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Re: SA Premier League Cricket

Postby Pup » Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:30 am

abber wrote:I heard Jamie Cox on 5AA. I thought he was very light on detail. The 6th side thing was very puzzling. Seemed to be some sort of self-funding country squad!!
SACA putting in $300K. Flying sides to Darwin? Not sure how long the $s will last. Would the NT have money to have their side flying here & there?
NTFL could not afford to put a side in the SANFL.


I dont think that is entirely accurate? I was under the impression the NTFL got voted against by the clubs for joining the SANFL.

But thats a moot point for this discussion. I cant see the money or this lasting more than 1/2 years, logistics will be very tough to organise but more details on friday apparently.
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Re: SA Premier League Cricket

Postby on the rails » Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:19 am

Pup wrote:
abber wrote:I heard Jamie Cox on 5AA. I thought he was very light on detail. The 6th side thing was very puzzling. Seemed to be some sort of self-funding country squad!!
SACA putting in $300K. Flying sides to Darwin? Not sure how long the $s will last. Would the NT have money to have their side flying here & there?
NTFL could not afford to put a side in the SANFL.


I dont think that is entirely accurate? I was under the impression the NTFL got voted against by the clubs for joining the SANFL.But thats a moot point for this discussion. I cant see the money or this lasting more than 1/2 years, logistics will be very tough to organise but more details on friday apparently.


It did based on the $$$ implications - it was just way too expensive for the NTFL and also would have added extra pressure to existing SANFL clubs who were stuggling. Less personnel needed re a cricket side along with support staff etc but it will still be an expesnive exercise going up and back from Darwin. $$$ pressures will soon take the gloss of the novelty of having an NT side compete.
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Re: SA Premier League Cricket

Postby Footy Smart » Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:22 am

daysofourlives wrote:
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Would be up to each club committee to decide what happens there.

I know from my club we have forced to use 16 red players to fill our seniors on 1 occasion already this season plus some that are in our sides on a full time basis


yep not having a go mate, just issues that SACA clearly havent thought of plus the many more regarding this set up.

We have only 1 Jnr playing Seniors on a perm/semi perm basis and have senior quad members who miss out on a game

so the situation is different for each club.


Well time for your club to clear out some dead wood to allow juniors to progress to seniors when they are ready not when their age allows it. You should try it, who knows your club might even produce a state cricketer one day and then you might have a tiny little bit of credibility to comment on how to produce better state cricketers


We have one of the youngest Senior Squads going around :oops:

:lol: Trav Head, Jake Habberfield, Jace O Hara( emerging redbacks squad), Tim Davey( emerging redbacks squad), Sean Nottle U17 squad

Stop embarrassing yourself DOOL
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Re: SA Premier League Cricket

Postby heater31 » Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:24 am

As FS stated on here yesterday players are not overly keen on the concept. Heck I even overheard 2 umpires discussing it over a beverage after last night's 20/20 game :shock:
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Re: SA Premier League Cricket

Postby Footy Smart » Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:31 am

heater31 wrote:As FS stated on here yesterday players are not overly keen on the concept. Heck I even overheard 2 umpires discussing it over a beverage after last night's 20/20 game :shock:



Its not the initiative itself its the buy in from the amatuer players that make up the best 44 players in the State. As soon as a few of the best 44 dont want to be involved the comp (As they are late 20 early 30s) the comp gets dilluted and looses credability, once players think they arent a chance they will give up on it. The initiative then becomes pointless.

And DOOL you have a clear hatred for Grade Cricket and the players who play it and no idea of how grade clubs are run and thee majority of the clubs focus in regards to player development. This is clear by your ignorant attack on my club regarding producing state players
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Re: SA Premier League Cricket

Postby Stumps » Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:53 am

we are lucky to have you in this forum FS putting everyone in line and generally just being a legend :shock:
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Re: SA Premier League Cricket

Postby Footy Smart » Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:58 am

Stumps wrote:we are lucky to have you in this forum FS putting everyone in line and generally just being a legend :shock:


correct, this is probably your best contribution to this forum champ

Have I said anything that is incorrect Stumps?
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Re: SA Premier League Cricket

Postby MAY-Z » Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:40 am

Footy Smart wrote:
heater31 wrote:As FS stated on here yesterday players are not overly keen on the concept. Heck I even overheard 2 umpires discussing it over a beverage after last night's 20/20 game :shock:



Its not the initiative itself its the buy in from the amatuer players that make up the best 44 players in the State. As soon as a few of the best 44 dont want to be involved the comp (As they are late 20 early 30s) the comp gets dilluted and looses credability, once players think they arent a chance they will give up on it. The initiative then becomes pointless.
And DOOL you have a clear hatred for Grade Cricket and the players who play it and no idea of how grade clubs are run and thee majority of the clubs focus in regards to player development. This is clear by your ignorant attack on my club regarding producing state players


and how is that different from grade cricket which has hundreds of players playing a grade every week, most of which are no chance of playing state cricket

there must be 44 players interested in playing state cricket, if there isnt we might as well give up now
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Re: SA Premier League Cricket

Postby Footy Smart » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:14 am

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heater31 wrote:As FS stated on here yesterday players are not overly keen on the concept. Heck I even overheard 2 umpires discussing it over a beverage after last night's 20/20 game :shock:



Its not the initiative itself its the buy in from the amatuer players that make up the best 44 players in the State. As soon as a few of the best 44 dont want to be involved the comp (As they are late 20 early 30s) the comp gets dilluted and looses credability, once players think they arent a chance they will give up on it. The initiative then becomes pointless.
And DOOL you have a clear hatred for Grade Cricket and the players who play it and no idea of how grade clubs are run and thee majority of the clubs focus in regards to player development. This is clear by your ignorant attack on my club regarding producing state players


and how is that different from grade cricket which has hundreds of players playing a grade every week, most of which are no chance of playing state cricket

there must be 44 players interested in playing state cricket, if there isnt we might as well give up now


Yes definately mate, but the issue is, is the "best 44" wanting to be part of it and are they wanting to play higher.

Look, there is nothing that can be done about it now its been confirmed. The players will either back the comp in and it will succeed or it will dissapear in a year.... time will tell - whats the best form or reform for cricket in this state? who bl**dy knows :lol:

The grade clubs and the no doubt the players themselves are preparing for the comps arrival

Aslo, i think you will find the 6th side will be the DLCA which will bring over/attract more quality cricketers
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Re: SA Premier League Cricket

Postby Jim05 » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:22 am

Give it a go and see, cant be worse than we already are.
Plenty of guys knocking it but not too many coming up with an alternative.
I do like Hammers idea of a 2 div system but im willing to see how this concept pans out.
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Re: SA Premier League Cricket

Postby heater31 » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:23 am

Not sure the DLCA will be around long term. Apparently since England reached the top 3 Test ranking county clubs are reluctant to send players to Australia
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Re: SA Premier League Cricket

Postby Footy Smart » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:38 am

heater31 wrote:Not sure the DLCA will be around long term. Apparently since England reached the top 3 Test ranking county clubs are reluctant to send players to Australia


True in its current format, however if the players can come and play in an Elite Comp as the premier league is supposed to be, as well as the intense training I think they would encourage better players to come over.
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Re: SA Premier League Cricket

Postby daysofourlives » Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:23 pm

Footy Smart wrote:
heater31 wrote:As FS stated on here yesterday players are not overly keen on the concept. Heck I even overheard 2 umpires discussing it over a beverage after last night's 20/20 game :shock:



Its not the initiative itself its the buy in from the amatuer players that make up the best 44 players in the State. As soon as a few of the best 44 dont want to be involved the comp (As they are late 20 early 30s) the comp gets dilluted and looses credability, once players think they arent a chance they will give up on it. The initiative then becomes pointless.

And DOOL you have a clear hatred for Grade Cricket and the players who play it and no idea of how grade clubs are run and thee majority of the clubs focus in regards to player development. This is clear by your ignorant attack on my club regarding producing state players


I don't hate grade cricket just some grade clubs and their ignorant attitude to the betterment of cricket in this state, yours being one of them, you come on here and beat your chest but your club does nothing for state cricket. You have always had plenty of representation at state junior level but absolutely nothing at senior level.
Prove me wrong and list your state players then. And i mean guys that were successful state players.
You and your club should be embracing any changes as you can't do any worse than you have in the past, shit you might even produce at decent cricketer that you can legitimately beat your chest about.
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Re: SA Premier League Cricket

Postby Footy Smart » Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:46 pm

daysofourlives wrote:
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heater31 wrote:As FS stated on here yesterday players are not overly keen on the concept. Heck I even overheard 2 umpires discussing it over a beverage after last night's 20/20 game :shock:



Its not the initiative itself its the buy in from the amatuer players that make up the best 44 players in the State. As soon as a few of the best 44 dont want to be involved the comp (As they are late 20 early 30s) the comp gets dilluted and looses credability, once players think they arent a chance they will give up on it. The initiative then becomes pointless.

And DOOL you have a clear hatred for Grade Cricket and the players who play it and no idea of how grade clubs are run and thee majority of the clubs focus in regards to player development. This is clear by your ignorant attack on my club regarding producing state players


I don't hate grade cricket just some grade clubs and their ignorant attitude to the betterment of cricket in this state, yours being one of them, you come on here and beat your chest but your club does nothing for state cricket. You have always had plenty of representation at state junior level but absolutely nothing at senior level.
Prove me wrong and list your state players then. And i mean guys that were successful state players.
You and your club should be embracing any changes as you can't do any worse than you have in the past, shit you might even produce at decent cricketer that you can legitimately beat your chest about.


Haha you have obviously been beating something other than your chest to much it’s taken the blood away from your brain
Living in the past but we’ve had Peter McIntyre and Bob Zadow, we have had Ben Cameron who was struck down by injury currently have 2 state contracted players including possibly the best U20 batter in the country, 2 players in the emerging redbacks squad and had plenty of quality cricketers like Wes Thomas, Gary Chillingworth, Trav Borlace etc were around the mark and not given a crack just like many other blokes at other clubs in a similar boat.

We have a huge emphasis on junior development - only take minimal DLCA players in an effort to give the young talent an opportunity to develop at a higher grade, we don’t have 38 yo blokes taking young lads spots and solid coaching staff who plan and implement trainings far beyond when I first started playing seniors – clear pathways mapped for kids to push up the grades and beyond. We could easily have 8 imports like Prospect have in their A grade but what would that be doing for cricket in this state?

If you want to live in the now and reality, you will see the effort made by the board and Ben in developing future cricketers for this state not just TTGDCC.

I suppose it’s hard to see the facts of what is happening currently when you sit bitterly behind a computer and let that hatred of the past cloud your judgement.
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Re: SA Premier League Cricket

Postby whufc » Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:00 pm

In fairness to days,

That's sweet fa in the last ten years who have made it at shield level from your club!
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Re: SA Premier League Cricket

Postby heater31 » Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:09 pm

whufc wrote:In fairness to days,

That's sweet fa in the last ten years who have made it at shield level from your club!


Name blokes at other clubs as well :oops:
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Re: SA Premier League Cricket

Postby whufc » Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:25 pm

heater31 wrote:
whufc wrote:In fairness to days,

That's sweet fa in the last ten years who have made it at shield level from your club!


Name blokes at other clubs as well :oops:


Northern Districts off the top of my head

Ryan Harris
Mark Cosgrove
Graham Manou
Chris Duval
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Re: SA Premier League Cricket

Postby daysofourlives » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:51 pm

McIntyre- Victorian
Zadow- The East Torrens and Salisbury player???

The other blokes you mention were just not good enough, not through lack of opportunity
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Re: SA Premier League Cricket

Postby Stumps » Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:07 pm

Can also add kelby pickering to your list FS (champ) you seem to be clutching at straws a little
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Re: SA Premier League Cricket

Postby daysofourlives » Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:27 pm

Stumps wrote:Can also add kelby pickering to your list FS (champ) you seem to be clutching at straws a little


:lol: Add to that shield stars A.Hammond and M.Kelton, geez this list is getting massive, my bad :roll:
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