Coaches on the move?

[GWW]

Hill won a premiership in the RMFL in 1990; also at least 1 or 2 others too I think - including amateurs, and possibly in the Hills too.

[Jim05]

Hill won a premiership in the RMFL in 1990; also at least 1 or 2 others too I think - including amateurs, and possibly in the Hills too.

Was crap where it counts though. Couldn't care less how many flags he has won in country or amatuer football, he was a disgrace on the big stage

[daysofourlives]

Hill won a premiership in the RMFL in 1990; also at least 1 or 2 others too I think - including amateurs, and possibly in the Hills too.

And just took SPOC from div2 premiers to div1 premiers in one year

[holden78]

Godden has 2 more years left. Quite sure he's happy at the club especially after the Bays had a real crack at him this time last year.
He has a nice opportunity now to make up a team with his own stamp all over it and develop a strong leadership along his way of thinking! So many games this season the Eagles failed to accept mental challenges and play like premiers should ie. with confidence and pride.
Rowntree, and to a lesser extent Goldsworthy, are developing leadership onfield, but new recruits with possible leadership qualities are desperately required to improve back to the top.
Losing Greiger alone means a bigger defender and backup ruckman are needed just to break even.
For most of the season the Eagles were the worst club in actually getting score on the board and only some of the blame can be laid on our suspect kicking skills.
Losing Sumner's run and carry will hurt if we go back to just relying on Jarrad and occassionally McKenzie for quicker forward attacking; recruiting some outside players is a must to play defensive teams and be able to have options against them

[SDK]

With a decent coach and game style West Adelaide would be a big threat for the flag. I believe West have the players to be more attacking and those big forwards would be very dangerous given more opportunity. Hard to get goals when it only comes down 6 times a game !
For football's sake I hope Collins does go home.

[FlyingHigh]

Agree SDK. I've thought all year West have as good a squad as any with their recruiting over last summer. To a certain extent Bassett has to play the style Norwood do because he has good, but not great forwards and defenders, esp with McGuiness and Newton out, and it is a compliment to him he has been able to bring through some younger players when needed. West's forwards and defenders are individually probably better players, which is why it is so frustrating to see them play that style rather than backing themselves to be better players than their opposition.

[Go Legs]

With a decent coach and game style West Adelaide would be a big threat for the flag. I believe West have the players to be more attacking and those big forwards would be very dangerous given more opportunity. Hard to get goals when it only comes down 6 times a game !
For football's sake I hope Collins does go home.

Hard to argue with your argument SDK, but Norwood play that style of game when needed as well.

I think if the crowd for the GF (assuming Nwd vs the Bloods) is a disaster and the game rating for the ABC is at record lows then the AFL/SANFL will step in and adjust the rules to stop flooding.

How, simple, a white line straight through the middle from wing to wing through which forwards or backs cannot encroach. 1 x Wing attack and 1 x Wing defense. Centreman and rucks squad are the only players allowed the full length of the ground.

Sounds very netball but it was once the unwritten law of playing our great game which remaind open and free flowing. With plenty of one on one challenging duals and plenty of high marking which is the only thing left that gets the crowd up on its feet.

Cheers

[Champ]

What would be Port's reason for staying with their current coach? Missing from finals for a long time now...

Sturt in my opinion need to again try something brand new like... winning, all I'm saying is when you finishh dead last the only way is up so make drastic change and take a chance, bring some excitement back and maybe... play through corridor.... or not....

[SDK]

One thing that could have helped Sunday was for the umpires to start paying some holding the ball decisions early. I am not a great fan of the AFL interpretation but when teams want to throw excess numbers on the ball the umpires need to take measures to open the game up .... take control and use some inituative.
Umpires are unable to make these decisions as they are puppets and can not think. They know NOTHING about football and the spirit of the game because 99% of them have never played the game.
Maybe that was what Gowans was saying ?

[heater31]

What would be Port's reason for staying with their current coach? Missing from finals for a long time now...

Sturt in my opinion need to again try something brand new like... winning, all I'm saying is when you finishh dead last the only way is up so make drastic change and take a chance, bring some excitement back and maybe... play through corridor.... or not....

Won 6 games with a rookie coach is not a bad start. Normally that amount of wins does not confine you to the foot of the table.....

[wild dog]

With a decent coach and game style West Adelaide would be a big threat for the flag. I believe West have the players to be more attacking and those big forwards would be very dangerous given more opportunity. Hard to get goals when it only comes down 6 times a game !
For football's sake I hope Collins does go home.

Collins doesn't think his forwards are attacking. After the Qualifying Final he defended his tactics on 5AA and indicated he would not be so defensive if he had forwards like Hardy and Obst.

[JK]

Sounds very netball but it was once the unwritten law of playing our great game which remaind open and free flowing.

It wasn't an unwritten law, it was just that no coach had come up with the idea.

Once it happened at the highest level it filtered down, and then as soon as one starts doing it, others follow suit to lessen the advantages of it, or to keep an average team from being blown away.

All clubs for a long time now have gotten numbers back behind the ball to varying degree's, IMHO it's more noticeable now due to a dramatically reduced skill level in our competition.

[maccad]

a bit of topic but in response to previouse post regarding rule change. at the start of every centre bounce all 6 forwards and defenders must start inside the forward 50, that would encourage either team to get ball inside their forward 50 before west can putt all their forwards in the backline. works in two ways the forwards would have to run all the way to defense and would then have to run all the way to their forward to be back inside their 50m line before the centre bounce otherwise a free is payed. i know people don't like rule changes but.

[FlyingHigh]

Sounds very netball but it was once the unwritten law of playing our great game which remaind open and free flowing.

It wasn't an unwritten law, it was just that no coach had come up with the idea.

Once it happened at the highest level it filtered down, and then as soon as one starts doing it, others follow suit to lessen the advantages of it, or to keep an average team from being blown away.

All clubs for a long time now have gotten numbers back behind the ball to varying degree's, IMHO it's more noticeable now due to a dramatically reduced skill level in our competition.

"varying degrees" being the operative words, JK. It's not like teams are only playing one loose in defence and the wings are starting on the defensive side of their wings.
Trouble is, then going forward, every kick has to be precise, and that is virtually impossible at our level on windy days like Sunday, or the pressure of finals, which was shown in the amount of turnovers West gave up in the 3rd quarter v Centrals.
Just don't understand how players can enjoy playing the game when it is taken the the degree West do.

[Big Phil]

One thing that could have helped Sunday was for the umpires to start paying some holding the ball decisions early. I am not a great fan of the AFL interpretation but when teams want to throw excess numbers on the ball the umpires need to take measures to open the game up .... take control and use some inituative.
Umpires are unable to make these decisions as they are puppets and can not think. They know NOTHING about football and the spirit of the game because 99% of them have never played the game.
Maybe that was what Gowans was saying ?

Didn't Tony Dey play some underage footy with the Magpies? Maybe that's why Groucho dislikes him so much?

[JK]

Sounds very netball but it was once the unwritten law of playing our great game which remaind open and free flowing.

It wasn't an unwritten law, it was just that no coach had come up with the idea.

Once it happened at the highest level it filtered down, and then as soon as one starts doing it, others follow suit to lessen the advantages of it, or to keep an average team from being blown away.

All clubs for a long time now have gotten numbers back behind the ball to varying degree's, IMHO it's more noticeable now due to a dramatically reduced skill level in our competition.

"varying degrees" being the operative words, JK. It's not like teams are only playing one loose in defence and the wings are starting on the defensive side of their wings.
Trouble is, then going forward, every kick has to be precise, and that is virtually impossible at our level on windy days like Sunday, or the pressure of finals, which was shown in the amount of turnovers West gave up in the 3rd quarter v Centrals.
Just don't understand how players can enjoy playing the game when it is taken the the degree West do.

No argument from me mate, agree with all of that .. It became easier to break down with quick ballmovement in the mid to late 2000's, and teams can still have better success with it if they move the ball fast and with precision as you've said, but sadly the drop in standard has meant this is much harder to do, especially with a midfield press.

[FlyingHigh]

Just to clarify, JK, I meant it was harder for teams playing that style like West to then go forward, as they generally only have one option, breaking down the wing of flank rather than relying on big forwards and then crumbers. Many times against the Eagles in the last game, coming out of defence they tried a kick over the top to the player running down the wing, but rolled out of bounds. The kick had to be absolutely precise, not just put to advantage, and I doubt SANFL skills have ever been that good to do this as often as required.

[RustyCage]

Both West and Norwood play the heavy flooding game plan, the difference is Norwood are disciplined enough to constantly run all day to make sure that when they have the ball, they have options to kick to. West didn't do that on the weekend, they were lazy, and that style of game doesn't work if you don't put the effort in

[NO-MERCY]

[quote="Champ"]What would be Port's reason for staying with their current coach? Missing from finals for a long time now...

I havn't heard he's been reappointed, where did your mail come from?

[holden78]

What would be Port's reason for staying with their current coach? Missing from finals for a long time now...

I havn't heard he's been reappointed, where did your mail come from?

We've heard it's player changes that will be most interesting at Port, no real suprise except maybe the names!