Federal Government proposes a price on carbon.

[Sky Pilot]

Okay, assuming there is some element of truth to this report, where is the proof that Gillards green party will arrest it with their dodgy carbon tax? None! It is all A grade B S

Keeping setting up those strawmen, SP.

And if you genuinely think the ALP are a 'green party' the oxygen deprivation up there is much worse than I previously thought.

Give me a break mate. You know as well as we all do Gillard is a puppet to the loopy Greens otherwise her and her party would be sitting on the opposition benches. They are the facts.

[southee]

Okay, assuming there is some element of truth to this report, where is the proof that Gillards green party will arrest it with their dodgy carbon tax? None! It is all A grade B S

Keeping setting up those strawmen, SP.

And if you genuinely think the ALP are a 'green party' the oxygen deprivation up there is much worse than I previously thought.

Give me a break mate. You know as well as we all do Gillard is a puppet to the loopy Greens otherwise her and her party would be sitting on the opposition benches. They are the facts.

My point exactly !! She sucked up the the greenies and kissed their butts then knifed them in the back !

[Gozu]

Okay, assuming there is some element of truth to this report, where is the proof that Gillards green party will arrest it with their dodgy carbon tax? None! It is all A grade B S

Keeping setting up those strawmen, SP.

And if you genuinely think the ALP are a 'green party' the oxygen deprivation up there is much worse than I previously thought.

Give me a break mate. You know as well as we all do Gillard is a puppet to the loopy Greens otherwise her and her party would be sitting on the opposition benches. They are the facts.

Firstly you and Bolt and people like you know damn well the carbon tax isn't about stopping or even slowing down global warming. So continuing to say that is being dishonest in the extreme IMO because you're hoping the gullible out there might be taken in by such absurd insights.

I've said on here before that thankfully the only reason we're getting a carbon tax is because Gillard & the ALP needed to appease the Greens (somewhat). They are the only party that is genuinely pro-environment. The ALP in normal circumstances are gutless when it comes to this stuff hence Gillard's line about there being no crabon tax under a govt I lead during the last election campaign, which mind you wasn't a lie because both Labor & the Libs campaign on expecting to win majority govt as stupid and gutless as her statement was they had no idea they'd need to side up with a Greens MP and three independents just to remain in govt after the election.

[Jimmy_041]

Totally agree its not to reduce our reliance on carbon, otherwise why would they pay some people more than 100% compensation?
It's a badly veiled wealth redistribution tax

[fish]

So with that report fish the carbon tax will fix that problem I take it ??

If the earth is warning as you say .... What is the point of the carbon tax ??

click here

[Sky Pilot]

I have never contributed to the widely held (stupid) view that Gillard lied about this. She had no way of knowing pre-election that her Labr party was going to find itself in a hung parliament situation. After the count that prick Bob Brown read the riot act and got his way at the same time the traitorous trio of disaffected independents fell into line to keep their jobs. This is clearly the worst government we have had since Whitlam. Gillard is hopelessly out of her depth. The carbon tax is nothing but a sham and we poor non- influential punters on both sides of the political spectrum have to put up with it. So much for democracy. They treat us like idiots and it's the socialist left that supports this stupidity.

[fish]

It is nice to see that Sky Pilot and southee are no longer claiming that the earth isn't warming!

[Bully]

with all this rain and snow at this time of the year, i bet they will increase the carbon tax, stating the seasons are changing due to 'global warming'

[bulldogproud2]

with all this rain and snow at this time of the year, i bet they will increase the carbon tax, stating the seasons are changing due to 'global warming'

Sadly, yes, it may seem strange at the moment to think that we are in for a hot, dry summer. However, according to long-range projections, believe it or not, we are!!

[bulldogproud2]

The effect of the Carbon Tax is likely to be an increase in prices of 0.7%, only a quarter of the impact of the GST when it was introduced:

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/brea ... 6499339525

I wonder when Tony Abbott will issue an apology for misleading Australia about its impact.

[Sky Pilot]

The effect of the Carbon Tax is likely to be an increase in prices of 0.7%, only a quarter of the impact of the GST when it was introduced:

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/brea ... 6499339525

I wonder when Tony Abbott will issue an apology for misleading Australia about its impact.

Tony's job description is all about exposing the government for all its stupidity and he is a gold medallist. The best opposition leader the country has ever had. Mind you, a few of the kids in my Auskick class could make Gillard/Swan/Albanese/Midnight Oil/Roxon etc look stupid because they really are.

[Jimmy_041]

The effect of the Carbon Tax is likely to be an increase in prices of 0.7%, only a quarter of the impact of the GST when it was introduced:

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/brea ... 6499339525

I wonder when Tony Abbott will issue an apology for misleading Australia about its impact.

I really doubt we've seen the full impact.
BTW, people were given the opportunity to vote on the introduction of a GST.
GST - the tax Keating wanted to bring in and then fought against it for political expedience, and is now trying to re-write history about his duplicity

[Sojourner]

Can Julia Gillard categorically state that "there will be no increase to the GST under any government I lead" in this election campaign?

[Sky Pilot]

Can Julia Gillard categorically state that "there will be no increase to the GST under any government I lead" in this election campaign?

Not unless she gets approval from Christine Milne first.

[bulldogproud2]

The effect of the Carbon Tax is likely to be an increase in prices of 0.7%, only a quarter of the impact of the GST when it was introduced:

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/brea ... 6499339525

I wonder when Tony Abbott will issue an apology for misleading Australia about its impact.

I really doubt we've seen the full impact.
BTW, people were given the opportunity to vote on the introduction of a GST.
GST - the tax Keating wanted to bring in and then fought against it for political expedience, and is now trying to re-write history about his duplicity

Carbon Tax - a tax Tony Abbott has been stating Australia should have for years!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJlWyRIf ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12PN66IB ... re=related

[bulldogproud2]

The effect of the Carbon Tax is likely to be an increase in prices of 0.7%, only a quarter of the impact of the GST when it was introduced:

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/brea ... 6499339525

I wonder when Tony Abbott will issue an apology for misleading Australia about its impact.

Tony's job description is all about exposing the government for all its stupidity and he is a gold medallist. The best opposition leader the country has ever had. Mind you, a few of the kids in my Auskick class could make Gillard/Swan/Albanese/Midnight Oil/Roxon etc look stupid because they really are.

.. and what stupidity has he exposed?? All he has done is to try to undermine the confidence of the Australian people, try to destabilise the government and try to destroy Australia's economy.
First, he misrepresents Australia's debt situation (which is no worse as a percentage of GDP than it has been for the last thirty years).
Then he tries to scare people into thinking that the Carbon Tax is going to make everyone incredibly poorly off and destroy business. The truth is that most are better off financially as a result of the tax.
Then he shows that he cannot even read a simple electricity bill as he tries to blame the carbon tax for the increased cost of a person's electricity bill when it was due to increased consumption.
By trying to undermine confidence, he is attempting to slow down consumption spending in Australia which would lead to an economic slowdown. This is a time when he should be telling the truth (something he seems incapable of) and promote Australia, not put it down.

From your comments, SkyPilot, I would believe that your Auskick Kids would have a higher IQ than you - Australia is the best performing nation in the western world thanks to those people you name above. The only one who may well be stupid may have the initials T.A.
Cheers

[fish]

Abbott 'caught out' on use of pensioner's power bill

Labor says Opposition Leader Tony Abbott has been caught out in his use of a "pensioner's" electricity bill as part of his anti-carbon tax campaign.

In questioning the Prime Minister about Hetty Verolme's bill, Mr Abbott said the customer "nearly had a heart attack" when she got her most recent power bill.

It had more than doubled since her previous bill to $1,563 for the months of June and July, and Mr Abbott wanted to know what advice Julia Gillard had for the Perth pensioner.

He followed up with a supplementary question: "With an $800 increase in just one bill of which 70 per cent is due to the carbon tax, how can the Prime Minister possibly claim that Hetty Verolme's compensation is in any way adequate?"

Labor challenged Mr Abbott to table the bill in Parliament so it could verify Mr Abbott's claims, meaning it has now been made publicly available.

An electricity consumption graph on the side of the bill shows that most of the increase was due to a dramatic increase in power usage at Mrs Verolme's home.

[Sojourner]

Its official, Australia is Cooling....

"So this is what we're looking at as climatologists, giving us the heads up about what may happen over the next few months, and indeed what we're seeing now is a backing off from those El Nino thresholds."

Dr Watkins says they are not sure why there has been a cooling down.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-10-24/f ... nd/4332260

[Q.]

Its official, Australia is Cooling....

"So this is what we're looking at as climatologists, giving us the heads up about what may happen over the next few months, and indeed what we're seeing now is a backing off from those El Nino thresholds."

Dr Watkins says they are not sure why there has been a cooling down.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-10-24/f ... nd/4332260

It's not 'cooling', just that we will experience a prolonged La Nina.

[Squids]

Like I have been saying for ages. Last time the polar ice caps melted....the carbon dioxide did something to cool temperatures and everything went back to normal including the ice caps.