Para District Cricket Association 2012/13

[Tee Off]

True about the decisions lol. Though I was referring to div 1 in regards to the second umpire as they do in turf. By no means am I taking anything away from the lower grades however as div 1 is the premier grade you'd assume they'd get priority of a second ump.. As for costs etc, perhaps only grade 1 players fork out a little extra for the privilage!? As for how you get the extra coin from them is another issue for individual clubs to work out I guess!?

ATCA is a far bigger comp, with greater numbers, $$ and resources.

Getting players to pay extra for a 2nd umpire would never happen, as with all sports, clubs struggle to get fees paid in full and on time from players, so by adding an extra cost you can guarantee the clubs would end up having to pick up the bill.

Not only that, but is it fair to ask a bloke called into div 1 for 1 week to fill a hole who will not bowl and bat 11 to chip in some $$ for an umpire?

I certainly understand that turf's a bigger comp but don't think that resources necessarily has anything to do with it. Could just be a simple case of adding $5 or $10 bux to fees in that case which removes the 'fill in' issue you talk of..

[Phantom Gossiper]

I certainly understand that turf's a bigger comp but don't think that resources necessarily has anything to do with it. Could just be a simple case of adding $5 or $10 bux to fees in that case which removes the 'fill in' issue you talk of..

Resources include umpires..

You're looking at an approx additional cost of $1,260 per club per season, for a club like R&C or SW who have a large number of registered players, the cost most likely could be absorbed into the fees for an extra $20 per season there abouts, but for clubs with less registered players that cost is ultimately going to be greater.

I would suggest limiting the umpires in the lower grades and having two umpires in Grade 1 and then filter down what is left, but in all seriousness is it really an issue? With the exception of the odd no ball or close run out/stumping, how much issues do we have with officiating ourselves at square leg?

[Lightning McQueen]

What are the costs of rego/ ball fee's for all you guys?

[Phantom Gossiper]

What are the costs of rego/ ball fee's for all you guys?

I believe the commoners pay a set cost of $170 for rego at R&C? I dont pay fee's - im black, government can pay that

It's pretty cheap really considering players aren't slugged for the umpires or ball fees, the club relies a lot on the support it gets back to the club and the hundreds of dollars i spend on booze and food every week

[Tee Off]

I certainly understand that turf's a bigger comp but don't think that resources necessarily has anything to do with it. Could just be a simple case of adding $5 or $10 bux to fees in that case which removes the 'fill in' issue you talk of..

Resources include umpires..

You're looking at an approx additional cost of $1,260 per club per season, for a club like R&C or SW who have a large number of registered players, the cost most likely could be absorbed into the fees for an extra $20 per season there abouts, but for clubs with less registered players that cost is ultimately going to be greater.

I would suggest limiting the umpires in the lower grades and having two umpires in Grade 1 and then filter down what is left, but in all seriousness is it really an issue? With the exception of the odd no ball or close run out/stumping, how much issues do we have with officiating ourselves at square leg?

At the end of the day $20 extra per year isn't exactly going to make a huge difference if that's the case. I agree about what you said in regards to the 'filter down' part which is of coarse another option. And going on others opinions regarding the square leg ump there's obviously some concern hence my own opinion..

[Phantom Gossiper]

And going on others opinions regarding the square leg ump there's obviously some concern hence my own opinion..

each to their own.. even if their opinion is wrong

[Grahaml]

Seems unfair to me to ask guys in lower grades to pay an extra $20 for grade 1 to have a second umpire while they get none. B, C, D, E grade players aren't cash cows to milk for 1 side to have luxuries. There is far more of a need for 1 official in lower grades than a second for grade 1.

[Tee Off]

And going on others opinions regarding the square leg ump there's obviously some concern hence my own opinion..

each to their own.. even if their opinion is wrong

I would expect nothing less from you

[the wizard]

i c where the hanson name is set to continue in pdca with shanes boy set to debut for eastern park friday night,bit of a gun to from what ive heard

[bagster]

Seems unfair to me to ask guys in lower grades to pay an extra $20 for grade 1 to have a second umpire while they get none. B, C, D, E grade players aren't cash cows to milk for 1 side to have luxuries. There is far more of a need for 1 official in lower grades than a second for grade 1.

Totally agree.... its the lower grades that have the new player to the game, youngsters and some players who maybe struggle a bit, they need umpires, if your GRADE 1 players cant stand at sq leg in grade 1 and do a competent , fair job for 10 overs... then they shouldnt be playing the game, go home and play xbox..

[duck-mann]

Seems unfair to me to ask guys in lower grades to pay an extra $20 for grade 1 to have a second umpire while they get none. B, C, D, E grade players aren't cash cows to milk for 1 side to have luxuries. There is far more of a need for 1 official in lower grades than a second for grade 1.

Totally agree.... its the lower grades that have the new player to the game, youngsters and some players who maybe struggle a bit, they need umpires, if your GRADE 1 players cant stand at sq leg in grade 1 and do a competent , fair job for 10 overs... then they shouldnt be playing the game, go home and play xbox..

I agree with both of these comment.everyone playing grade one has a competitive nature, everyone wants to win but if you can't do it by playing by the rules then you don't deserve to be there!

As for mistakes, whether they affect the result or not, human error is part of the game.

[FroffiesMcVeigh]

Seems unfair to me to ask guys in lower grades to pay an extra $20 for grade 1 to have a second umpire while they get none. B, C, D, E grade players aren't cash cows to milk for 1 side to have luxuries. There is far more of a need for 1 official in lower grades than a second for grade 1.

Totally agree.... its the lower grades that have the new player to the game, youngsters and some players who maybe struggle a bit, they need umpires, if your GRADE 1 players cant stand at sq leg in grade 1 and do a competent , fair job for 10 overs... then they shouldnt be playing the game, go home and play xbox..

I agree with both of these comment.everyone playing grade one has a competitive nature, everyone wants to win but if you can't do it by playing by the rules then you don't deserve to be there!

As for mistakes, whether they affect the result or not, human error is part of the game.

^ Virginia...

[Grahaml]

Seems unfair to me to ask guys in lower grades to pay an extra $20 for grade 1 to have a second umpire while they get none. B, C, D, E grade players aren't cash cows to milk for 1 side to have luxuries. There is far more of a need for 1 official in lower grades than a second for grade 1.

Totally agree.... its the lower grades that have the new player to the game, youngsters and some players who maybe struggle a bit, they need umpires, if your GRADE 1 players cant stand at sq leg in grade 1 and do a competent , fair job for 10 overs... then they shouldnt be playing the game, go home and play xbox..

I agree with both of these comment.everyone playing grade one has a competitive nature, everyone wants to win but if you can't do it by playing by the rules then you don't deserve to be there!

As for mistakes, whether they affect the result or not, human error is part of the game.

^ Virginia...

And where has it gotten them?

[Lightning McQueen]

^ Virginia...

And where has it gotten them?

Mr Fieldhouse put Smithfield into Grade 2 by being a cheat.

[Phantom Gossiper]

^ Virginia...

And where has it gotten them?

Mr Fieldhouse put Smithfield into Grade 2 by being a cheat.

That's a big call son.. BIIIG CALL.. wait into grade 2 from Grade 3 or down from Grade 1?

I think only managing to win 7 games out of 28 in two seasons of Grade 1 might've had something to do with it..

[Lightning McQueen]

Mr Fieldhouse put Smithfield into Grade 2 by being a cheat.

That's a big call son.. BIIIG CALL.. wait into grade 2 from Grade 3 or down from Grade 1?

I think only managing to win 7 games out of 28 in two seasons of Grade 1 might've had something to do with it..

We were hitting some good form, that 6 points would've put us 5th in the end. At the end of the day you are right but I think you should stop making sense and let us have ur whinge.

[Lightning McQueen]

And while I'm at it, if Terry had of given Russell out when he was absolutely plumb in front, hit on the toe when he hadn't scored we would've beaten you guys in round 1 too, deplorable decision.

[Lucky For Some]

And while I'm at it, if Terry had of given Russell out when he was absolutely plumb in front, hit in the toe when he hadn't scored we would've beaten you guys in round 1 too, deplorable decision.

Yep, totally agree with this statement, was a great ball - pity about the beamer the next ball though

[Phantom Gossiper]

And while I'm at it, if Terry had of given Russell out when he was absolutely plumb in front, hit in the toe when he hadn't scored we would've beaten you guys in round 1 too, deplorable decision.

dunno what your talking about

or if C. Rundle didn't lose his off stump to a straight break from M. Bedgegood, you may not have lost 4 wickets in the last hand full of overs to lose

or if the rain didn't come in the 1 dayer you would've been pantsed even worse

[Phantom Gossiper]

And while I'm at it, if Terry had of given Russell out when he was absolutely plumb in front, hit in the toe when he hadn't scored we would've beaten you guys in round 1 too, deplorable decision.

Yep, totally agree with this statement, was a great ball - pity about the beamer the next ball though :oops:

I enjoyed it! From square leg it looked alright to me!