Para District Cricket Association 2012/13

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Who Will Play In the Grade 1 GF

Angle Vale
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7%
ATCO
3
3%
Central United
13
13%
Craigmore
2
2%
One Tree Hill
18
19%
Rose & Crown
28
29%
Salisbury West
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27%
Virginia
0
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2012/13

Postby whufc » Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:19 pm

Sorry my stats were well off, in the two years I was captain he took 59 wickets @ 9.97 :shock: and would have missed 6-7 games over the two years

No wonder I rate his bowling

Already has 14 wickets @ 8 this year!!!
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2012/13

Postby Wizard of Oz » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:00 pm

I think Al Hewitt has shown the gap between Grades 1 & 2...Heck there's a gap between the top sides in Grade 1 to the rest....let alone Grades 1 & 2.

With all due respect, Al bowls some classy stuff and is very reliable....but he's taken 7 wickets for the year after dominating Grade 2.

Lets just tone it down a little until he stops beating up on B Grade sides.
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2012/13

Postby whufc » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:03 pm

Wizard of Oz wrote:I think Al Hewitt has shown the gap between Grades 1 & 2...Heck there's a gap between the top sides in Grade 1 to the rest....let alone Grades 1 & 2.

With all due respect, Al bowls some classy stuff and is very reliable....but he's taken 7 wickets for the year after dominating Grade 2.

Lets just tone it down a little until he stops beating up on B Grade sides.


True about Al but I think not having Micky Richards bowling at the other end isn't helping him.

The amount of overs he bowled last year and been another year older would be taking its toll.

I don't think there is much difference between the bottom 4 grade 1 sides and top couple grade 2 sides as Craigmore and Atco are proving.
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2012/13

Postby Wizard of Oz » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:09 pm

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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2012/13

Postby whufc » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:15 pm

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When next will you be out watching a game!

I won't be out and about this weekend due to playing commitments in the game on at Adelaide oval ;)
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2012/13

Postby Thats Gold » Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:33 pm

whufc wrote:
Wizard of Oz wrote:I think Al Hewitt has shown the gap between Grades 1 & 2...Heck there's a gap between the top sides in Grade 1 to the rest....let alone Grades 1 & 2.

With all due respect, Al bowls some classy stuff and is very reliable....but he's taken 7 wickets for the year after dominating Grade 2.

Lets just tone it down a little until he stops beating up on B Grade sides.


True about Al but I think not having Micky Richards bowling at the other end isn't helping him.

The amount of overs he bowled last year and been another year older would be taking its toll.

I don't think there is much difference between the bottom 4 grade 1 sides and top couple grade 2 sides as Craigmore and Atco are proving.

Hewy knew G1 would be a massive challenge. Hes possibly lost a yard of pace and is struggling a little to re-capture his form of the past few seasons but he works hard and is always thinking about his bowling. Also he normally bowls better the longer his spell goes so i dont think the amount of overs he bowled last season is a factor in his slight decline, however a couple of niggles could be? ;)
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2012/13

Postby Lethal Dose » Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:38 pm

Grahaml wrote:I've faced him before, would definitely prefer to face his stuff than Davies. Not saying he can't or won't do it but until you've done it in the top grade there'll always been doubts. We've seen plenty of people have top records in grade 2 and 3 but get found out in grade 1.


Davies is a freak, once in a life time player for local cricket, so you cant chuck his name against frankie, bit unfair to compare. Frankie might not be as quick, but bowls in the right areas and gets movement, the fundamentals to a good bowler, dosent need the express pace. Plus ther blokes a puppy still and from i seen a few years back, has improved hugely, and to have the hitting capabilities he has, will be a future player in grade 1. Give Eastern park 5 years with the same side and they will be a side to fear, for a bunch of young blokes they have talent
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2012/13

Postby whufc » Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:41 pm

Thats Gold wrote:
whufc wrote:
Wizard of Oz wrote:I think Al Hewitt has shown the gap between Grades 1 & 2...Heck there's a gap between the top sides in Grade 1 to the rest....let alone Grades 1 & 2.

With all due respect, Al bowls some classy stuff and is very reliable....but he's taken 7 wickets for the year after dominating Grade 2.

Lets just tone it down a little until he stops beating up on B Grade sides.


True about Al but I think not having Micky Richards bowling at the other end isn't helping him.

The amount of overs he bowled last year and been another year older would be taking its toll.

I don't think there is much difference between the bottom 4 grade 1 sides and top couple grade 2 sides as Craigmore and Atco are proving.

Hewy knew G1 would be a massive challenge. Hes possibly lost a yard of pace and is struggling a little to re-capture his form of the past few seasons but he works hard and is always thinking about his bowling. Also he normally bowls better the longer his spell goes so i dont think the amount of overs he bowled last season is a factor in his slight decline, however a couple of niggles could be? ;)


Agree, Al has been one of my favourite cricketers to play with, I guess my point was I know he had to be managed through last year, if his still doing the same job he has a very physical job and is another year older so people can't expect him to be getting better.

I would imagine he adds shiteloads to side just with his experience and batting.

Ryan Parker is a good example of a bowler making the step up to div 1
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2012/13

Postby Lethal Dose » Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:43 pm

footys the winner wrote:Frankie bowls straight up and down at a gentle pace. Wouldn't trouble batsman in grade 1


So what you need to be lightning quick to bowl in grade 1, not to many technically correct batsman in grade 1, so if you bowl in good areas to a cross bat slog, that means you're shit. Apart from a few stand outs with the bat, grade 2 bowlers can match with most grade 1 batsman, just that salisbury west have made us all look silly over the years and have made the bench mark so high, that anyone that plays grade 1 gets a big head that they are in the big time.
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2012/13

Postby whufc » Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:45 pm

Lethal Dose wrote:
Grahaml wrote:I've faced him before, would definitely prefer to face his stuff than Davies. Not saying he can't or won't do it but until you've done it in the top grade there'll always been doubts. We've seen plenty of people have top records in grade 2 and 3 but get found out in grade 1.


Davies is a freak, once in a life time player for local cricket, so you cant chuck his name against frankie, bit unfair to compare. Frankie might not be as quick, but bowls in the right areas and gets movement, the fundamentals to a good bowler, dosent need the express pace. Plus ther blokes a puppy still and from i seen a few years back, has improved hugely, and to have the hitting capabilities he has, will be a future player in grade 1. Give Eastern park 5 years with the same side and they will be a side to fear, for a bunch of young blokes they have talent


Imagine a switched on and fit Ray Smith, Franky McConnell, Ian Williamson, Binga in 3 years time, will be like the 80,s West Indies attack ;)
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2012/13

Postby Lethal Dose » Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:53 pm

whufc wrote:
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Grahaml wrote:I've faced him before, would definitely prefer to face his stuff than Davies. Not saying he can't or won't do it but until you've done it in the top grade there'll always been doubts. We've seen plenty of people have top records in grade 2 and 3 but get found out in grade 1.


Davies is a freak, once in a life time player for local cricket, so you cant chuck his name against frankie, bit unfair to compare. Frankie might not be as quick, but bowls in the right areas and gets movement, the fundamentals to a good bowler, dosent need the express pace. Plus ther blokes a puppy still and from i seen a few years back, has improved hugely, and to have the hitting capabilities he has, will be a future player in grade 1. Give Eastern park 5 years with the same side and they will be a side to fear, for a bunch of young blokes they have talent


Imagine a switched on and fit Ray Smith, Franky McConnell, Ian Williamson, Binga in 3 years time, will be like the 80,s West Indies attack ;)


Even young Andrews in your B grade is a decent on the spot bowler. Be even scarier if you got a fit and ready to go Kenny McConnell playing, now he had pace?
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2012/13

Postby Wizard of Oz » Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:06 pm

Justin Davies is the best bowler in the competition by a long way... However the bloke that bowls down the other end is quite handy too with nearly 400 wickets.

But lets get one thing straight... Justin, whilst brisk at times, is not quick. There are no quicks in this comp anymore. Justin's strengths are his discipline, line and length and movement both ways. And as he hits hit late 20's he'll be even better...He's past 200 wickets at only 21.

Westies have had some good ones over the years with Glen North and Robbie Drake featuring prominently. Now Glen North...he was quick.
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2012/13

Postby footys the winner » Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:11 pm

Wizard of Oz wrote:Justin Davies is the best bowler in the competition by a long way... However the bloke that bowls down the other end is quite handy too with nearly 400 wickets.

But lets get one thing straight... Justin, whilst brisk at times, is not quick. There are no quicks in this comp anymore. Justin's strengths are his discipline, line and length and movement both ways. And as he hits hit late 20's he'll be even better...He's past 200 wickets at only 21.


Westies have had some good ones over the years with Glen North and Robbie Drake featuring prominently. Now Glen North...he was quick.



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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2012/13

Postby Lethal Dose » Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:18 pm

Wizard of Oz wrote:Justin Davies is the best bowler in the competition by a long way... However the bloke that bowls down the other end is quite handy too with nearly 400 wickets.

But lets get one thing straight... Justin, whilst brisk at times, is not quick. There are no quicks in this comp anymore. Justin's strengths are his discipline, line and length and movement both ways. And as he hits hit late 20's he'll be even better...He's past 200 wickets at only 21.

Westies have had some good ones over the years with Glen North and Robbie Drake featuring prominently. Now Glen North...he was quick.


Johnny and Justin would be the best tandem bowling attack ive ever seen, and thats from someone who didnt play in the 90's so i cant go back that far. Thats Why justin is a good bowler, not from pace but his line and length your right Oz. The one thing i really admire from your club is the professionalism, we played you boys about 3 years back at smithfield and i reckon not one loose shot was played you blokes just took the singles and picked off the bad balls, and when the innings was over i thought maybe we might have a shot here, thought 180 max, but you guys end up making 240 i reckon, and i thought to myself thats just class, didnt need to smack it around, just kept partnerships going and rotated the strike regurlary.
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2012/13

Postby norm11 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:20 pm

Wizard of Oz wrote:Justin Davies is the best bowler in the competition by a long way... However the bloke that bowls down the other end is quite handy too with nearly 400 wickets.

But lets get one thing straight... Justin, whilst brisk at times, is not quick. There are no quicks in this comp anymore. Justin's strengths are his discipline, line and length and movement both ways. And as he hits hit late 20's he'll be even better...He's past 200 wickets at only 21.

Westies have had some good ones over the years with Glen North and Robbie Drake featuring prominently. Now Glen North...he was quick.

Yes wizard glen was very quick
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2012/13

Postby Wizard of Oz » Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:27 pm

Lethal Dose wrote:
Wizard of Oz wrote:Justin Davies is the best bowler in the competition by a long way... However the bloke that bowls down the other end is quite handy too with nearly 400 wickets.

But lets get one thing straight... Justin, whilst brisk at times, is not quick. There are no quicks in this comp anymore. Justin's strengths are his discipline, line and length and movement both ways. And as he hits hit late 20's he'll be even better...He's past 200 wickets at only 21.

Westies have had some good ones over the years with Glen North and Robbie Drake featuring prominently. Now Glen North...he was quick.


Johnny and Justin would be the best tandem bowling attack ive ever seen, and thats from someone who didnt play in the 90's so i cant go back that far. Thats Why justin is a good bowler, not from pace but his line and length your right Oz. The one thing i really admire from your club is the professionalism, we played you boys about 3 years back at smithfield and i reckon not one loose shot was played you blokes just took the singles and picked off the bad balls, and when the innings was over i thought maybe we might have a shot here, thought 180 max, but you guys end up making 240 i reckon, and i thought to myself thats just class, didnt need to smack it around, just kept partnerships going and rotated the strike regurlary.


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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2012/13

Postby FroffiesMcVeigh » Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:29 pm

norm11 wrote:
Wizard of Oz wrote:Justin Davies is the best bowler in the competition by a long way... However the bloke that bowls down the other end is quite handy too with nearly 400 wickets.

But lets get one thing straight... Justin, whilst brisk at times, is not quick. There are no quicks in this comp anymore. Justin's strengths are his discipline, line and length and movement both ways. And as he hits hit late 20's he'll be even better...He's past 200 wickets at only 21.

Westies have had some good ones over the years with Glen North and Robbie Drake featuring prominently. Now Glen North...he was quick.

Yes wizard glen was very quick

Chris Hughes is the best bowler I have seen in my short life... He was quick, aggressive and arrogant. I can remember him taking wickets and running over to where the other team were sitting and yelling "keep them coming"
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2012/13

Postby howzat » Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:32 pm

Wizard of Oz wrote:Justin Davies is the best bowler in the competition by a long way... However the bloke that bowls down the other end is quite handy too with nearly 400 wickets.

But lets get one thing straight... Justin, whilst brisk at times, is not quick. There are no quicks in this comp anymore. Justin's strengths are his discipline, line and length and movement both ways. And as he hits hit late 20's he'll be even better...He's past 200 wickets at only 21.

Westies have had some good ones over the years with Glen North and Robbie Drake featuring prominently. Now Glen North...he was quick.


hey oz i have never had the chance to play div 1 m8 but i tell you one thing glen north bent his back to me last year and was still very sharp and a top bloke to boot....
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2012/13

Postby Grahaml » Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:36 pm

Wizard of Oz wrote:Justin Davies is the best bowler in the competition by a long way... However the bloke that bowls down the other end is quite handy too with nearly 400 wickets.

But lets get one thing straight... Justin, whilst brisk at times, is not quick. There are no quicks in this comp anymore. Justin's strengths are his discipline, line and length and movement both ways. And as he hits hit late 20's he'll be even better...He's past 200 wickets at only 21.

Westies have had some good ones over the years with Glen North and Robbie Drake featuring prominently. Now Glen North...he was quick.


At 13.5 and apart from a couple of games all in grade 1.

I've heard some say Dave Kershaw was a better bowler than Johnny or Rob Drake. Davies definitely not a once in a lifetime bowler, though. Perhaps by current standards it's hard to see where someone as good as him will come along, but I bet Oz will say the top 10 PDCA bowlers from the last 20 years are all around his standard or better.
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2012/13

Postby Wizard of Oz » Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:37 pm

FroffiesMcVeigh wrote:
norm11 wrote:
Wizard of Oz wrote:Justin Davies is the best bowler in the competition by a long way... However the bloke that bowls down the other end is quite handy too with nearly 400 wickets.

But lets get one thing straight... Justin, whilst brisk at times, is not quick. There are no quicks in this comp anymore. Justin's strengths are his discipline, line and length and movement both ways. And as he hits hit late 20's he'll be even better...He's past 200 wickets at only 21.

Westies have had some good ones over the years with Glen North and Robbie Drake featuring prominently. Now Glen North...he was quick.

Yes wizard glen was very quick

Chris Hughes is the best bowler I have seen in my short life... He was quick, aggressive and arrogant. I can remember him taking wickets and running over to where the other team were sitting and yelling "keep them coming"


Played C's and B's at Salisbury West... Didn't think he was that sharp. He obviously improved but he had no control...
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