2012 AFL Grand Final

[Rik E Boy]

Hawks easy, might even get quite ugly 72pts

The cameras show the fans a lot these days and the Hawks are in the granny so I reckon you're right about it getting ugly. I reckon you'll win it but I don't think you'll flog em.

regards,

REB

[Footy Smart]

The Hawks play a 'Millionaire' style or footy. A disciplined/experiened side like sydney will break them down IMO

That is very true, but on the flipside, with the MCG allow for sydney to shut down hawthorn's movement of the footy- given the mcg is the widest ground in the AFL....

FWIW (im no bookie), but i see it closing in to be a $1.70-$2.10 or $1.80-$2 game by the time saturday rolls around.

Hawthorn will win it for mine by 14 points with Sam Mitchell claiming the Norm Smith.

The crows did it for nearly 3 and a bit qtrs, they stopped their run of HB and only their midfield generated their drives FWD. Sydney are far superior in the midfield and ruck, so if they can stop Suckling (flat track bully), Birchall and Youngs run they are right in the mix.

dam I must of watched the wrong game. The hawks had plenty of run from there back lines. Sydney game style will be the victim of them on saturday and won't be able to stop the hawks running style of footy. just remember the hawks kicked 19 points on the weekend and majority of those where from set shots or wide out shots, it wasn't the crows defensive pressure that caused that, it was the week off. The only thing that could change this game is it's expected to be wet in melbourne on saturday so could make things interesting.

this is the most stupid thing I have ever read and proves you have NFI about football. As a defender your aim is to push the FWDs as wide as possible and make the shot they could possibly have on goal harder, this includes the midfield group not allowin teams to run through the middle hitting lead up targets and having shots from directly in front..... How you can relate that to a week off is yet not suprising

[bd u15 09]

History will be made as the AFL will have their first female umpire in the AFL Grand Final. Chelsea Roffey will stand in goals for the big game on Saturday.

Umpires for the match are: Brett Rosebury, Matt Stevic and Simon Meredith

[Footy Smart]

Should be a cracker game! gotta love AFL GF day. BBQ, esky, first goal and norm smith TAB tickets flying around, all attending people choosing a player from a hat and has to drink when they get a touch, p*ss talk and banter. Nothing better

[Johno6]

grand final day, one of if not my fav day of the year
absolutely love it

[kickinit]

dam I must of watched the wrong game. The hawks had plenty of run from there back lines. Sydney game style will be the victim of them on saturday and won't be able to stop the hawks running style of footy. just remember the hawks kicked 19 points on the weekend and majority of those where from set shots or wide open shots, it wasn't the crows defensive pressure that caused that, it was the week off. The only thing that could change this game is it's expected to be wet in melbourne on saturday so could make things interesting.

this is the most stupid thing I have ever read and proves you have NFI about football. As a defender your aim is to push the FWDs as wide as possible and make the shot they could possibly have on goal harder, this includes the midfield group not allowin teams to run through the middle hitting lead up targets and having shots from directly in front..... How you can relate that to a week off is yet not suprising[/quote]

My mistake it was suppose to say wide open shots. I just think it's funny how crows supporters now don't rate hawthorn as flag favourites. This is Hawthorn's flag to lose they are the best team going around and will do it easy on saturday. And it will also prove that if the hawks didn't have the week off how much a blow out last saturday's game would of been.

[Footy Smart]

dam I must of watched the wrong game. The hawks had plenty of run from there back lines. Sydney game style will be the victim of them on saturday and won't be able to stop the hawks running style of footy. just remember the hawks kicked 19 points on the weekend and majority of those where from set shots or wide open shots, it wasn't the crows defensive pressure that caused that, it was the week off. The only thing that could change this game is it's expected to be wet in melbourne on saturday so could make things interesting.

this is the most stupid thing I have ever read and proves you have NFI about football. As a defender your aim is to push the FWDs as wide as possible and make the shot they could possibly have on goal harder, this includes the midfield group not allowin teams to run through the middle hitting lead up targets and having shots from directly in front..... How you can relate that to a week off is yet not suprising

My mistake it was suppose to say wide open shots. I just think it's funny how crows supporters now don't rate hawthorn as flag favourites. This is Hawthorn's flag to lose they are the best team going around and will do it easy on saturday. And it will also prove that if the hawks didn't have the week off how much a blow out last saturday's game would of been.[/quote]

I think the hawks have been over rated and the swans under rated for a long time now. The Hawks at their best are super not doubt and hodge back in is massive. But when they get broken down and some of thier flat track bullies taken out of the game they are more than beatable.

[Rik E Boy]

History will be made as the AFL will have their first female umpire in the AFL Grand Final. Chelsea Roffey will stand in goals for the big game on Saturday.

Umpires for the match are: Brett Rosebury, Matt Stevic and Simon Meredith

She's a bit lucky after getting making that clanger during the Prelim but she's normally pretty good though. No Nicholls, no Hawthorn LOL.

regards,

REB

[JK]

History will be made as the AFL will have their first female umpire in the AFL Grand Final. Chelsea Roffey will stand in goals for the big game on Saturday.

Umpires for the match are: Brett Rosebury, Matt Stevic and Simon Meredith

She's a bit lucky after getting making that clanger during the Prelim but she's normally pretty good though. No Nicholls, no Hawthorn LOL.

regards,

REB

A lot has been made of that call, and sure it looks like it's probably carried the line, but I don't think the replays are conclusive .. From the angles they showed and the need for the ball to be entirely over the line, I don't think anyone was in a better position to call it than her.

[interested observer]

History will be made as the AFL will have their first female umpire in the AFL Grand Final. Chelsea Roffey will stand in goals for the big game on Saturday.

Umpires for the match are: Brett Rosebury, Matt Stevic and Simon Meredith

She's a bit lucky after getting making that clanger during the Prelim but she's normally pretty good though. No Nicholls, no Hawthorn LOL.

regards,

REB

A lot has been made of that call, and sure it looks like it's probably carried the line, but I don't think the replays are conclusive .. From the angles they showed and the need for the ball to be entirely over the line, I don't think anyone was in a better position to call it than her.

The boundary umpire was..
Was he consulted ??

[JK]

The boundary umpire was..
Was he consulted ??

Fair call mate, Im not sure .. I'm less likely to defend him tho because he doesn't have nice rack

[interested observer]

:lol: this is the most stupid thing I have ever read and proves you have NFI about football. As a defender your aim is to push the FWDs as wide as possible and make the shot they could possibly have on goal harder, this includes the midfield group not allowin teams to run through the middle hitting lead up targets and having shots from directly in front..... How you can relate that to a week off is yet not suprising

My mistake it was suppose to say wide open shots. I just think it's funny how crows supporters now don't rate hawthorn as flag favourites. This is Hawthorn's flag to lose they are the best team going around and will do it easy on saturday. And it will also prove that if the hawks didn't have the week off how much a blow out last saturday's game would of been.

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I think the hawks have been over rated and the swans under rated for a long time now. The Hawks at their best are super not doubt and hodge back in is massive. But when they get broken down and some of thier flat track bullies taken out of the game they are more than beatable.

[/quote][/quote]

Season rankings...

1st in goals per game
1st in behinds per game
Obviously then 1st in total score (251 point more than 2nd placed Crows who like it or not did have a lovely draw to cash in on some big scores )
3rd in Score against only behind Sydney and Fremantle ( even with a much maligned defence )
1st in inside 50s
1st in Clearances
2nd in total disposals
17-5 win loss
and a healthy % of 154.59% with next best being Sydney at 140.58%

Yep I reckon they are over rated too.

[Booney]

History will be made as the AFL will have their first female umpire in the AFL Grand Final. Chelsea Roffey will stand in goals for the big game on Saturday.
Umpires for the match are: Brett Rosebury, Matt Stevic and Simon Meredith

She's a bit lucky after getting making that clanger during the Prelim but she's normally pretty good though. No Nicholls, no Hawthorn LOL.
regards,
REB

A lot has been made of that call, and sure it looks like it's probably carried the line, but I don't think the replays are conclusive .. From the angles they showed and the need for the ball to be entirely over the line, I don't think anyone was in a better position to call it than her.

The boundary umpire was..
Was he consulted ??

Oh God. People piss and moan endlessly about over officiating and on a decision that no evidence, be it witnesses or multiple camera angles could clearly define what happened you want to ask the boundary umpire?

It was a point, the goal umpire said so. All clear.

[mighty_tiger_79]

we need goal post cam

[interested observer]

A lot has been made of that call, and sure it looks like it's probably carried the line, but I don't think the replays are conclusive .. From the angles they showed and the need for the ball to be entirely over the line, I don't think anyone was in a better position to call it than her.[/quote]
The boundary umpire was..
Was he consulted ??[/quote]

Oh God. People piss and moan endlessly about over officiating and on a decision that no evidence, be it witnesses or multiple camera angles could clearly define what happened you want to ask the boundary umpire?

It was a point, the goal umpire said so. All clear.[/quote]

Settle pettle..
I really could not give a stuff about the decision to be frank.
My "question" was that they involve them every other time, was he this time as he certainly had an uninterupted view given where he was standing at the time if you missed him in one of the 17 replays...
It was a question of whether he was asked not a statement....

[Footy Smart]

:lol: this is the most stupid thing I have ever read and proves you have NFI about football. As a defender your aim is to push the FWDs as wide as possible and make the shot they could possibly have on goal harder, this includes the midfield group not allowin teams to run through the middle hitting lead up targets and having shots from directly in front..... How you can relate that to a week off is yet not suprising

My mistake it was suppose to say wide open shots. I just think it's funny how crows supporters now don't rate hawthorn as flag favourites. This is Hawthorn's flag to lose they are the best team going around and will do it easy on saturday. And it will also prove that if the hawks didn't have the week off how much a blow out last saturday's game would of been.

I think the hawks have been over rated and the swans under rated for a long time now. The Hawks at their best are super not doubt and hodge back in is massive. But when they get broken down and some of thier flat track bullies taken out of the game they are more than beatable.

[/quote][/quote]

Season rankings...

1st in goals per game
1st in behinds per game
Obviously then 1st in total score (251 point more than 2nd placed Crows who like it or not did have a lovely draw to cash in on some big scores )
3rd in Score against only behind Sydney and Fremantle ( even with a much maligned defence )
1st in inside 50s
1st in Clearances
2nd in total disposals
17-5 win loss
and a healthy % of 154.59% with next best being Sydney at 140.58%

Yep I reckon they are over rated too. [/quote]


They are over rated in the fact that people think they are totally un beatable this finals series and that they should account for Sydney easily this week. In those 5 losses it showed that they can be taken down when their free flowing footy doesn’t work. When it does work, good luck stopping them but Sydney are the only side who I think can stop that free flowing footy, have the structure to win on the counter attack and are in good form.

[interested observer]

:lol: this is the most stupid thing I have ever read and proves you have NFI about football. As a defender your aim is to push the FWDs as wide as possible and make the shot they could possibly have on goal harder, this includes the midfield group not allowin teams to run through the middle hitting lead up targets and having shots from directly in front..... How you can relate that to a week off is yet not suprising

My mistake it was suppose to say wide open shots. I just think it's funny how crows supporters now don't rate hawthorn as flag favourites. This is Hawthorn's flag to lose they are the best team going around and will do it easy on saturday. And it will also prove that if the hawks didn't have the week off how much a blow out last saturday's game would of been.

I think the hawks have been over rated and the swans under rated for a long time now. The Hawks at their best are super not doubt and hodge back in is massive. But when they get broken down and some of thier flat track bullies taken out of the game they are more than beatable.

[/quote]

Season rankings...

1st in goals per game
1st in behinds per game
Obviously then 1st in total score (251 point more than 2nd placed Crows who like it or not did have a lovely draw to cash in on some big scores )
3rd in Score against only behind Sydney and Fremantle ( even with a much maligned defence )
1st in inside 50s
1st in Clearances
2nd in total disposals
17-5 win loss
and a healthy % of 154.59% with next best being Sydney at 140.58%

Yep I reckon they are over rated too. [/quote]


They are over rated in the fact that people think they are totally un beatable this finals series and that they should account for Sydney easily this week. In those 5 losses it showed that they can be taken down when their free flowing footy doesn’t work. When it does work, good luck stopping them but Sydney are the only side who I think can stop that free flowing footy, have the structure to win on the counter attack and are in good form.[/quote]

Nobody is unbeatable and time will tell who is the better side on the day.

[daysofourlives]

History will be made as the AFL will have their first female umpire in the AFL Grand Final. Chelsea Roffey will stand in goals for the big game on Saturday.

Umpires for the match are: Brett Rosebury, Matt Stevic and Simon Meredith

She's a bit lucky after getting making that clanger during the Prelim but she's normally pretty good though. No Nicholls, no Hawthorn LOL.

regards,

REB

What number is Nicholls? 30?

[Jim05]

History will be made as the AFL will have their first female umpire in the AFL Grand Final. Chelsea Roffey will stand in goals for the big game on Saturday.

Umpires for the match are: Brett Rosebury, Matt Stevic and Simon Meredith

She's a bit lucky after getting making that clanger during the Prelim but she's normally pretty good though. No Nicholls, no Hawthorn LOL.

regards,

REB

What number is Nicholls? 30?

15

[daysofourlives]

Who is No 30 then, i bloody hope he isnt one of the names mentioned above