Port Adelaide "off season" discussion thread

[JK]

Even off ORDB's list Matt Thomas and Danyle Pearce (if he can find his potential again) is the only true quality, Chaplin, Carlile and Logan are just triers IMO.

And even these two have some pretty decent deficiencies a fair bit of the time (hate saying that about Tommy coz he's a ripper lad)

[CUTTERMAN]

Even off ORDB's list Matt Thomas and Danyle Pearce (if he can find his potential again) is the only true quality, Chaplin, Carlile and Logan are just triers IMO.

And even these two have some pretty decent deficiencies a fair bit of the time (hate saying that about Tommy coz he's a ripper lad)

Salopak

[jumbo20]

Who is on the Port board?

[Sky Pilot]

Who is on the Port board?

Ronald McDonald, Snow White and most of the seven dwarves I think. Oh and the guy who mows the oval at Alberton.

[JK]

Who is on the Port board?

the guy who mows the oval at Alberton.

Bill Vis? (sp??)

[Jimmy_041]

[Sky Pilot]

Who is on the Port board?

the guy who mows the oval at Alberton.

Bill Vis? (sp??)

Yeah sounds right. He's got a permanent parking spot at Centrelink I reckon

[FlyingHigh]

That is a staggering list of footballers who haven't made it. All clubs make mistakes and not all players don't fulfill potential, but there must be/have been something seriously wrong with the player recruitment, development and/or welfare at the Power over the last ten years. Perhaps the successes they were having with great players recruited in the mid-90's, Wilson, Francou, Tredrea, Lade, James, Primus, made them a bit complacent in this area?
Even off ORDB's list Matt Thomas and Danyle Pearce (if he can find his potential again) is the only true quality, Chaplin, Carlile and Logan are just triers IMO.

This is the essence of what I'm trying to say without sinking the boots in - don't know who was responsible for recruiting during this period - the strike rate is disgraceful.

In retrospect more likely to the be recruiting than the welfare or development as there's not many of those players who have gone on to succeed at other clubs.
FWIW I like watching and admire Logan and they have probably got value out of him being rookie pick, but unfortunately his is more of a 1980's style than an athletes' style.

[whufc]

That is a staggering list of footballers who haven't made it. All clubs make mistakes and not all players don't fulfill potential, but there must be/have been something seriously wrong with the player recruitment, development and/or welfare at the Power over the last ten years. Perhaps the successes they were having with great players recruited in the mid-90's, Wilson, Francou, Tredrea, Lade, James, Primus, made them a bit complacent in this area?
Even off ORDB's list Matt Thomas and Danyle Pearce (if he can find his potential again) is the only true quality, Chaplin, Carlile and Logan are just triers IMO.

This is the essence of what I'm trying to say without sinking the boots in - don't know who was responsible for recruiting during this period - the strike rate is disgraceful.

In retrospect more likely to the be recruiting than the welfare or development as there's not many of those players who have gone on to succeed at other clubs.
FWIW I like watching and admire Logan and they have probably got value out of him being rookie pick, but unfortunately his is more of a 1980's style than an athletes' style.

Danny Boyle was a huge mistake, he was only a servicable SANFL reserves player.

Ryan Williams was also another, he has become a quality SANFL player but at times his disposal lets him down.

[GWW]

Re Port's current situation, and the financial support that is given to the various clubs, I saw an article quoting ex AFL boss, Wayne Jackson, who has some interesting things to say.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/a ... 6447870779

At the start of 2012 Port had a better winning percentage than arch-rival Adelaide.

The supposed basket case's win/loss ratio of 51.9 per cent compared with the Bulldogs' 45.5, the Dockers' 40.3, and the Saints' 39.5.

Port won the premiership in 2004, exactly 50 years after the Bulldogs' only premiership and 40 years since Melbourne's most recent triumph. St Kilda's only premiership was in 1966.

And of course the Bulldogs, Melbourne and St Kilda flags in question were won in the VFL.

Before entering the AFL, Port won SANFL premierships in 1988, 1989, 1990, 1992, 1994, 1995, 1996 . . . well, you get the picture.

Port made the finals in its third year in the AFL, starting a run of seven finals appearances in nine years, ending with the 2007 grand final.

Former AFL boss Wayne Jackson has defended Port Adelaide, saying the attacks on the Power reeks of a Victorian-centric culture.

"The Victorian press is so fond of talking about interstate clubs," Jackson told The Weekend Australian. But in a national competition there's no such thing as an interstate club. They're all interstate clubs."

Jackson said charges Port was a drain on the competition were easily countered by flipping through the other clubs' books.

"The financial support given to Port would be significantly less than that given to Melbourne, the Western Bulldogs, North Melbourne and the two (new) franchise clubs."

Jackson said that for the foreseeable future the AFL was committed to the league's present structure.

[CUTTERMAN]

Helloooo! Deja-vu?
Reckon I've been saying the same thing

[ORDoubleBlues]

"The Victorian press is so fond of talking about interstate clubs," Jackson told The Weekend Australian. But in a national competition there's no such thing as an interstate club. They're all interstate clubs."
Jackson said that for the foreseeable future the AFL was committed to the league's present structure.

You've only got to hear Caroline Wilson saying that "it would feel funny to have no preliminary final in Melbourne" on a Monday night to realise there's still a few even now over there that have a difficulty in understanding the concept of a national competition and that's IMHO why the Victorians didn't like Jackson - because he looked at all clubs being equal.

[valleys07]

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl ... 6450435859

I wish the coaches association were used for the successor to williams....

[Lightning McQueen]

Seems to me that Wallace is already making excuses for certain failure.

[valleys07]

Yeah I would be filthy if port selected Wallace to take over.

[HH3]

With the player list problems at Port, why would you pick Wallace as your coach? He'd have one of the worst records of recruiting players.

[gossipgirl]

With the player list problems at Port, why would you pick Wallace as your coach? He'd have one of the worst records of recruiting players.

not sure he has ever been a recruiting manager before

[RustyCage]

With the player list problems at Port, why would you pick Wallace as your coach? He'd have one of the worst records of recruiting players.

not sure he has ever been a recruiting manager before

Coach has a big day in who comes to the club

[Phantom Gossiper]

Hard to recruit lots of quality kids when the GC & GWS have such an influence on the draft. Would Port have been so bad if they had the opportunity to recruit some of the GC or GWS players over the past few years?

[JK]

Hard to recruit lots of quality kids when the GC & GWS have such an influence on the draft. Would Port have been so bad if they had the opportunity to recruit some of the GC or GWS players over the past few years?

Not if they drafted the right ones, but how much confidence anyone could have that it would have happened Im not sure? The fact remains they knew these clubs were coming in well beforehand.