River Murray Football League talk

[PitBull]

Would have loved to start with a name but my mate wouldn't tell me until it was done. Thats why I put it out here hoping someone else might know something?

Is it a former Geelong Full Forward who has a mate playing at Mannum.

[MR FOOTYHEAD]

Would have loved to start with a name but my mate wouldn't tell me until it was done. Thats why I put it out here hoping someone else might know something?

Is it a former Geelong Full Forward who has a mate playing at Mannum.

This is amazing, next they will be playing the Crows in a pre season fixture.

[Chester]

Would have loved to start with a name but my mate wouldn't tell me until it was done. Thats why I put it out here hoping someone else might know something?

Is it a former Geelong Full Forward who has a mate playing at Mannum.

Gary Ablett?? Lol.

[Chester]

you guys realise that under certain circumstances RMFL clubs can apply for extra points. Stop stressing about mannum and it's points allocations and how much we are or aren't spending on players. The RMFL are aware of who we have signed and what our points situation is.
I was at training and Bowen was not there.

I did hear a rumor from a good source close to one of the clubs that Bowen is having seconds thoughts, it would explain why he hasn't been seen at mannum.

[Pooh Bear]

you guys realise that under certain circumstances RMFL clubs can apply for extra points. Stop stressing about mannum and it's points allocations and how much we are or aren't spending on players. The RMFL are aware of who we have signed and what our points situation is.
I was at training and Bowen was not there.

I did hear a rumor from a good source close to one of the clubs that Bowen is having seconds thoughts, it would explain why he hasn't been seen at mannum.

110% signed.

[The Closing Cook]

Would have loved to start with a name but my mate wouldn't tell me until it was done. Thats why I put it out here hoping someone else might know something?

Is it a former Geelong Full Forward who has a mate playing at Mannum.

Kent Kingsley?

[Moleman]

you guys realise that under certain circumstances RMFL clubs can apply for extra points. Stop stressing about mannum and it's points allocations and how much we are or aren't spending on players. The RMFL are aware of who we have signed and what our points situation is.
I was at training and Bowen was not there.

I would be surprised if Mannum were granted any additional  approved player points by the RMFL as most were surprised the relatively successful Roos were granted the maximum 15 in the first place.

I also don't believe the RMFL would take any notice in a team's signings and factor them into any considerations until the clearance period begins in February. 

As of now, Mannum have 14 points on their books of players "cleared" to the RMFL. The side finished in the finals, have and that 14 point figure includes Clayton  who was cleared to Mannum some time ago and is now set to play for the Roos. Will the RMFL deem the Roos need more points, with Clayton and association players Pech, Harvey and Hall on the books?  

[GWW]

I thought exactly the same thing Moleman.

I also was surprised they had 15 points for 2013. Not sure if they finished 4th or 5th after minor round?? From what I noted, teams finishing 4th or 5th would received no more than 13 in the past.

So it seems the RMFL is moving away from a set formula for determining points allocation - ie. ladder position after minor round - to a discretionary system.

Giving clubs like Jervois and Tailem, with their smaller populations and relative lack of success in past years (although admittedly I think Jervois finished 3rd? in 2011, but came from the Elimination) - 7 less points than the 2 MB sides, appears quite odd.

I'm not saying that the MB clubs don't deserve a fair allocation of points, but a sliding scale system would appear to make more sense.

Presumably its been done like this to remove the incentive for clubs to not put a 100% effort in place when they can't make the finals.

[P.B]

you guys realise that under certain circumstances RMFL clubs can apply for extra points. Stop stressing about mannum and it's points allocations and how much we are or aren't spending on players. The RMFL are aware of who we have signed and what our points situation is.
I was at training and Bowen was not there.

I would be surprised if Mannum were granted any additional  approved player points by the RMFL as most were surprised the relatively successful Roos were granted the maximum 15 in the first place.

I also don't believe the RMFL would take any notice in a team's signings and factor them into any considerations until the clearance period begins in February. 

As of now, Mannum have 14 points on their books of players "cleared" to the RMFL. The side finished in the finals, have and that 14 point figure includes Clayton  who was cleared to Mannum some time ago and is now set to play for the Roos. Will the RMFL deem the Roos need more points, with Clayton and association players Pech, Harvey and Hall on the books?  

This is tiring.

I would say finishing 5th in a 7 team comp with 7 wins for a season could hardly be classified as 'relatively successful' Moleman. Further I doubt whether the RMFL would 'deem' Mannum as needing more points based on the quality of the list, to do so is discriminatory. I would assume applying for more points is more to do with depth of playing stocks.

[biffboy]

I agree! Any news on Tailem or Jervois? I see Owen Love has a pic up on Facebook in a jervois singlet

[Moleman]

you guys realise that under certain circumstances RMFL clubs can apply for extra points. Stop stressing about mannum and it's points allocations and how much we are or aren't spending on players. The RMFL are aware of who we have signed and what our points situation is.
I was at training and Bowen was not there.

I would be surprised if Mannum were granted any additional  approved player points by the RMFL as most were surprised the relatively successful Roos were granted the maximum 15 in the first place.

I also don't believe the RMFL would take any notice in a team's signings and factor them into any considerations until the clearance period begins in February. 

As of now, Mannum have 14 points on their books of players "cleared" to the RMFL. The side finished in the finals, have and that 14 point figure includes Clayton  who was cleared to Mannum some time ago and is now set to play for the Roos. Will the RMFL deem the Roos need more points, with Clayton and association players Pech, Harvey and Hall on the books?  

This is tiring.

I would say finishing 5th in a 7 team comp with 7 wins for a season could hardly be classified as 'relatively successful' Moleman. Further I doubt whether the RMFL would 'deem' Mannum as needing more points based on the quality of the list, to do so is discriminatory. I would assume applying for more points is more to do with depth of playing stocks.

Fair call about the list quality not being a factor. But when you consider in recent history Mannum have played off in two grand finals and in the same time Meningie and Tailem Bend have had wooden spoons. I'm not crying poor, I'm just wondering what they'd be thinking to give Mannum extras. I remember when Meningie used to get one extra based on geographical location. I guess that no longer happens.

[grasshopper22]

you guys realise that under certain circumstances RMFL clubs can apply for extra points. Stop stressing about mannum and it's points allocations and how much we are or aren't spending on players. The RMFL are aware of who we have signed and what our points situation is.
I was at training and Bowen was not there.

I would be surprised if Mannum were granted any additional approved player points by the RMFL as most were surprised the relatively successful Roos were granted the maximum 15 in the first place.

I also don't believe the RMFL would take any notice in a team's signings and factor them into any considerations until the clearance period begins in February.

As of now, Mannum have 14 points on their books of players "cleared" to the RMFL. The side finished in the finals, have and that 14 point figure includes Clayton who was cleared to Mannum some time ago and is now set to play for the Roos. Will the RMFL deem the Roos need more points, with Clayton and association players Pech, Harvey and Hall on the books?

This is tiring.

I would say finishing 5th in a 7 team comp with 7 wins for a season could hardly be classified as 'relatively successful' Moleman. Further I doubt whether the RMFL would 'deem' Mannum as needing more points based on the quality of the list, to do so is discriminatory. I would assume applying for more points is more to do with depth of playing stocks.

Fair call about the list quality not being a factor. But when you consider in recent history Mannum have played off in two grand finals and in the same time Meningie and Tailem Bend have had wooden spoons. I'm not crying poor, I'm just wondering what they'd be thinking to give Mannum extras. I remember when Meningie used to get one extra based on geographical location. I guess that no longer happens.

Spot on Moleman!!

[P.B]

'What they'd be thinking'. Perhaps they are privy to information you are not. Information such as Mannum losing 12+ A Grade, 0 point players in the past two years (9 of which all went to Karoonda). Im sure if you watched Mannum's B Grade last year you would have noticed 5-6 50+ yr olds running around in sneakers due to a lack of numbers. How many U17s did you have last year? We had 5 registered within that age group who are eligible to play either As or Bs this year.

I would also suggest the club's recruitment is much more than a football issue, its a community one. Bringing in Magarey Medalists has generated some great interest amongst juniors in our community and its hoped this will bring more young boys out to Mannum for a kick. That's why the club got involved with the Community Fun Run. You only had to see the young kids running alongside the Mannum players at the start and throughout to see it was successful for all. Not to mention the skateboard ramp that is alongside the oval also.

There would be no fuss if we picked up 2x 3 point players relatively unknown from the Hills league or alike.

[GWW]

How many of those zero pointers, were lost as they returned to their original/junior club where they are also zero pointers?

Also, I think it would be an interesting move for the RMFL to provide more points to a club who used 8 points up through 2 players, and also recruited a 3 point player - ruckman - who was at another club in the league, at the same time that they had a local ruckman return (zero pointer), someone who had played Association football.

Also, would it be fair to say that Jervois, Tailem, Mypo, and Meningie have all struggled with B Grade numbers over the years as well?

[anzacspirit]

There is nothing stopping, Tailem, Jervois, or Meningie doing what Mannum are doing and I'm sure the RMFL would have no issues with it. We do not have the depth of our Murray Bridge neighbours, we have to recruit to be competitive simple as that. We are improving our junior development so that in the future we don't have to be as reliant on the current points system.

[P.B]

Does it matter if they were originally 0 point players? Fact is they have to be replaced and with no Bs or 17s who do you suggest we replace them with? You're basically implying that because Mannum used 8 points on two players (who wanted to come to Mannum and any club in community football in Australia would have) instead of 2x6 point unknowns they should not be considered for extra points? Hardly logical.

[GWW]

The logic is that using 8 points instead of 6, makes it more difficult to squeeze more recruits in.

[P.B]

I would have thought the logic is using 8 points on two SANFL State Footballers, mulitple league B&F winners and Magarey Medalists as opposed to two 6 point country footballers. Especially when you consider my aforementioned post re engaging the community.

[Pooh Bear]

I was talking to a father of a young lad that was in the fun run on Sunday. His father was over the moon when Sheedy ran with his lad for a short period filling him full of praise and encouragement. That’s community spirit and something money can’t buy for a young lad in today’s world. Is there another club in this league we can discuss or talk about?

[Moleman]

'What they'd be thinking'. Perhaps they are privy to information you are not. Information such as Mannum losing 12+ A Grade, 0 point players in the past two years (9 of which all went to Karoonda). Im sure if you watched Mannum's B Grade last year you would have noticed 5-6 50+ yr olds running around in sneakers due to a lack of numbers. How many U17s did you have last year? We had 5 registered within that age group who are eligible to play either As or Bs this year.

I would also suggest the club's recruitment is much more than a football issue, its a community one. Bringing in Magarey Medalists has generated some great interest amongst juniors in our community and its hoped this will bring more young boys out to Mannum for a kick. That's why the club got involved with the Community Fun Run. You only had to see the young kids running alongside the Mannum players at the start and throughout to see it was successful for all. Not to mention the skateboard ramp that is alongside the oval also.

There would be no fuss if we picked up 2x 3 point players relatively unknown from the Hills league or alike.

"I'm just wondering what they'd be thinking to give Mannum extras." - that implys I am questioning why they would - asking what the criteria is. I doubt the RMFL has made the decision to grant the extra points yet, could be wrong.

Reality is mate, you can get more 3 point players in than 4 point players so if the argument is numbers, wouldn't the RMFL say with your remaining 9 points you can have three but you chose to get two?

I think you think I have a problem with Mannum recruiting and recruiting well but I don't. We'd probably do the same. I know all too well of the problems of numbers, our club in no stranger to a lad playing three grades in a day to get the numbers over the line, or ringing blokes who have never played just to get a team on the park.

In 2011 we recruited our maximum plus and went into an elimination final having to play 5 under 17 kids to get the points down. It was a price we paid just to have enough numbers for two teams for a full year without a point extension. Now we do it all over again.