SAAFL Division 7 & D7R (2012)

[morell]

Yeah exactly, he played there when we were on their home deck as well.

I agree and think defenders get a bit of a bum deal with these sorts of things as there is always a multitude of midfielders to fit in and they tend to take one or two of the flank/pocket spots that might have been better going to an actual bona-fide defender.

One such name is ... Brad Steele. I know I know, he isn't the prettiest nor the best, but I would be damned if he has been beaten this year and is a little hairy rock in Mitchell Parks back pocket.

[marbles]

I'm with Hanzey, I also had a chat with Dan and he pretty much agreed that Ben would be in the top 3 or 4 players for TTG this year. Kind of makes sense then that he would be in very strong consideration for TOTY I would have thought as TTG have been very good all year.

Sorry marbles, you're wrong mate.

oohhh yerrrr so he's been in the top 6

how about every clubs top 6 go in the team of the year

as far as im concerned he made best player 5 times in 15 matches. meaning 10 matches were crap

but cos your all in love with Benny, he's in the team whether he gets a kick or not

So u jump on a band wagon Morell

i bet he'' hardly poll a vote tomorrow night

[morell]

[morell]

I'm with Hanzey, I also had a chat with Dan and he pretty much agreed that Ben would be in the top 3 or 4 players for TTG this year. Kind of makes sense then that he would be in very strong consideration for TOTY I would have thought as TTG have been very good all year.

Sorry marbles, you're wrong mate.

oohhh yerrrr so he's been in the top 6

He is in my team.

how about every clubs top 6 go in the team of the year

as far as im concerned he made best player 5 times in 15 matches. meaning 10 matches were crap

but cos your all in love with Benny, he's in the team whether he gets a kick or not

So u jump on a band wagon Morell

i bet he'' hardly poll a vote tomorrow night

Top 3 or 4 of the second best team in the comp. Behind a ruckman as well. Versatile, plays back, mid or forward. Great leader, very solid contributor week in week out. He is in my team, in BP's team, in Yanks team. In nearly everyone's team but yours. Also keep in mind that his brother, and probably harshest critic, does the Sporting Pulse votes for TTG.

Couldn't care less if he gets 0 votes in the umpires medal. They are rightly watching the game for indiscretions rather than picking random numbers to give votes to. Regardless if you're after more recognition for the lesser lights association medal night is the wrong place to be looking!

The best judges for TOTY are the coaches IMO.

[marbles]

I'm with Hanzey, I also had a chat with Dan and he pretty much agreed that Ben would be in the top 3 or 4 players for TTG this year. Kind of makes sense then that he would be in very strong consideration for TOTY I would have thought as TTG have been very good all year.

Sorry marbles, you're wrong mate.

Looking at the team Yank Man put up I wonder if Noske should be named on the interchange and not in a BP? How much time has he spent in the backlines this year? He went back there when we played TTG the first time but that was more to shake a tag then anything else. Is he stopping a genuine BP from a spot in the team? I think he should be in the team because was fantastic both times we played TTG just not sure if he should be BP. Something different to think about

agreed

[marbles]

and thank god for this forum where people can at least ask and enquire why it is so

meanwhile why is the team including wilson & loveder from henley??

and lets have morell explain it to us

[double-blue]

All i know is the mexican wave started by the ... marion football club ... At the back of the hanks stand was awesome.

is that what was goin on, thought it was the MP boys havin too many brews

Never. Not once has that happened. Neither were the calls for the mighty Tea Gully Beach Whales appropriate. I think even a few "sort it out marbles!" were heard as well. The Marion Football Cub need to look at their players behaviour IMHO.

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In other news, great game by the MPFC B Grade. First finals victory for as long as I have been at the club.

Very sad to see everyones favourite player Johnny Byrne head back to Ireland after the game though. For those that don’t know his story – Johnny come over to Australia late last year I think and heard a bit of commotion at the Den during a training. Came and had a look and Troy Pots and Joe Leck went over to say hello as you do. Turns out he played quite elite level Gaelic back home and said he wouldn’t mind having a crack at “AFL”. So out he came and he blew everyone away with his enthusiasm, humility and let’s be honest, hilarious accent.

All the best Irish, you’re a Mitty Park Lion now mate!

Was a good game, although a few of the Mitchell Park lads going the knuckle wasn't called for

[morell]

Ha! Thats a bit rich, tell that to Quigley who started it all by belting the smallest bloke on our side behind the play, who in turn required a trainer and assistance off the field. Far out the hypocrisy that spews from the SHOC football club sometimes is astounding.

Follow some logic here with me. Why would a team that has the game in the bag, in an elimination final, decide to go the knuckle, unless of course it was reactionary/sticking up for a team mate? Do you think it might make a bit more sense that perhaps, the team whose season was ending in front of them and had nothing to lose, might instead start some fights?

Its ok though, you will be able to get more players back next week. Wait, wut?

[morell]

and thank god for this forum where people can at least ask and enquire why it is so

meanwhile why is the team including wilson & loveder from henley??

and lets have morell explain it to us

No need to get snarky wee-man, its not my fault you're wrong.

[marbles]

and thank god for this forum where people can at least ask and enquire why it is so

meanwhile why is the team including wilson & loveder from henley??

and lets have morell explain it to us

No need to get snarky wee-man, its not my fault you're wrong.

Nope morell is wrong

[Yank Man]

and thank god for this forum where people can at least ask and enquire why it is so

meanwhile why is the team including wilson & loveder from henley??

and lets have morell explain it to us

Daryl, what I put on here was for point of discussion and for people not to get smart-arse about. The pro forma was not the team but some suggestions from coaches, watchers and credible people. What we in Div 7 are looking for is sensible debate to ensure the right players do actually get in. Otherwise we leave it to someone who does actually sit behind a computer and take it off SP. You can bet that if that happens they WILL get it horribly wrong because the bottom 4 teams would fill the spots as their best 2 or 3 would be in the paper every week. Noske was a suggestion of mine because I rate him as the best leader in the comp, an on field general and the best voiced player we have seen. It was just a proposal, but I do rate him as in the best 21 or 22 in the league. Sometimes you don't have to be the best player to be the best player, so to speak. So if everyone can continue to have input in a more positive way that would be great. It won't be decided upon for a few more weeks so maybe look at how the Div 6 posters are handling it. Good discussion and professionally. For the record I am not selecting this team, only helping via this forum, just in case you thought otherwise. Wilson because he is your leading goalscorer, Lovedar because one of your forum mates thought he was a top liner. Again, just put it out there for discussion but you clearly don't rate them.

[marbles]

All good. This discussion process is creating the best team possible. By questioning the noske inclusion we hav all heard very good reasons now as to why and like me all non posting readers can be convinced. Well done to kid

For darryls sake im not darryl im just a spectator at the club who played in the 90s

Just because my opinion may sometimes be conflicting doesnt mean its not useful as I represent those who dont hav the courage to stand up & say wtf

Hopefully those who had a brilliant year dont miss out because of other players big name precendence. Thats my only concern as now noske spot can just be justified

[Pacman]

Well I think we have had a lot of banter about the Team of the Year..... Now I would like to discuss another point of conjecture that has popped up since the fixture for this weeks finals have been released by the SAAFL for Div 7 & 7R.... To be quite honest I think it is a disgrace!!

Now hear me out, and yes I realise that 'B' grade (or D grade) teams can not 'buy' home finals.....

Div 7
Mitchell Park v Tea Tree Gully - Mitchell Park Oval........... No dramas there at all.... top spot is rewarded with a home ground semi final.
Henley v Angle Vale - Henley Memorial Oval....... Again no dramas there.... Henley after finishing 3rd and having the double chance are rewarded with a home semi final.

This is where I can not comprehend what the SAAFL were thinking????

Div 7R
Flinders Park v Tea Tree Gully - Henley Memorial Oval..... Flinders Park the home team so at a neutral ground (fair enough)
HOWEVER.....
Henley v Mitchell Park - Mitchell Park Oval..... How did Mitchell Park B grade earn a home final against a team that finished higher on the ladder than them and technically should have the 'home ground' advantage???? Especially considering Henley's C grade are playing at home???? What happens here??? Do Henley get rights to the home change rooms at MP etc, wear their home strip??? This has effectively disadvantaged both Henley and TTG as their support staff, supporters, etc have to travel to two different grounds, or they need to get more hands on deck to help out!!! This has disadvantaged two clubs that both their teams in this comp finished in a higher position, earning the double chance and effectively 'home/neutral' final venues.....

Why wouldnt the SAAFL have scheduled the games as follows????

Mitchell Park Oval
Div 7 - Mitchell Park v TTG 2.00pm
Div 7R - Flinders Park v TTG 11.45am

Henley Memorial Oval
Div 7 - Henley v Angle Vale 2.00 pm
Div 7R - Henley v Mitchell Park 11.45 am

This way only one of the clubs would have been put that the disadvantage (being Mitchell Park) however their B's came through the Elimination Final so fair is fair.....

[marbles]

With wilson, who is always a good ball getter, we spent most of year watchin him gain possession down back then due to nightclubbing habits the night before would turn it over most times to the opposition with wayward kicks. So late in season we moved him up foward to instead concentrate his kicking towards the goal posts. It paid off and to kick such a big bag in 2nd half of season was outstanding as he now wishes he was up forward the whole season as his tally may have been twice as big

If u asked loveder how his season has been he'd probably tell u its been way too inconsistent. Has played some good games but the high standard he is known for around the league has seen him being double teamed alot at CHF which is a hard enough position to play. i think he's won 3 BnFs at our club but this year a few too many quiet games.

Id hope to see little barrel tom pearce in this side instead (who I only met last year and am no relation too). His consistency has been terrific and to kick nearly 30 goals as a midfielder he'd be second to none. Surprised not to see him invited to medal count in top 10. Rather see him on the flank than wilson

[marbles]

The home finals are paid for by the club, $1000??

MP being the higher finishing paying club wins the right to hav their reserves at home.

MPs $1000 gets the higher precedence than henleys $1000 cos they finished higher

[lutz]

Why wouldnt the SAAFL have scheduled the games as follows????

Mitchell Park Oval
Div 7 - Mitchell Park v TTG 2.00pm
Div 7R - Flinders Park v TTG 11.45am

Henley Memorial Oval
Div 7 - Henley v Angle Vale 2.00 pm
Div 7R - Henley v Mitchell Park 11.45 am

This way only one of the clubs would have been put that the disadvantage (being Mitchell Park) however their B's came through the Elimination Final so fair is fair.....

I agree Pacman, I think your suggestion is how it should have been scheduled...

[BPwizard]

I think the TOTY year looks good and every player in there has earnt there spot there is always going to be people who have different opinions and players who have had good years that miss out. 10 teams 21 players per team most likely an average of 12 players each team who have played enough games to be up for selection so you have to fit 21 players in team from an approx. selection of 120 names. I would be very happy to coach that side and i could say i would like another one or two of the players i coach but thats because i coach them.
I am big believer that ur on field leadership can sometimes out way you performances and get u in selection, but i think Noske is a top line player in Div 7, we played them twice and 1st time tagged him out the game but second time he beat the tag but his voice and quality of his possesions was gr8 to watch.
Henley Lovedar plays CHF and i would say his work ethic may not have gr8 games but never gives up and continually leads and battles and when we played Henley second time in year him and Rossack had one of the best battles i have seen this year. Tom Pearce rest off the ball in the Forward Pocket and is that where he kicks his goals or does he kick them when only playing on the ball. Big difference when rating a player if he kicks them as a midfield that is good but you will find when he has swaped to FP is when he kicks most of them. Very handy player thou just a question.

Morrell i would agree Steele has had a good year in the BP and both games against us was a general back there and a standout as a small defender this year.

Thanks Lutz for clearing up some names for me.

[Yank Man]

With wilson, who is always a good ball getter, we spent most of year watchin him gain possession down back then due to nightclubbing habits the night before would turn it over most times to the opposition with wayward kicks. So late in season we moved him up foward to instead concentrate his kicking towards the goal posts. It paid off and to kick such a big bag in 2nd half of season was outstanding as he now wishes he was up forward the whole season as his tally may have been twice as big

If u asked loveder how his season has been he'd probably tell u its been way too inconsistent. Has played some good games but the high standard he is known for around the league has seen him being double teamed alot at CHF which is a hard enough position to play. i think he's won 3 BnFs at our club but this year a few too many quiet games.

Id hope to see little barrel tom pearce in this side instead (who I only met last year and am no relation too). His consistency has been terrific and to kick nearly 30 goals as a midfielder he'd be second to none. Surprised not to see him invited to medal count in top 10. Rather see him on the flank than wilson

That's what we are looking for. Pearce would be a good in and who were Henley's 2 invitees? MP's were Nat Mac and Mark Harrison.

[The Cows]

I don't understand why you wouldn't post your best players on the day on the internet and also at the club saturday night?? Give the players the credit they deserve. If a coach hasn't got 5 mins after a game to discuss your best players with the team manager..... gee. The best players should stick out in most games. Most young fella's these days live on the internet and to think they don't check the site for results is just naive. I know at FP we post accurate info. By the way good to see no FP players in the supposed team of the year. Not that we really give a toss anyway!!!

Who would you nominate from FP to be in the team of the year Cows? One thing about your team is I always struggled to find a stand out from you blokes both times we played FP. I always felt you had such an even spread across the board which probably went right through your D grade aswell. Although in saying that the first time we played FP at your ground one of your midfielders was really good but I never paid attention to his name. I dont think he played against us the second time.

Well bigshow first up would be Daniel Byrnes. Played CHF in the last game we played against you guys. Played years of A grade at FP at CHB (Has also made the SAAFL state side) so shows he can play both ends very well.
Also Malcolm Pitcher. A grade premiership player from last year.
As i didn't get to play against TTG ,MP or henley i don't know how good these guys are that are being mentioned on here . However i did get to play both games agaist your lads.

[morell]

Pacman, I agree with you in principle, I think its just a logistic thing, Mitchell Park reserves benefit from it no doubt, but it kind of makes sense that as both of our sides are in the finals and can play at the same ground. Happens to be our ground so we luck out. One of those things I guess. Just like when Brisbane played (and won) their pre-lim at the MCG even when it wasn't their home ground, you just have to work with it and do your best.

The one saving grace I guess is that at least its at Mitchell Park, we have good facilities, a good oval and its not too far for the Henely lads to travel compared to other options so it's not a massive advantage.