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Postby Cheech » Wed May 09, 2007 2:57 pm

The Mexican wrote:
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Swooper16 wrote:I heard morphies were a bit undisciplined which almost cost them. Brighton maybe better then what people are giving them credit for as well??


They were very undisciplined....They were a lot bigger bodied than the Bombers and I think they saw some easy targets in some younger and smaller targets.....Beeching and Jaroflowsky (or however you spell it) were typical instigators...hate to say it but Beeching in particular is a blouse and targets only those he thinks he can stand over....


Interesting you say this "Franky"... Remember back in the early 2000's when Brighton had those poor excuses for footballing brothers the "Drapers" what do you think they did to the up and coming young Emus team, the wheel turns my friend. If only they were still playing now, it would be interesting to see how they would exert their physical presence against the likes of Beeching and the Joraslafsky brothers. Beeching will take on anyone, big or small, make no mistake of that, sounds like he may have got you once or twice in years gone by. Let me say this, if the SFL coaches voted on a SFL MVP (similar to AFL) i would put any amount of money that he would if not win the award finish in the top three...


LOL Mexican....I actually played against both Beeching and Joraslafsky and both wouldn't even come near me....in fact i reckon i clipped those 2 around the ears a few times just to get a reaction...but alas none....

Bit harsh poor excuses...they played more SANFL league football than those 2 could ever dream about....


At the Bay and at South, when both clubs were at their peak challenging for an SANFL premiership (do you detect my hint of sarcasm..??) ... I wonder how many other local talents haven't played league footy because of self employment commitments etc.. Pyman has been chasing Beeching for 3-4 years now. To committ to league footy these days is a massive ask, training 4-5 times a week with weights sessions before work etc etc... I can't blame guys with incredible talent for sticking with the local clubs. I wonder if we asked Beech what he would rather... 50 odd SANFL games with no on field success (i have no idea how many league games the "snipers" played between them) or 3 x A grade premierships medals around his neck at the age of 25...?? I know what i would rather...!!


From what I've seen....There is NO way Beeching would ever be good enough to get a game at League level - if he was COMMITTED and did a pre-season and trained he might get a few Reserves games and that would be it!!
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Postby Hotdogs » Wed May 09, 2007 3:02 pm

At the Bay and at South, when both clubs were at their peak challenging for an SANFL premiership (do you detect my hint of sarcasm..??) ... I wonder how many other local talents haven't played league footy because of self employment commitments etc.. Pyman has been chasing Beeching for 3-4 years now. To committ to league footy these days is a massive ask, training 4-5 times a week with weights sessions before work etc etc... I can't blame guys with incredible talent for sticking with the local clubs. I wonder if we asked Beech what he would rather... 50 odd SANFL games with no on field success (i have no idea how many league games the "snipers" played between them) or 3 x A grade premierships medals around his neck at the age of 25...?? I know what i would rather...!![/quote]

You tosser....sure its great to play in premierships as thats what footy's are all about...But you should also play to the highest level you can...I'd take 100 SANFL league games with no success (albeit you'd be giving everything you could for success) over playing SFL given the opportunity....The problem with Beeching is that he is not the big fish in the pond at league level.
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Postby THE MOLE » Wed May 09, 2007 3:04 pm

Both Beeching and Joraslafsky have been out at league clubs at various stages.........
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Postby Hotdogs » Wed May 09, 2007 3:06 pm

THE MOLE wrote:Both Beeching and Joraslafsky have been out at league clubs at various stages.........


I know they have been....but neither had the committment or the game to make any impact.....They are great players at SFL level when they have a good team around them....I wonder how good Joraslafsky would be at say Marion and having to stand Gaskin ????
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Postby The Mexican » Wed May 09, 2007 3:09 pm

Cheech wrote:
The Mexican wrote:
Hotdogs wrote:
The Mexican wrote:
Hotdogs wrote:
Swooper16 wrote:I heard morphies were a bit undisciplined which almost cost them. Brighton maybe better then what people are giving them credit for as well??


They were very undisciplined....They were a lot bigger bodied than the Bombers and I think they saw some easy targets in some younger and smaller targets.....Beeching and Jaroflowsky (or however you spell it) were typical instigators...hate to say it but Beeching in particular is a blouse and targets only those he thinks he can stand over....


Interesting you say this "Franky"... Remember back in the early 2000's when Brighton had those poor excuses for footballing brothers the "Drapers" what do you think they did to the up and coming young Emus team, the wheel turns my friend. If only they were still playing now, it would be interesting to see how they would exert their physical presence against the likes of Beeching and the Joraslafsky brothers. Beeching will take on anyone, big or small, make no mistake of that, sounds like he may have got you once or twice in years gone by. Let me say this, if the SFL coaches voted on a SFL MVP (similar to AFL) i would put any amount of money that he would if not win the award finish in the top three...


LOL Mexican....I actually played against both Beeching and Joraslafsky and both wouldn't even come near me....in fact i reckon i clipped those 2 around the ears a few times just to get a reaction...but alas none....

Bit harsh poor excuses...they played more SANFL league football than those 2 could ever dream about....


At the Bay and at South, when both clubs were at their peak challenging for an SANFL premiership (do you detect my hint of sarcasm..??) ... I wonder how many other local talents haven't played league footy because of self employment commitments etc.. Pyman has been chasing Beeching for 3-4 years now. To committ to league footy these days is a massive ask, training 4-5 times a week with weights sessions before work etc etc... I can't blame guys with incredible talent for sticking with the local clubs. I wonder if we asked Beech what he would rather... 50 odd SANFL games with no on field success (i have no idea how many league games the "snipers" played between them) or 3 x A grade premierships medals around his neck at the age of 25...?? I know what i would rather...!!


From what I've seen....There is NO way Beeching would ever be good enough to get a game at League level - if he was COMMITTED and did a pre-season and trained he might get a few Reserves games and that would be it!!


If anyone has any contacts at South ask the question on how high Beeching is rated...?? I will await your response... I know what the answer will be..
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Postby Hills » Wed May 09, 2007 3:09 pm

Did beeching have the skill to make it to the AFL though before hehurt his knee?

If so the 50 league games would be worth it.
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Postby THE MOLE » Wed May 09, 2007 3:14 pm

The Mexican wrote:
Cheech wrote:
The Mexican wrote:
Hotdogs wrote:
The Mexican wrote:
Hotdogs wrote:
Swooper16 wrote:I heard morphies were a bit undisciplined which almost cost them. Brighton maybe better then what people are giving them credit for as well??


They were very undisciplined....They were a lot bigger bodied than the Bombers and I think they saw some easy targets in some younger and smaller targets.....Beeching and Jaroflowsky (or however you spell it) were typical instigators...hate to say it but Beeching in particular is a blouse and targets only those he thinks he can stand over....


Interesting you say this "Franky"... Remember back in the early 2000's when Brighton had those poor excuses for footballing brothers the "Drapers" what do you think they did to the up and coming young Emus team, the wheel turns my friend. If only they were still playing now, it would be interesting to see how they would exert their physical presence against the likes of Beeching and the Joraslafsky brothers. Beeching will take on anyone, big or small, make no mistake of that, sounds like he may have got you once or twice in years gone by. Let me say this, if the SFL coaches voted on a SFL MVP (similar to AFL) i would put any amount of money that he would if not win the award finish in the top three...


LOL Mexican....I actually played against both Beeching and Joraslafsky and both wouldn't even come near me....in fact i reckon i clipped those 2 around the ears a few times just to get a reaction...but alas none....

Bit harsh poor excuses...they played more SANFL league football than those 2 could ever dream about....


At the Bay and at South, when both clubs were at their peak challenging for an SANFL premiership (do you detect my hint of sarcasm..??) ... I wonder how many other local talents haven't played league footy because of self employment commitments etc.. Pyman has been chasing Beeching for 3-4 years now. To committ to league footy these days is a massive ask, training 4-5 times a week with weights sessions before work etc etc... I can't blame guys with incredible talent for sticking with the local clubs. I wonder if we asked Beech what he would rather... 50 odd SANFL games with no on field success (i have no idea how many league games the "snipers" played between them) or 3 x A grade premierships medals around his neck at the age of 25...?? I know what i would rather...!!


From what I've seen....There is NO way Beeching would ever be good enough to get a game at League level - if he was COMMITTED and did a pre-season and trained he might get a few Reserves games and that would be it!!


If anyone has any contacts at South ask the question on how high Beeching is rated...?? I will await your response... I know what the answer will be..


Rated very highly, but they have given up on him as he doesnt show the commitment. Like Hotdogs said, Big fish in a small pond.
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Postby Hills » Wed May 09, 2007 3:19 pm

maybe he has commitments to work and cant afford to risk being injured! After all there is a bigger strain on the body at that level. Ask Mr Disaster Tim Boyd.

This Big fish in a small pond thing is bullshit! im sure he has his reason why he isnt there.
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Postby Benchwarmer » Wed May 09, 2007 3:21 pm

Is Grae Mackinnon still producing the "Southern Boot" for the SFL?
What are guys opinions on it?
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Postby THE MOLE » Wed May 09, 2007 3:23 pm

Hills wrote:maybe he has commitments to work and cant afford to risk being injured! After all there is a bigger strain on the body at that level. Ask Mr Disaster Tim Boyd.

This Big fish in a small pond thing is bullshit! im sure he has his reason why he isnt there.


We all have our reasons why whe didnt do or achieve things. It comes down to how much you want it.
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Postby Hills » Wed May 09, 2007 3:25 pm

[quote="THE MOLE"][quote="Hills"]maybe he has commitments to work and cant afford to risk being injured! After all there is a bigger strain on the body at that level. Ask Mr Disaster Tim Boyd.

This Big fish in a small pond thing is bullshit! im sure he has his reason why he isnt there.[/quote]

We all have our reasons why whe didnt do or achieve things. It comes down to how much you want it.[/quote]

And how much your willing to risk.

Are you saying you wanted to be a big fish in a small pond after your injury?
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Postby THE MOLE » Wed May 09, 2007 3:26 pm

Benchwarmer wrote:Is Grae Mackinnon still producing the "Southern Boot" for the SFL?
What are guys opinions on it?


Grae is a legend. The boot is very good considering that he does it all himself. There was a good write up about him in the local paper the other week.
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Postby THE MOLE » Wed May 09, 2007 3:28 pm

Hills wrote:
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Hills wrote:maybe he has commitments to work and cant afford to risk being injured! After all there is a bigger strain on the body at that level. Ask Mr Disaster Tim Boyd.

This Big fish in a small pond thing is bullshit! im sure he has his reason why he isnt there.


We all have our reasons why whe didnt do or achieve things. It comes down to how much you want it.


And how much your willing to risk.

Are you saying you wanted to be a big fish in a small pond after your injury?


No but after 2 major operations you do re-evaluate things.......... Major injuries can happen at any level........
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Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Wed May 09, 2007 3:29 pm

I also know a few blokes that could/should have played SANFL but didnt due to work commitments.

I also know SANFL players that only sign one year contracts due to work...........

also have to remember some blokes dont play SANFL because of the money they are being paid by the local club that they are playing for...
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Postby THE MOLE » Wed May 09, 2007 3:35 pm

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:I also know a few blokes that could/should have played SANFL but didnt due to work commitments.

I also know SANFL players that only sign one year contracts due to work...........

also have to remember some blokes dont play SANFL because of the money they are being paid by the local club that they are playing for...


Very good point, but there are 2 sides to it. I know a bloke who hasnt got the most skill, but has been training at league level and his commitment to his dream is why he played his first reserves game on the weekend and even kicked the "sealer"
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Postby Swooper16 » Wed May 09, 2007 3:41 pm

I think the majority of the clubs top 3 players have all at some stage been in the same situation and decided that for whatever reason the reward of playing reserves footy is not worth the effort. If your honest i dont think there are many people who would be committed enough to footy to want to train 6-7 times a week 10 months of the year.

For the record Cheech, Beeching has played a few reserves games and from all reports would easily been playing league had he not done his knee. If anyone was at the SFL association game a couple of years ago you would of seen what he is capable of.
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Postby The Mexican » Wed May 09, 2007 3:53 pm

Swooper16 wrote:I think the majority of the clubs top 3 players have all at some stage been in the same situation and decided that for whatever reason the reward of playing reserves footy is not worth the effort. If your honest i dont think there are many people who would be committed enough to footy to want to train 6-7 times a week 10 months of the year.

For the record Cheech, Beeching has played a few reserves games and from all reports would easily been playing league had he not done his knee. If anyone was at the SFL association game a couple of years ago you would of seen what he is capable of.


I Repeat:

Let me say this, if the SFL coaches voted on a SFL MVP (similar to AFL) i would put any amount of money that he would if not win the award finish in the top three...

Not sure that anyone is disagreeing with this comment...!! Especially you "Franky"...
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Postby THE MOLE » Wed May 09, 2007 4:01 pm

The Mexican wrote:
Swooper16 wrote:I think the majority of the clubs top 3 players have all at some stage been in the same situation and decided that for whatever reason the reward of playing reserves footy is not worth the effort. If your honest i dont think there are many people who would be committed enough to footy to want to train 6-7 times a week 10 months of the year.

For the record Cheech, Beeching has played a few reserves games and from all reports would easily been playing league had he not done his knee. If anyone was at the SFL association game a couple of years ago you would of seen what he is capable of.


I Repeat:

Let me say this, if the SFL coaches voted on a SFL MVP (similar to AFL) i would put any amount of money that he would if not win the award finish in the top three...

Not sure that anyone is disagreeing with this comment...!! Especially you "Franky"...


Thank you for repeating, sorry our full attention wasnt to answering your question.
He is definately one of the top players in the league, but to say you would put any amount of money on him finishing in the top 3 would be a very risky bet. I could think of atleast 10 other guys who i could think of on this list.
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Postby The Lova » Wed May 09, 2007 4:17 pm

THE MOLE wrote:
The Mexican wrote:
Swooper16 wrote:I think the majority of the clubs top 3 players have all at some stage been in the same situation and decided that for whatever reason the reward of playing reserves footy is not worth the effort. If your honest i dont think there are many people who would be committed enough to footy to want to train 6-7 times a week 10 months of the year.

For the record Cheech, Beeching has played a few reserves games and from all reports would easily been playing league had he not done his knee. If anyone was at the SFL association game a couple of years ago you would of seen what he is capable of.


I Repeat:

Let me say this, if the SFL coaches voted on a SFL MVP (similar to AFL) i would put any amount of money that he would if not win the award finish in the top three...

Not sure that anyone is disagreeing with this comment...!! Especially you "Franky"...


Thank you for repeating, sorry our full attention wasnt to answering your question.
He is definately one of the top players in the league, but to say you would put any amount of money on him finishing in the top 3 would be a very risky bet. I could think of atleast 10 other guys who i could think of on this list.


Interesting point MOLE. do you mind naming them? It mite be a fairly interesting point of discussion to see who people think are valuable players at their or others clubs. mite be a starting point towards who people think will play in the association game in 5 weeks as well.
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Postby THE MOLE » Wed May 09, 2007 4:31 pm

Cove, Gill, Vick, Ramsey, Valley, Mahar, Mckenzie, Reynella, Mckeough, Prescott, Brighton, Tucker Johnston......... half the morphies side........
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