BBL 2012/13

[mal]

Over 4 Danny Christian

X marsh a swing and a miss , useless shot , no run dear oh dear oh me
1 marsh drives Danny stops a very hard drive
4 coulter nile snicks a 4 , f...g arse , PS still in the game
6 Coulter nile drives over long off for a massive 6 , sensational hit
4 overpitched Coulter nile off drives a great shot, here comes Perth
6 well up Coulter Nile on drives 6 more , whadda over for Perth
PS 1/43

8 needed off 6 balls

[whufc]

10/10 U EFFIN BEAUTY!!!!!

[mal]

What an absolute farce
51 off 30 balls for a win with all 10 wickets in hand

This is purely my opinion
BH 4/109 [13.1]
Christian 37*[31]
Forrest 3*[4]
Cutting and Perera still in the shed
With 41 balls left , it is likely that BS would score another 70 runs
That would give BH a score of close to 180

Given this probable scenario , PS would have had very little chance to win the game

The PS get gifted , absolutely gifted , this game with a stupid formula , making a farce and a mockery of cricket

[Jim05]

This mickey mouse comp has hit an all time low with farces like we have seen this year.

[Pup]

What a disgrace! Seriously absolutely disgraceful that Perth can win with a score that little.

Pretty blood poor over from Christian too though. Any money bet on the Heat should be refunded.

[mal]

The absurdity of this game was Duckworth Lewis
I know its worked out on a devised method off this and f....g that
BUT
BH 4/109[13.1]
Christian is still in and burning
Perera and Cutting are Killer batters still to come in

Look at the Perth line up
They batted the only 3 guys who can hit a cricket ball in this weak batting line up

Marsh hit or miss
Gibbs match winner if gets going
Coluter Nile can smash
North useless
Katich too old a liability
Stoinis the worst speciallist batsman Ive seen in the last 2 years
Cartwright handy
Triffit handy
Thomas average
Hogg too old
Beer awful

How could that line up get 160- 180 if Marsh and Gibbs dont make a big score

But somehow Duckworth Lewis has the result mastered

With the rain, whoever batted 2nd was always going to win

BH hits 109 off 13.1 overs, thats exceptional scoring at this format
And lose a game they were heavily favored to win

[Pup]

Especially when you take into account their start and you forgot Hartley. Match should have been abandoned, minimum should be 10 overs for a game

[mal]

Especially when you take into account their start and you forgot Hartley. Match should have been abandoned, minimum should be 10 overs for a game

Reverse the situation
BH sends out
Christian
Lynn
Cutting
Perera

What formula works out who is to bat in a chase ?
These guys would cream 51 off 30 balls about 90 % of the time

What if BH sent out
Jimo5
Whufc
Pup
Dutchy

These guys would make the 51 in less than 3 overs !!!

Yep should be a 15 over minimum , even 10 would be too inconclusive

[whufc]

That's why u back the team batting second, everything in t20 favours them

[whufc]

The absurdity of this game was Duckworth Lewis
I know its worked out on a devised method off this and f....g that
BUT
BH 4/109[13.1]
Christian is still in and burning
Perera and Cutting are Killer batters still to come in

Look at the Perth line up
They batted the only 3 guys who can hit a cricket ball in this weak batting line up

Marsh hit or miss
Gibbs match winner if gets going
Coluter Nile can smash
North useless
Katich too old a liability
Stoinis the worst speciallist batsman Ive seen in the last 2 years
Cartwright handy
Triffit handy
Thomas average
Hogg too old
Beer awful

How could that line up get 160- 180 if Marsh and Gibbs dont make a big score

But somehow Duckworth Lewis has the result mastered

With the rain, whoever batted 2nd was always going to win

BH hits 109 off 13.1 overs, thats exceptional scoring at this format
And lose a game they were heavily favored to win

I don't agree with the figure DL system came up with BUT 2 things.

1/ the figure can't possibly take into account the oppositions batting line up,

2/ whatever the score set is there has to be at least a 1% chance the opposition can get it, just because the heat may have hit 200 doesn't mean the team batting second couldn't make it.

Maybe a better formula would be something that sets the opposition a similar run rate (or slighty increased run rate considering 99% of innings build) but with reduced wickets in hand.

The 10 runs an over seemed pretty fair considering the heat were on track for about an 8.5-9 runs an over. The bigger issue was the 10 wickets in hand which meant the Scorchers didn't have to consider getting out as an option.

Maybe that target of 51(5) with 3 wickets in hand would have been a better formula

[Pup]

The biggest issue is the 5 overs, Its just too short.

[the joker]

Yep the T20 needs a bonus point system!

Also could this comp be in trouble if the world champs cant get a decent crowd, or is it more about tv ratings.

It's a lot about the ratings too, absolutely smashing the A league. Guarantee free to air will make a big play next year

Bbl 3 will be on free to air. All three Chanel's will go for it. And 10 may even have international cricket

[whufc]

The biggest issue is the 5 overs, Its just too short.

But thats what the T2o is about, seeing teams win and lose withing a few hours and just smashing from ball one.

In 20 years we will be watching t10 just like the 50 over version became to long a format

[the joker]

The absurdity of this game was Duckworth Lewis
I know its worked out on a devised method off this and f....g that
BUT
BH 4/109[13.1]
Christian is still in and burning
Perera and Cutting are Killer batters still to come in

Look at the Perth line up
They batted the only 3 guys who can hit a cricket ball in this weak batting line up

Marsh hit or miss
Gibbs match winner if gets going
Coluter Nile can smash
North useless
Katich too old a liability
Stoinis the worst speciallist batsman Ive seen in the last 2 years
Cartwright handy
Triffit handy
Thomas average
Hogg too old
Beer awful

How could that line up get 160- 180 if Marsh and Gibbs dont make a big score

But somehow Duckworth Lewis has the result mastered

With the rain, whoever batted 2nd was always going to win

BH hits 109 off 13.1 overs, thats exceptional scoring at this format
And lose a game they were heavily favored to win

I don't agree with the figure DL system came up with BUT 2 things.

1/ the figure can't possibly take into account the oppositions batting line up,

2/ whatever the score set is there has to be at least a 1% chance the opposition can get it, just because the heat may have hit 200 doesn't mean the team batting second couldn't make it.

Maybe a better formula would be something that sets the opposition a similar run rate (or slighty increased run rate considering 99% of innings build) but with reduced wickets in hand.

The 10 runs an over seemed pretty fair considering the heat were on track for about an 8.5-9 runs an over. The bigger issue was the 10 wickets in hand which meant the Scorchers didn't have to consider getting out as an option.

Maybe that target of 51(5) with 3 wickets in hand would have been a better formula

I always thought with DL. If you lost A wicket the total was made larger.

[whufc]

It does but what DL doesn't take into account when setting a total, is the team batting second can just swing swing swing without the fear of being bowled out especially in a 5 over game.

[MAY-Z]

i am a massive fan of duckworth lewis, but it only really works in 50 over cricket where you still have a large portion of the match completed

t20 cricket is not suited to revised targets, especially when such a small amount of balls are required to constitute a match

last nigh perth wasted 3 overs and still made the runs with 4 balls to spare

another problem with the system which weights it in terms of the side batting second is the bowling restrictions, last night perth bowled their most economical bowler (beer) for 4 of the 13 overs, or 30% of the innings. bris were only allowed to bowl their best bowler for 20% of the innings, perth also only had to bowl their weakest bowler (cartwright) for 1 over, or 7.6% of the innings whereas bris had to bowl their weakest bowler for 20% of the innings.

and another thing, why did the match have to re-start at 9:12 bris time to give enough time for 5 overs? based on the melb vs perth match even if they started at 9:20 and perth could only bat for 3 overs they shouldve been able to have a chance of getting teh 5 over d/l target just like melbourne did

[mal]

i am a massive fan of duckworth lewis, but it only really works in 50 over cricket where you still have a large portion of the match completed

t20 cricket is not suited to revised targets, especially when such a small amount of balls are required to constitute a match

last nigh perth wasted 3 overs and still made the runs with 4 balls to spare

another problem with the system which weights it in terms of the side batting second is the bowling restrictions, last night perth bowled their most economical bowler (beer) for 4 of the 13 overs, or 30% of the innings. bris were only allowed to bowl their best bowler for 20% of the innings, perth also only had to bowl their weakest bowler (cartwright) for 1 over, or 7.6% of the innings whereas bris had to bowl their weakest bowler for 20% of the innings.

and another thing, why did the match have to re-start at 9:12 bris time to give enough time for 5 overs? based on the melb vs perth match even if they started at 9:20 and perth could only bat for 3 overs they shouldve been able to have a chance of getting teh 5 over d/l target just like melbourne did

Spot on, and very good post about weaker/better bowlers bowling proportions
Also the side batting 2nd had the opportunity of sending in the pinch hitting Coulter Nile
The side batting first had possible pinch hitters Perera and Cutting spectating the whole BH innings

Would it have made more sense to allow BH to bat another 2 overs in this situation, time permitting ?

[mal]

The absurdity of this game was Duckworth Lewis
I know its worked out on a devised method off this and f....g that
BUT
BH 4/109[13.1]
Christian is still in and burning
Perera and Cutting are Killer batters still to come in

Look at the Perth line up
They batted the only 3 guys who can hit a cricket ball in this weak batting line up

Marsh hit or miss
Gibbs match winner if gets going
Coluter Nile can smash
North useless
Katich too old a liability
Stoinis the worst speciallist batsman Ive seen in the last 2 years
Cartwright handy
Triffit handy
Thomas average
Hogg too old
Beer awful

How could that line up get 160- 180 if Marsh and Gibbs dont make a big score

But somehow Duckworth Lewis has the result mastered

With the rain, whoever batted 2nd was always going to win

BH hits 109 off 13.1 overs, thats exceptional scoring at this format
And lose a game they were heavily favored to win

I don't agree with the figure DL system came up with BUT 2 things.

1/ the figure can't possibly take into account the oppositions batting line up,

2/ whatever the score set is there has to be at least a 1% chance the opposition can get it, just because the heat may have hit 200 doesn't mean the team batting second couldn't make it.

Maybe a better formula would be something that sets the opposition a similar run rate (or slighty increased run rate considering 99% of innings build) but with reduced wickets in hand.

The 10 runs an over seemed pretty fair considering the heat were on track for about an 8.5-9 runs an over. The bigger issue was the 10 wickets in hand which meant the Scorchers didn't have to consider getting out as an option.

Maybe that target of 51(5) with 3 wickets in hand would have been a better formula

One of the most impressive things on Safooty, is some of your very thoughtful and very very good posts
What you have posted makes a lot of sense

Your last point is absolutely spot on
PS could have made the runs and finished on say 7/52
That would have meant BH would have outplayed PS and lost the game

I really really like your solution in a 5 over run chase
Dont gift a 10 wicket leeway
Make the chasing team more accountable, if they lose 3-4 wickets, they should lose the match

[MAY-Z]

The absurdity of this game was Duckworth Lewis
I know its worked out on a devised method off this and f....g that
BUT
BH 4/109[13.1]
Christian is still in and burning
Perera and Cutting are Killer batters still to come in

Look at the Perth line up
They batted the only 3 guys who can hit a cricket ball in this weak batting line up

Marsh hit or miss
Gibbs match winner if gets going
Coluter Nile can smash
North useless
Katich too old a liability
Stoinis the worst speciallist batsman Ive seen in the last 2 years
Cartwright handy
Triffit handy
Thomas average
Hogg too old
Beer awful

How could that line up get 160- 180 if Marsh and Gibbs dont make a big score

But somehow Duckworth Lewis has the result mastered

With the rain, whoever batted 2nd was always going to win

BH hits 109 off 13.1 overs, thats exceptional scoring at this format
And lose a game they were heavily favored to win

I don't agree with the figure DL system came up with BUT 2 things.

1/ the figure can't possibly take into account the oppositions batting line up,

2/ whatever the score set is there has to be at least a 1% chance the opposition can get it, just because the heat may have hit 200 doesn't mean the team batting second couldn't make it.

Maybe a better formula would be something that sets the opposition a similar run rate (or slighty increased run rate considering 99% of innings build) but with reduced wickets in hand.

The 10 runs an over seemed pretty fair considering the heat were on track for about an 8.5-9 runs an over. The bigger issue was the 10 wickets in hand which meant the Scorchers didn't have to consider getting out as an option.

Maybe that target of 51(5) with 3 wickets in hand would have been a better formula

One of the most impressive things on Safooty, is some of your very thoughtful and very very good posts
What you have posted makes a lot of sense

Your last point is absolutely spot on
PS could have made the runs and finished on say 7/52
That would have meant BH would have outplayed PS and lost the game

I really really like your solution in a 5 over run chase
Dont gift a 10 wicket leeway
Make the chasing team more accountable, if they lose 3-4 wickets, they should lose the match

there is a big flaw with that though

say its decided 3 wickets is used as all out for a 5 over game

the game is rain interupted before the start and is reduced to 10 overs per side

team 1 makes 100 runs

team 2 is 3/45 off 4 overs, then it starts to rain - rain stops and it is decided that teh 5th over can be played but becuase team 2 has already lost 3 wickets do they lose the match?

[whufc]

Yeah if it's decided u only have 3 wickets in hand and u lose the 3 wickets its game over.