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Re: Spencer Gulf League

Postby Killa » Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:41 pm

coyote ugly wrote:
footymusic wrote:What a poorly run SGL GF, the biggest crowd at a Pirie GF in as many years as I can remember, total lack of wisdom by the SGL/Pirie league/Lions, leaving the gates open all week, only shutting them late thursday or early friday, allowing punters to get there cars & alcohol in, security guards checking cars Sat and alas only finding eskies full of ice.....derrrrrr.
Possible crowd of 3000 at a major sporting event in the city and security knock off at half time, seemingly there only job was to check the cars for alcohol, not keep check on unruly behaviour etc, police presence non-existant, until some idiot wacks the umpire, Lions running the catering, you would think they would be good at this as they do it every week and especially in the finals as they have plenty of helpers as they are never in the main game, and yet there were line up's for food and beer (hot) selling out of a caravan.... wtf, $4.50 reasonable price but why not make it $5 and forget about having to mess around with too much change......no brainer!!
FFS Lions & SGL get your collective heads out of your arse and get over to the Northern Areas and see how a GF should be run, with double the crowd Pirie had on the weekend, security actually patrolling the WHOLE of the ground, keeping it as family friendly as possible, not having to put up with senior colts lads sitting in the back of utes with the F's & C's flying for all to hear, not a good PR for the SGL at all.
Phew got that of my chest, could go on but only repeating what people have been saying for years.


What a rabble[/quote.]
that what happens when they hold a gf every 5 or so years as Port Augusta sides keep winning. They have NFI one beer van? Only one place to get food? What a rabble the mob in pirie are! Add the a grade was running 20 minutes behind schedule time.
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Re: Spencer Gulf League

Postby Squids » Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:42 pm

Surely they opened 3 gates at the end of the game?
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Re: Spencer Gulf League

Postby Brad » Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:21 pm

http://www.portpirierecorder.com.au/sto ... s/?cs=1530

Read the article above, the SGL said they can't over turn tribunal decision in regards to the king hit in the B Grade, but HAVEN'T dicussed this issue?? are they actually serious about running the SGL. It's made state wide headlines for goodness sake and is there to see on video! If I was involved in a SGL club I'd be taking it direct to the SA Community Football League to look at no way can the 2 game ban stay.
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Re: Spencer Gulf League

Postby Killa » Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:14 pm

Brad wrote:http://www.portpirierecorder.com.au/story/360381/local-umpire-left-with-facial-injuries/?cs=1530

Read the article above, the SGL said they can't over turn tribunal decision in regards to the king hit in the B Grade, but HAVEN'T dicussed this issue?? are they actually serious about running the SGL. It's made state wide headlines for goodness sake and is there to see on video! If I was involved in a SGL club I'd be taking it direct to the SA Community Football League to look at no way can the 2 game ban stay.


Sgl don't accepts video evidence due the constitution. Why don't they find something they can charge him with. Starters they should look at sacfl regulations or get the sacfl to find something. It shows what shambles they are when you got people involved so they can have a piss up each year. Next, they don't use emergency umpires in the a's or big games as they are trying to save money. Lastly umpires sitting down on the bench could have came on for existence as acting as a emergency umpire. The umpire who reported him he is filthy what he didn't see as at the other end of the ground. Basically he got reported for striking not assault where he would have been sent off and not able to take the early plea.
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Re: Spencer Gulf League

Postby Media Park » Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:42 am

Forget the video for a second.

The incident has brought his club, the league, and the administration into disrepute through the negative light they have been portrayed in throughout the national media.
Not a local paper or news service decrying one person, the national media painting SGL football in a very bad light.

There is there out, throw the goddamned book at him.
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Spencer Gulf League

Postby RustyCage » Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:43 am

If the club tells him he isn't wanted there next season, I doubt other clubs would look too favorably at picking him up
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Re: Spencer Gulf League

Postby kinghit » Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:59 pm

the player in question had the nerve to turn up on Mad Monday which was quite disappointing; hopefully the football club makes the right call and deregisters this bloke because it does reflect badly on the club, and there's no place in the game for that rubbish. The SGL is a joke, blokes have been put in hospital and killed in incidents like that and despite the evidence they aren't going to investigate further?
The player who started all the spotfires (mainly because he had dodged a fitness test during the week and wasn't able to run so why not take some blokes out) announced he was finished straight after the game, good bloody riddance if you ask me
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Re: Spencer Gulf League

Postby Bush Telegraph » Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:16 pm

kinghit wrote:the player in question had the nerve to turn up on Mad Monday which was quite disappointing; hopefully the football club makes the right call and deregisters this bloke because it does reflect badly on the club, and there's no place in the game for that rubbish. The SGL is a joke, blokes have been put in hospital and killed in incidents like that and despite the evidence they aren't going to investigate further?
The player who started all the spotfires (mainly because he had dodged a fitness test during the week and wasn't able to run so why not take some blokes out) announced he was finished straight after the game, good bloody riddance if you ask me


If you are talkin bout BA, hes been doing this for years and your mob have loved him taking people out off ball. And hes not the only one whose been doing all this stuff. Now bad media is out you are making them out to be the bad boys to make your club look all inocent.
Will say South A grade werent dirty this year tho and were a deadly team.well deserved. Watch out for the Hawks next year tho.
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Re: Spencer Gulf League

Postby Mr Beefy » Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:43 pm

kinghit wrote:the player in question had the nerve to turn up on Mad Monday which was quite disappointing; hopefully the football club makes the right call and deregisters this bloke because it does reflect badly on the club, and there's no place in the game for that rubbish. The SGL is a joke, blokes have been put in hospital and killed in incidents like that and despite the evidence they aren't going to investigate further?
The player who started all the spotfires (mainly because he had dodged a fitness test during the week and wasn't able to run so why not take some blokes out) announced he was finished straight after the game, good bloody riddance if you ask me

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Re: Spencer Gulf League

Postby kinghit » Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:51 pm

Bush Telegraph wrote:
kinghit wrote:the player in question had the nerve to turn up on Mad Monday which was quite disappointing; hopefully the football club makes the right call and deregisters this bloke because it does reflect badly on the club, and there's no place in the game for that rubbish. The SGL is a joke, blokes have been put in hospital and killed in incidents like that and despite the evidence they aren't going to investigate further?
The player who started all the spotfires (mainly because he had dodged a fitness test during the week and wasn't able to run so why not take some blokes out) announced he was finished straight after the game, good bloody riddance if you ask me


If you are talkin bout BA, hes been doing this for years and your mob have loved him taking people out off ball. And hes not the only one whose been doing all this stuff. Now bad media is out you are making them out to be the bad boys to make your club look all inocent.
Will say South A grade werent dirty this year tho and were a deadly team.well deserved. Watch out for the Hawks next year tho.


Well his teammates didn't appreciate it. These were isolated incidents, throughout the season there has been nothing to suggest South Augusta has played dirty football (which you have admitted yourself so not sure what point you're trying to make). Anyway, I'm just looking forward to next season and a new batch of 'We are Ports' youtube videos to pop up
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Re: Spencer Gulf League

Postby McGovern » Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:00 pm

Gorilla warfare wrote:No place for it in footy. Take up boxing if these blokes think they're that tuff. Guarantee they they wouldn't last a round. Agree that they should thro the book at em. Talked to young bloke who got hit he's pretty sore but said he's got the last laugh with a medal round his neck. Well done to the lions.


Let's bring in the yellow & red card system -

Yellow: You're off the ground for 10mins and the team must play with 17 men, then you can come back on.
Red: You're out for the game and team must play with 17 men for 10mins, then you can be replaced. Automatic report.
2 yellows in 1 game = Red card.
Too many yellows in season = suspension.

As it stands, in the grand final players have nothing to lose - If you belt someone but it wins you the game and you cop a 2 week suspension - Big deal!

There needs to be an effective deterrent with immediate consequences for the offending player's team.

Well done Lions, you came to play footy and beat us hands down.
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Re: Spencer Gulf League

Postby Sky Pilot » Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:06 pm

McGovern wrote:
Gorilla warfare wrote:No place for it in footy. Take up boxing if these blokes think they're that tuff. Guarantee they they wouldn't last a round. Agree that they should thro the book at em. Talked to young bloke who got hit he's pretty sore but said he's got the last laugh with a medal round his neck. Well done to the lions.


Let's bring in the yellow & red card system -

Yellow: You're off the ground for 10mins and the team must play with 17 men, then you can come back on.
Red: You're out for the game and team must play with 17 men for 10mins, then you can be replaced. Automatic report.
2 yellows in 1 game = Red card.
Too many yellows in season = suspension.

As it stands, in the grand final players have nothing to lose - If you belt someone but it wins you the game and you cop a 2 week suspension - Big deal!

There needs to be an effective deterrent with immediate consequences for the offending player's team.

Well done Lions, you came to play footy and beat us hands down.

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Re: Spencer Gulf League

Postby 7-Dog » Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:19 pm

Sky Pilot wrote:
McGovern wrote:
Gorilla warfare wrote:No place for it in footy. Take up boxing if these blokes think they're that tuff. Guarantee they they wouldn't last a round. Agree that they should thro the book at em. Talked to young bloke who got hit he's pretty sore but said he's got the last laugh with a medal round his neck. Well done to the lions.


Let's bring in the yellow & red card system -

Yellow: You're off the ground for 10mins and the team must play with 17 men, then you can come back on.
Red: You're out for the game and team must play with 17 men for 10mins, then you can be replaced. Automatic report.
2 yellows in 1 game = Red card.
Too many yellows in season = suspension.

As it stands, in the grand final players have nothing to lose - If you belt someone but it wins you the game and you cop a 2 week suspension - Big deal!

There needs to be an effective deterrent with immediate consequences for the offending player's team.

Well done Lions, you came to play footy and beat us hands down.

What next? Baggy shorts and a round ball?


Unfortunately attempts to bring in the card system, will be met with "this isn't soccer" or this type of action is what happens in GF's.

I remember an incident where a player was criminally charged & had to pay damages.

The AFL didn't help when they only gave Hall a small holiday for his hit on Staker. The NRL also need to act, and on previous incidents may get 8 games. How can country football compete with penalties if the top leagues hand out pathetic penalties.
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Re: Spencer Gulf League

Postby Armytank » Tue Oct 02, 2012 4:43 pm

We have the red and yellow card system in the Hills League, we have had it for well over 10 years now. It works pretty well most of the time when the umpire and the time keeper acknowledge each other.

You get a yellow card for showing desent or attempted striking. Yellow card means you are off for 10 mins and your team plays with 17 men. You get a red card for striking or anything reportable like tripping. A red card is an automatic report and banned from the rest of the game with your team playing with only 17 men for 10 mins as well. Umpires tend to only give yellows because they cant be bothered showing up for the tribunal hearing. Two yellows in one game is an automatic red though. Three yellows in a season and it is an automatic two week suspension.

Umpires can use the cards to difuse some situations. Get a yellow card and your team has to play with 17 men for 10 minutes. So if you want to belt someone you had better make it a good one because you will be spectating for a while if you do.

You can still assert yourself physically, you can still be intimidating, it just takes the thug element out of the game mostly. You still get dirty pricks who belt blokes behind the play but it is rare.

It has nothing to do with soccer so don't even bother trying to equate it to that.

If you only have the classic report system then there is nothing to stop a bloke belting someone, hoping they will get off at the tribunal, they can play the game out and their team is not affected and potentially advantaged my the removal of an oposition player through injury.

Have red and yellow cards and you are going to think twice about belting someone because you could be giving your team a disadvantage by having to play one man short for 10 minutes.
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Re: Spencer Gulf League

Postby 7-Dog » Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:15 pm

South have met with the player in question and was made to explain his actions, I won't go into his response, but South Augusta have imposed an 8 match ban. The reason from the club, was that it fell in-line with the Hall incident, which the club official told me Hall got 6 games for (I can't remember how much he did get). The player has written a letter of an apology to both the Lions Football Club and the player involved in the unfortunate incident.
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Re: Spencer Gulf League

Postby woodublieve12 » Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:23 pm

7-Dog wrote:South have met with the player in question and was made to explain his actions, I won't go into his response, but South Augusta have imposed an 8 match ban. The reason from the club, was that it fell in-line with the Hall incident, which the club official told me Hall got 6 games for (I can't remember how much he did get). The player has written a letter of an apology to both the Lions Football Club and the player involved in the unfortunate incident.


:shock: is that it????
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Re: Spencer Gulf League

Postby Sky Pilot » Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:26 pm

I still say the girlie yellow and red card system belongs in soccer, not mens football.
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Re: Spencer Gulf League

Postby 7-Dog » Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:42 pm

Sky Pilot wrote:I still say the girlie yellow and red card system belongs in soccer, not mens football.


:lol: I knew someone would say it.

woodublieve12 wrote:
7-Dog wrote:South have met with the player in question and was made to explain his actions, I won't go into his response, but South Augusta have imposed an 8 match ban. The reason from the club, was that it fell in-line with the Hall incident, which the club official told me Hall got 6 games for (I can't remember how much he did get). The player has written a letter of an apology to both the Lions Football Club and the player involved in the unfortunate incident.


:shock: is that it????


I agree that it should be more. But, Hall got 7 games for his hit, and the same official who told me of this, said the SGL is bound by the SA Country Football Inc or SANFL (not sure which one he said), and their recommended punishment is only a maximum of ??. I don't know what that figure is, but obviously it is less than the 8 games SAFC gave. You can't condemn SAFC for any sanction they impose, because this has happened in previous Grand Finals, especially 2005 & 2011 from recent memory & neither of those clubs imposed any ban, nor where asked to enforce a ban. The 2011 incident also received 2 games from the tribunal.

As I said earlier, the AFL needed to suspend Hall for life right there and then and make an example, just like the NRL should do for the biting incident.
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Re: Spencer Gulf League

Postby Poultry in Motion » Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:12 pm

woodublieve12 wrote:
7-Dog wrote:South have met with the player in question and was made to explain his actions, I won't go into his response, but South Augusta have imposed an 8 match ban. The reason from the club, was that it fell in-line with the Hall incident, which the club official told me Hall got 6 games for (I can't remember how much he did get). The player has written a letter of an apology to both the Lions Football Club and the player involved in the unfortunate incident.


:shock: is that it????


Good on South for having the balls to go down this path. The player in question would have been stiff to be expelled from the club when there have been other (non televised) examples who have been there but haven't been scrutinised like this. Certainly not condoning that gutless act but think South could have taken the easier "face saving" option of kicking him out and didn't. I hope they (and other clubs) follow this path for similar incidents regardless of the exposure they generate.

Also, I think the card system is worth a go.
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Re: Spencer Gulf League

Postby Poultry in Motion » Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:13 pm

After South's great year are there any likely player losses you can speak about 7 Dog? (Rivers, Margatich, Payne?)
Or gains?

Other club happenings?
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