Well there was a time when no one made a move without him! ;)
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Re: SANFL Club profits

Postby Sojourner » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:02 am

holden78 wrote:At the AGM in a few weeks I'd say!
My guess would be a small loss may be on the cards to accommodate the clubroom refurbishment.
These things tend to get worked to reduce tax liablity and set up future financial goals.
I believe we are very solid though or there was no
way the Eagles could have afforded the refurbishment in this particular economic climate.
Taking on a CEO with very little footy background but a solid business CV tells you what is the most important aspect of a SANFL club in 2013.


Did Woodville not delay or cancel altogether the redevelopment plan that would have included a lap pool and so on and elect to just go with the retro installation of a lift under the current financial climate?
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