Australian Pace Bowling Conundrum

[whufc]

Would you take Zampa over to India even if you have no intention of playing him but to get him around the squad, train and experience the best players of spin in the world.

Yes, far better option than Maxwell.
Even O'Keefe would be a better option in India

Good call, his a bit of the forgotton man.

Would love to see him get a crack.

Now Husseys number 6 batting spot is up for grabs we may see someone like O'Keefe get the gig for the India tour.

[Jim05]

Would you take Zampa over to India even if you have no intention of playing him but to get him around the squad, train and experience the best players of spin in the world.

Yes, far better option than Maxwell.
Even O'Keefe would be a better option in India

Good call, his a bit of the forgotton man.

Would love to see him get a crack.

Now Husseys number 6 batting spot is up for grabs we may see someone like O'Keefe get the gig for the India tour.

Left arm spin for some variety and handy with the bat.
Must be doing something right to be the NSW skipper at such a young age.

[The Dark Knight]

Would you take Zampa over to India even if you have no intention of playing him but to get him around the squad, train and experience the best players of spin in the world.

Yes, far better option than Maxwell.
Even O'Keefe would be a better option in India

Good call, his a bit of the forgotton man.

Would love to see him get a crack.

Now Husseys number 6 batting spot is up for grabs we may see someone like O'Keefe get the gig for the India tour.

Left arm spin for some variety and handy with the bat.
Must be doing something right to be the NSW skipper at such a young age.

Yeah agreed, handy cricketer. Would be a better option than Maxwell.

[The Dark Knight]

Yes, he would easily be in their top 15-20 - he had 53 wickets @ 23 in the 2012 County season - we don't have any spinners performing anything like that in first class cricket.

2012-13 Shield leading wicket-takers

The top 21 are all pace bowlers then:

O'Keefe 9 wickets @ 34
Hauritz 9 wickets @ 38
Beer 8 wickets @ 46

Adam Zampa 5 wickets @9.40


20 years old , and is an extremely talented leg spinner
Has also taken 4 wickets @16 in the BBL , and had some dropped catches and at least one stumping missed off his bowling
I just hope he is not fast tracked to go to India as it would be too early
Adam has not bowled a long 20 + overs spell too date in First Class cricket, so will need to reserve judgement on his abilty to bowl well in a sustained spell
I have a feeling he might be a 200 wicket Test match spinner for Australia

he sure does look good Mal, I agree.

had played one shield match,

NSW v Qld
1st innings: 6 overs, 3/17
2nd innings: 9 overs, 2/30

scored 18 of 22 balls batting at 9 in the second innings

I hope he can become a regular in NSW's SS team, has bowled very well in the Big Bash so far despite playing for the struggling Sydney Thunder.

[daysofourlives]

Would you take Zampa over to India even if you have no intention of playing him but to get him around the squad, train and experience the best players of spin in the world.

Yes, far better option than Maxwell.
Even O'Keefe would be a better option in India

Good call, his a bit of the forgotton man.

Would love to see him get a crack.

Now Husseys number 6 batting spot is up for grabs we may see someone like O'Keefe get the gig for the India tour.

Left arm spin for some variety and handy with the bat.
Must be doing something right to be the NSW skipper at such a young age.

Yeah he offers stability, he's the least likely of its 20odd man squad to get a baggy green

[Hondo]

The reason to play the extra batsmen is if you play 3 seam bowlers on the current Indian pitches u might as well play a player short! The ind vs eng series was proof of this. There is nothing in the pitches for the seamers. You will not win a test in India without posting 400 plus in one of the innings either.

Clarke and Warner are part timers no doubt but Indian pitches have a habit of turning average spinners into world beaters!!

We have been down the path of trying to beat India in India with 3 pacemen IT DOESN'T WORK, if McGrath, Lee, Gillespie couldn't have succes the chances of Siddle, Starc, Johnson and co are next to none

If Indian pitches can turn Clarke and Warner into world beaters then why not pick a specialist spinner and let him be the world beater and let the specialist bats just bat?

That's what I'm suggesting not necessarily a 3rd seamer.

[mal]

The Indians are sneaky
They will know Australia is very very strong in pace bowling
The Australians will no doubt get a menu of flat decks or spinning decks
There is a likelyhood of little or no bounce for the quicks

Having thought short and easy I have selected my team for India

North
Warner
S Smith
D Hussey
Clarke
Maxwell
Wade
Okeefe
Krezja
Doherty
Lyon


Others in my squad
Beer
Voges
Boyce
Zampa
White
Hauritz

[FlyingHigh]

Getting a bit of topic here, but Boyce, at 23, is the one that should really be showing whether he has it or not, but unfortunately is another victim of the BBL programming, with no Shield games from mid-Dec through January, when the spinners can be more prominent with the weather warming up and pitches drying out.

Qld played 5 of their 6 shield games up until mid-November, when the weather and pitches are often still in the faster bowlers favour. Boyce played 3 of these and four of the six, being a bit-to-average player behind the quicks. The two games he missed finished within 3 days. He won't play another Shield game until early Feb.

[Media Park]

Siddle &Johnson need to play. Starc will get another crack, Bird will miss, hard to see Hilf getting back when Patto & Cummins are fit

[CoverKing]

Would you take Zampa over to India even if you have no intention of playing him but to get him around the squad, train and experience the best players of spin in the world.

Yes, far better option than Maxwell.
Even O'Keefe would be a better option in India

Good call, his a bit of the forgotton man.

Would love to see him get a crack.

Now Husseys number 6 batting spot is up for grabs we may see someone like O'Keefe get the gig for the India tour.

Left arm spin for some variety and handy with the bat.
Must be doing something right to be the NSW skipper at such a young age.

Not so young is SOK.

[Media Park]

What is with the zampa love

[Coach Bombay]

Okeefe is not that young

[Jim05]

Okeefe is not that young

Since when has 28 been over the hill or too old?

[stan]

Siddle is my first picked along wnith a fit and firing Pattinson.
I would then have Starc with Hilf, johnson and bird all in that other bracket. When young cummins is fit and going again he will force his way back in but not for india.

Just on india, we know from the english tour the pitches will be ******* shit stacks at best. Still we have Lyon withhis offies, Clarke with his left armers so do we need that additional spinner if we dont have anyone up to it?

[Media Park]

Think warner will bowl before pup now

[Coach Bombay]

Okeefe is not that young

Since when has 28 been over the hill or too old?

It's not either of those, just wouldn't classify him as young.

[Media Park]

O'keefe is not young and is getting a mention on a pace bowlers thread

[The Sleeping Giant]

The Indians are sneaky
They will know Australia is very very strong in pace bowling
The Australians will no doubt get a menu of flat decks or spinning decks
There is a likelyhood of little or no bounce for the quicks

Yes very sneaky. They have only been making pitches like that for 50 years. Hope someone has informed the Australian cricket team.

[Punk Rooster]

The Indians are sneaky
They will know Australia is very very strong in pace bowling
The Australians will no doubt get a menu of flat decks or spinning decks
There is a likelyhood of little or no bounce for the quicks

Yes very sneaky. They have only been making pitches like that for 50 years. Hope someone has informed the Australian cricket team.

The Indians are cheats.
Have been for more than 50 years.

[RustyCage]

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/watson-to-take-indefinite-break-from-bowling-20130107-2cckx.html

AUSTRALIA will have to shoehorn an all-rounder into its Test team for the upcoming tour of India, and possibly the Ashes, after Shane Watson confirmed he would take an indefinite break from bowling.

A meeting between Watson and Cricket Australia selectors John Inverarity, Andy Bichel, Mickey Arthur and Michael Clarke last Tuesday culminated in an understanding the injury-plagued 31-year-old would shelve his fast-medium bowling - a move he had long and vigorously resisted - in a bid to shore up his Test batting, which has been below par for the past two years.

"I don't think Watto would mind me saying this, right at the moment Watto wants to come back as a batsman," said Arthur, the national team's coach.

"He wants to come back into the team with a primary focus of batting. He feels every time he bats and then he gets injured [when] bowling, he just loses a bit of momentum with his batting, which is probably fair to say.