Grade Cricket

[Tony Clifton]

How bout just bowl the overs in the alloted time? Problem solved

Absolutely.

Not up to the umpires to hurry skippers along either and remind them of the rules either.

Staying up with the over-rate is 100% the captain's domain. The umpires are there to ask if you need to know where you're at.

[Tiger Couple]

Wouldn't the time come down to the Umpires anyway not what the scorers have put down. The Umpirez always write down the start and finish times.

[Bluedemon]

What was the final outcome with the verdict on the West Torrens loss?

[Shark_Hunter]

What was the final outcome with the verdict on the West Torrens loss?

No decision yet. It may take a while. They need statements from the umps and both clubs and then need to get the Bylaws committee together to review the situation. Could drag on into next week yet.

[bulldogproud2]

Wouldn't the time come down to the Umpires anyway not what the scorers have put down. The Umpirez always write down the start and finish times.

Correct, but the umpires were 13 minutes out in their initial calculations. They forgot that play went until 6:03pm on the first day, thinking that it was 6:00pm. They also forgot it was a 30 minute lunch break, recording it as 40.

If the scorers did not alert the umpires to these facts, West Torrens would have faced no penalties for slow over rates and would have won the match clearly.

Cheers

[bulldogproud2]

Yes, the computer that the ND scorer was using said 276 minutes but we calculated it manually at 277 minutes. Unfortunately, my computer was not working - teething problems with the new system.
This one minute difference would not normally be a problem but, in this case, does make the significant difference to the result.
It is not an error by the scorers in any way but one simply of the way things are recorded. We record things to the nearest minute (for instance, if the match commenced at 11:00 and 29 seconds, we would record it as 11:00am), whilst the computer would calculate to the second. This timing difference would occur at six stages a day - the beginning and end of each session. It is technically possible therefore for a discrepancy of three minutes a day to occur between a manual calculation and a computer calculation (up to 30 seconds each instance).

Cheers

P.S. A horrible way for a match to be decided. I wish they would just take points off for slow over rates, not runs. Perhaps take 2 points off for every over you are behind.

How bout just bowl the overs in the alloted time? Problem solved

When was the last time that happened at Test level???
Even after the extra half hour of play they are generally behind. They are also allowed four minutes per over whilst it is only 3.75 minutes at Grade level.

[bloods08]

There is no excuse for not bowling your overs in the allotted time.

Went to the East Torrens v Sturt game and on the first day they bowled their overs by 5.30 (1/2 hr early) and that was also including 13 wickets.

[Shark_Hunter]

So today Glenelg’s bowl 54.2 overs in 236 minutes. Minus 18 mins for the nine wickets, they should have received a three over penalty but received zero. So this rule is obviously discretionary now?

[Dogwatcher]

SACA wrap - Brown and Cooper on fire:

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[Jetters]

Premier league next season.

No D grade.

[Power From Port]

Premier league next season.

No D grade.

Source?

[smac]

Thanks Christ for that.

[The Hound]

Premier league next season.

No D grade.

Premier League still needs some work done to get passed the Board

[abber]

Interesting if Premier league was say a 4 team competition who would you think would get in from each club at the moment?

Adelaide
Adelaide Uni
East Torrens
Glenelg
Kensington
Northern Districts
Port Adelaide
Prospect
Southern District
Sturt
Tea Tree Gully
West Torrens
Woodville

[Jetters]

Interesting if Premier league was say a 4 team competition who would you think would get in from each club at the moment?

Adelaide
Adelaide Uni
East Torrens
Glenelg
Kensington
Northern Districts
Port Adelaide
Prospect
Southern District
Sturt
Tea Tree Gully
West Torrens
Woodville

Teams would be split into zones of 3 (1x4) clubs

So all depends on how they are divvied up

[Aerie]

I typed this in another thread, but just copying here.

Perhaps a solution to Grade Cricket that doesn't force clubs to merge into a Premier League or abandon is to only have 8 A Grade teams (say the top 8 from the prior season) and the other 5 play B Grade as the highest level. Grand Finalists in B Grade get promoted if their club isn't already in A Grade.

i.e. based on last years ladder position you'd have the competition structured:

A Grade (8 clubs)
Woodville, West Torrens, Kensington, Sturt, Tea Tree Gully, Adelaide, Prospect, Northern Districts

B Grade (13 clubs consisting of 5 1st XI teams + 8 2nd XI teams)
Port Adelaide (A's), Glenelg (A's), Southern District (A's), East Torrens (A's), University (A's), Woodville (B's), West Torrens (B's), Kensington (B's), Sturt (B's), Tea Tree Gully (B's), Adelaide (B's), Prospect (B's), Northern Districts (B's)

C Grade (13 clubs as per B Grade)

D Grade (Optional - nominations at start of season based on club needs)

If the B Grade Grand Finalists in the example above were Port and Glenelg they would both go up and replace the bottom two A Grade sides for next season.

If the B Grade Grand Finalists in the example above were Port and Sturt, Port would go up and only the bottom A Grade team would be relegated.

If the B Grade Grand Finalists both already had teams in A Grade there would be no change.

This should make the A Grade stronger as the good players would want to be playing A Grade so may see more inter-club transfers. The B Grade would definitely be stronger and have more meaning as this is where clubs have an opportunity to be promoted. The D Grade would be used only if clubs wanted it. I'd imagine the stronger clubs would want a D Grade to have depth through the club, but those clubs that are struggling each week to fill the numbers aren't forced to have a D Grade side.

[cheetah]

Please is there any tough middle order batsman in grade cricket! The redbacks need you for 4 days! I live in the country who is are next lot of talent!

[Jetters]

I typed this in another thread, but just copying here.

Perhaps a solution to Grade Cricket that doesn't force clubs to merge into a Premier League or abandon is to only have 8 A Grade teams (say the top 8 from the prior season) and the other 5 play B Grade as the highest level. Grand Finalists in B Grade get promoted if their club isn't already in A Grade.

i.e. based on last years ladder position you'd have the competition structured:

A Grade (8 clubs)
Woodville, West Torrens, Kensington, Sturt, Tea Tree Gully, Adelaide, Prospect, Northern Districts

B Grade (13 clubs consisting of 5 1st XI teams + 8 2nd XI teams)
Port Adelaide (A's), Glenelg (A's), Southern District (A's), East Torrens (A's), University (A's), Woodville (B's), West Torrens (B's), Kensington (B's), Sturt (B's), Tea Tree Gully (B's), Adelaide (B's), Prospect (B's), Northern Districts (B's)

C Grade (13 clubs as per B Grade)

D Grade (Optional - nominations at start of season based on club needs)

If the B Grade Grand Finalists in the example above were Port and Glenelg they would both go up and replace the bottom two A Grade sides for next season.

If the B Grade Grand Finalists in the example above were Port and Sturt, Port would go up and only the bottom A Grade team would be relegated.

If the B Grade Grand Finalists both already had teams in A Grade there would be no change.

This should make the A Grade stronger as the good players would want to be playing A Grade so may see more inter-club transfers. The B Grade would definitely be stronger and have more meaning as this is where clubs have an opportunity to be promoted. The D Grade would be used only if clubs wanted it. I'd imagine the stronger clubs would want a D Grade to have depth through the club, but those clubs that are struggling each week to fill the numbers aren't forced to have a D Grade side.

Nah

[Shark_Hunter]

WT protest for the ND game has been declined. Some of the reasoning behind the decision was questionable but WT have said they will accept the decision and get on with the season. Still think this rule needs to be looked at.

On another note, Crosthwaite made 170 runs over the two innings vs Glenelg, only being dismissed once. Does anyone think he has a chance of picking up the Strikers keeping gig if he can keep this form going?

[C Horse]

Pretty sure if he doesn't get it, he won't be playing too many more games for West Torrens.