SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

[moses]

Funny you say that OBB.. I seen him last Friday, and he told me the reason he turned down playing at R&C and went back to CM was to play in the carnival because herder had told him he is an automatic selection...

Incorrect.

Nobody is an "automatic selection". All spots are up for grabs. All players are welcome to come out to trainings. Our strongest squad will be chosen from those who are available. These are the facts that people need to deal with.

Yes, I have spoken to PW, but what was quoted by yourself was not within the content of the conversation. And yes, he, along with any other registered C&CCA player, is welcome to attend the trainings.

Wright wouldn't make Rose Park's strongest team. Period.

I'll help u GH as this is my association team Mark II
in batting order

T.Hodson
S.Neal
J.Smith
A.MacDonald
A.Wehrman
P.Atkins
D.Andrews
B.Reidy
J.Clark
R.Zuliamis
A.Gully
12th A.Balding
13th I.Henderson

[Phantom Gossiper]

FWIW I think he is a more than capable cricketer, i'm just frustrated at him constantly wanting to hide in the slums of churches and not actually test himself.. could've gone to Enfield if he wanted to play in the carnival and at least played Div 1..

[Phantom Gossiper]

I'll help u GH as this is my association team Mark II
in batting order

T.Hodson
S.Neal
J.Smith
A.MacDonald
A.Wehrman
P.Atkins
D.Andrews
B.Reidy
J.Clark
R.Zuliamis
A.Gully
12th A.Balding
13th I.Henderson

Arguably.. the OLDEST side ever assembled.. EVER!

[Phantom Gossiper]

What about young McLeod for the carnival side for the experience.. ??

[moses]

Funny you say that OBB.. I seen him last Friday, and he told me the reason he turned down playing at R&C and went back to CM was to play in the carnival because herder had told him he is an automatic selection...

Incorrect.

Nobody is an "automatic selection". All spots are up for grabs. All players are welcome to come out to trainings. Our strongest squad will be chosen from those who are available. These are the facts that people need to deal with.

Yes, I have spoken to PW, but what was quoted by yourself was not within the content of the conversation. And yes, he, along with any other registered C&CCA player, is welcome to attend the trainings.

How will you pick the team GH, results so far this season so you take blokes in form or just go by names of guys and what they could do and who they are?
Not trying to be smart just wondering.

[Goat Herder]

How will you pick the team GH, results so far this season so you take blokes in form or just go by names of guys and what they could do and who they are?
Not trying to be smart just wondering.

First of all, I think you could've snuck a few more RP names into your 13...

More than happy to have a crack at answering your question mate. I have some base criteria that need to be ticked off before consideration for selection is even thought about ;

a) No knobs.
b) No self-gratifying peanuts who can't gel in a no-knob team environment.

Provided those two boxes are ticked, consideration will be given based on form, both within C&CCA and from previous representative matches. That's certainly not to say that everyone who has rep'd C&CCA has a leg up on anyone else, as all teams are chosen from those who are available, but proven form and ability in Carnival and inter-Association matches is testament that a player can rise to compete and have an impact at the next level. Performances in big (C&CCA) matches also counts, in my opinion. Rest assured, I will compile the best Xlll from the players who make themselves available and I will be accountable and responsible for the side selected, and make no bones about it in the process.

There's no doubt in my mind that if we manage to obtain representation of the best of the best of what C&CCA has to offer that we would without a doubt give the title a solid nudge, but we all know that flying our very best Xlll to Melbourne on Boxing Day is highly unlikely.

If it makes a difference, we will be flying back on New Year's Eve this time around rather than early New Year's Day, very tired and slightly 'emotional'...

[Easy Miss]

How will you pick the team GH, results so far this season so you take blokes in form or just go by names of guys and what they could do and who they are?
Not trying to be smart just wondering.

First of all, I think you could've snuck a few more RP names into your 13...

More than happy to have a crack at answering your question mate. I have some base criteria that need to be ticked off before consideration for selection is even thought about ;

a) No knobs.
b) No self-gratifying peanuts who can't gel in a no-knob team environment.

Provided those two boxes are ticked, consideration will be given based on form, both within C&CCA and from previous representative matches. That's certainly not to say that everyone who has rep'd C&CCA has a leg up on anyone else, as all teams are chosen from those who are available, but proven form and ability in Carnival and inter-Association matches is testament that a player can rise to compete and have an impact at the next level. Performances in big (C&CCA) matches also counts, in my opinion. Rest assured, I will compile the best Xlll from the players who make themselves available and I will be accountable and responsible for the side selected, and make no bones about it in the process.

There's no doubt in my mind that if we manage to obtain representation of the best of the best of what C&CCA has to offer that we would without a doubt give the title a solid nudge, but we all know that flying our very best Xlll to Melbourne on Boxing Day is highly unlikely.

If it makes a difference, we will be flying back on New Year's Eve this time around rather than early New Year's Day, very tired and slightly 'emotional'...

I'll help you out GH. Here is your squad from the last carnival

S.Holland
J.Smith
T.Hodson
A.MacDonald
M.Sandford
J.Borgas
M.Cossens
T.Rolling
M.Spry
A.Gully
B.Tarca
P.Wright
D.Frick

[moses]

How will you pick the team GH, results so far this season so you take blokes in form or just go by names of guys and what they could do and who they are?
Not trying to be smart just wondering.

First of all, I think you could've snuck a few more RP names into your 13...

More than happy to have a crack at answering your question mate. I have some base criteria that need to be ticked off before consideration for selection is even thought about ;

a) No knobs.
b) No self-gratifying peanuts who can't gel in a no-knob team environment.

Provided those two boxes are ticked, consideration will be given based on form, both within C&CCA and from previous representative matches. That's certainly not to say that everyone who has rep'd C&CCA has a leg up on anyone else, as all teams are chosen from those who are available, but proven form and ability in Carnival and inter-Association matches is testament that a player can rise to compete and have an impact at the next level. Performances in big (C&CCA) matches also counts, in my opinion. Rest assured, I will compile the best Xlll from the players who make themselves available and I will be accountable and responsible for the side selected, and make no bones about it in the process.

There's no doubt in my mind that if we manage to obtain representation of the best of the best of what C&CCA has to offer that we would without a doubt give the title a solid nudge, but we all know that flying our very best Xlll to Melbourne on Boxing Day is highly unlikely.

If it makes a difference, we will be flying back on New Year's Eve this time around rather than early New Year's Day, very tired and slightly 'emotional'...

I'll help you out GH. Here is your squad from the last carnival

S.Holland
J.Smith
T.Hodson
A.MacDonald
M.Sandford
J.Borgas
M.Cossens
T.Rolling
M.Spry
A.Gully
B.Tarca
P.Wright
D.Frick

Blokes in Red i would leave out

Sounds like you are all over it GH, i only picked my team on what guys are doing now or over the last couple of seasons. Which players from Rose Park have i mentioned that wouldnt cut the mustard?

[Goat Herder]

I'll help you out GH. Here is your squad from the last carnival

S.Holland
J.Smith
T.Hodson
A.MacDonald
M.Sandford
J.Borgas
M.Cossens
T.Rolling
M.Spry
A.Gully
B.Tarca
P.Wright
D.Frick

This Carnival's squad will be far different I'm tippin'. Cossens no longer available for Carnivals (and no longer keeping). Roling is in Sydney and not playing in C&CCA. Frick has hardly rolled the arm over in a game as yet. Included in that squad (out of necessity at the time) were 4 young 'project' players. Borgas went on to claim the Div 1 batting aggregate last year. Sandford notched up a 65 as an opener in a 130-run 2nd wickety stand with Smith. Spry didn't get a great deal of playing time but performed reasonably well in limited opportunities and Roling was probably the best U21 player across all 6 sides in Sydney 2010.

I'm a big fan of giving a young lad a crack, but he must deserve & command a spot first & foremost. Once again, the best squad of Xlll will be chosen from the players available, which we won't know exactly who those blokes are until we're a few weeks into training. If I could look into my crystal ball though, I think that the squad we assemble in 2012 will be stronger (on paper) than the 2010 squad. Time will tell though..

[Goat Herder]

S.Holland
J.Smith
T.Hodson
A.MacDonald
M.Sandford
J.Borgas
M.Cossens
T.Rolling
M.Spry
A.Gully
B.Tarca
P.Wright
D.Frick

Blokes in Red i would leave out

Sounds like you are all over it GH, i only picked my team on what guys are doing now or over the last couple of seasons. Which players from Rose Park have i mentioned that wouldnt cut the mustard?

As for your question at the end, I never said any of them wouldn't cut the mustard. Where is 'MRZ'??

I appreciate & respect that everyone has an opinion on what the squad should look like. I've no doubt that some ppl will have gripes with some of the final Xlll and that's life. I will point out, however, that a certain A.Gully racked up a 6-fa against NSW in 2010 and personally dismembered a highly credentialled ATCA side in February this year, including several quality ex-Grade batsmen, claiming 5-fa in the process. Just saying though....

Who would you instill as the keeper of the SA side, mo'?

[Phantom Gossiper]

More than happy to have a crack at answering your question mate. I have some base criteria that need to be ticked off before consideration for selection is even thought about ;

a) No knobs.
b) No self-gratifying peanuts who can't gel in a no-knob team environment.

Pfft i played in a couple of carnivals and i dont pass either of those criteria

[Phantom Gossiper]

A.Gully
Blokes in Red i would leave out

Gully would be one of the first blokes i would pick, without a second thought!

[Goat Herder]

More than happy to have a crack at answering your question mate. I have some base criteria that need to be ticked off before consideration for selection is even thought about ;

a) No knobs.
b) No self-gratifying peanuts who can't gel in a no-knob team environment.

Pfft i played in a couple of carnivals and i dont pass either of those criteria

True, but we just had to fill a 2nd side in 2006. Even Summo and Izzo got a cap. 2008 was just to see if 2006 was a fluke or not..

[Phantom Gossiper]

True, but we just had to fill a 2nd side in 2006. Even Summo and Izzo got a cap. 2008 was just to see if 2006 was a fluke or not..

touche'!

[Phantom Gossiper]

Still gives me a giggle to think back then i thought i was a batsman.. now i get excited if i bat higher than 11

[Goat Herder]

Still gives me a giggle to think back then i thought i was a batsman.. now i get excited if i bat higher than 11

As we evolve in the game mate, it's important to reinvent yourself...

[moses]

From what i saw Saturday, Gully will be at the Chiropractor for the next couple of months getting his neck put back into place after watching Grub smash his bowling. Guess you are only as good as your last over which i believe was 18 runs?

[moses]

S.Holland
J.Smith
T.Hodson
A.MacDonald
M.Sandford
J.Borgas
M.Cossens
T.Rolling
M.Spry
A.Gully
B.Tarca
P.Wright
D.Frick

Blokes in Red i would leave out

Sounds like you are all over it GH, i only picked my team on what guys are doing now or over the last couple of seasons. Which players from Rose Park have i mentioned that wouldnt cut the mustard?

As for your question at the end, I never said any of them wouldn't cut the mustard. Where is 'MRZ'??

I appreciate & respect that everyone has an opinion on what the squad should look like. I've no doubt that some ppl will have gripes with some of the final Xlll and that's life. I will point out, however, that a certain A.Gully racked up a 6-fa against NSW in 2010 and personally dismembered a highly credentialled ATCA side in February this year, including several quality ex-Grade batsmen, claiming 5-fa in the process. Just saying though....

Who would you instill as the keeper of the SA side, mo'?

Not sure on the keeper as yet mate as i haven't seen enough games at the moment to see who is in form. I think the Keeper from Seaton would be good, can bat as well. His name escapes me?

[Phantom Gossiper]

From what i saw Saturday, Gully will be at the Chiropractor for the next couple of months getting his neck put back into place after watching Grub smash his bowling. Guess you are only as good as your last over which i believe was 18 runs?

In fairness to Gully, from all reports anyone would've copped the same, and also he is a bit of a lone ranger in that side - put him in a better bowling side where he can bowl in partnerships and I think he would prosper.

Hard for him now when he bowls tight and blokes at the other end continue to leak runs.

i remember the year he took 49 wickets, back when he wasn't the only bowler Enny had..

[Goat Herder]

Not sure on the keeper as yet mate as i haven't seen enough games at the moment to see who is in form. I think the Keeper from Seaton would be good, can bat as well. His name escapes me?

Adam Harris is the lad you're thinking of. Definitely in the mix for selection if he's interested and available.

Also agree with Bedgie (can't believe I said that... , you'd have to agree that Wehrmann is one of the in-form bats of Div 1 and the ability to be quite destructive, and him swinging at anything he can reach whilst chasing an outright is hardly indicative of Gully's ability. Pretty hard to bowl to slappers on hard-wicket when they're in that mood. Fair to say Wehrmann wouldn't be quite as 'enterprising' under far different game circumstances. And also fair to say that won't be the last over Gulls bowls before the Carny..