Finals Eligibility for players

[finn]

In the past it's been that you had to have played a majority in the lower grade unless the higher grade is in the finals as well where players can slide.

In the past 50 percent lower and fifty higher permits have been knocked back when the upper grade games have been the more recently played.

Here is an example: A player has played let's say 9 games in the B grade and 6 in the A Grade. So his ratio is more B grade played.
However, he played predominately A grade in the second half of the year to get those 6 games. Is he eligible to drop down back to the B grade in finals?

If he's played more games down below than higher he's eligible for that grade - unless
a - the higher grade has been knocked out of the finals and he was playing in that higher grade - player can't return
b - the higher grade games take him to 50% of total games played - then a permit is required

[S Demon]

In the past it's been that you had to have played a majority in the lower grade unless the higher grade is in the finals as well where players can slide.

In the past 50 percent lower and fifty higher permits have been knocked back when the upper grade games have been the more recently played.

Here is an example: A player has played let's say 9 games in the B grade and 6 in the A Grade. So his ratio is more B grade played.
However, he played predominately A grade in the second half of the year to get those 6 games. Is he eligible to drop down back to the B grade in finals?

If he's played more games down below than higher he's eligible for that grade - unless
a - the higher grade has been knocked out of the finals and he was playing in that higher grade - player can't return
b - the higher grade games take him to 50% of total games played - then a permit is required

I'm not so sure about that

[S Demon]

In the past it's been that you had to have played a majority in the lower grade unless the higher grade is in the finals as well where players can slide.

If players play up and that side is knocked out of the finals, they can play down with a permit provided they have met the existing finals criteria ie played a majority of games in the lower side.

In the past 50 percent lower and fifty higher permits have been knocked back when the upper grade games have been the more recently played.

Here is an example: A player has played let's say 9 games in the B grade and 6 in the A Grade. So his ratio is more B grade played.
However, he played predominately A grade in the second half of the year to get those 6 games. Is he eligible to drop down back to the B grade in finals?

Yes.

[Dazzler]

A query that is pretty specific to WSFC, if the A grade is in the finals but has the week off, how do they determine who can play in the B's? It is not clear from the regulations on the website. From what I am reading it appears there is free exchange of players, but surely there would have to be some ruling to stop a club playing their entire A grade in the B's for a week? (not that I think any club would do this, but would think the SAAFL would have something in place to avoid this).

[Executive Member]

A query that is pretty specific to WSFC, if the A grade is in the finals but has the week off, how do they determine who can play in the B's? It is not clear from the regulations on the website. From what I am reading it appears there is free exchange of players, but surely there would have to be some ruling to stop a club playing their entire A grade in the B's for a week? (not that I think any club would do this, but would think the SAAFL would have something in place to avoid this).

Use to be you had to name a team and could only make 2 changes from the named team - clubs changed it to open selection - if a club wants to play their A Grade this week then they can

[S Demon]

A query that is pretty specific to WSFC, if the A grade is in the finals but has the week off, how do they determine who can play in the B's? It is not clear from the regulations on the website. From what I am reading it appears there is free exchange of players, but surely there would have to be some ruling to stop a club playing their entire A grade in the B's for a week? (not that I think any club would do this, but would think the SAAFL would have something in place to avoid this).

Use to be you had to name a team and could only make 2 changes from the named team - clubs changed it to open selection - if a club wants to play their A Grade this week then they can

It gives TTG, Brahma Lodge and Woodville South the option of playing A graders in the B grade this week. Does this also apply to clubs C and D grade sides? Or is there something in place that you can't go down 2 grades?

[Dazzler]

A query that is pretty specific to WSFC, if the A grade is in the finals but has the week off, how do they determine who can play in the B's? It is not clear from the regulations on the website. From what I am reading it appears there is free exchange of players, but surely there would have to be some ruling to stop a club playing their entire A grade in the B's for a week? (not that I think any club would do this, but would think the SAAFL would have something in place to avoid this).

Use to be you had to name a team and could only make 2 changes from the named team - clubs changed it to open selection - if a club wants to play their A Grade this week then they can

It gives TTG, Brahma Lodge and Woodville South the option of playing A graders in the B grade this week. Does this also apply to clubs C and D grade sides? Or is there something in place that you can't go down 2 grades?

The Rule & Regs do state the exchange is between consecutive grades, so A grade to C grade would not be allowed.

[Executive Member]

A query that is pretty specific to WSFC, if the A grade is in the finals but has the week off, how do they determine who can play in the B's? It is not clear from the regulations on the website. From what I am reading it appears there is free exchange of players, but surely there would have to be some ruling to stop a club playing their entire A grade in the B's for a week? (not that I think any club would do this, but would think the SAAFL would have something in place to avoid this).

Use to be you had to name a team and could only make 2 changes from the named team - clubs changed it to open selection - if a club wants to play their A Grade this week then they can

It gives TTG, Brahma Lodge and Woodville South the option of playing A graders in the B grade this week. Does this also apply to clubs C and D grade sides? Or is there something in place that you can't go down 2 grades?

They can play anywhere not sure you would play A Grade players in C Grade unless they were unavailble on the Saturday for some strange reason

[S Demon]

They can play anywhere not sure you would play A Grade players in C Grade unless they were unavailble on the Saturday for some strange reason

What if their A and B grade both finished top?

[Haynzy]

They can play anywhere not sure you would play A Grade players in C Grade unless they were unavailble on the Saturday for some strange reason

What if their A and B grade both finished top?

That's what I was wondering. We are playing Henley C grade this week and it seems crazy that they would be allowed to drop a whole heap from their B grade down because they have the week off.

[Q.]

It doesn't make a lot of sense to drop half a team down, but it works to drop maybe two or three and it's within the rules now.

[Bigshow82]

They can play anywhere not sure you would play A Grade players in C Grade unless they were unavailble on the Saturday for some strange reason

What if their A and B grade both finished top?

That's what I was wondering. We are playing Henley C grade this week and it seems crazy that they would be allowed to drop a whole heap from their B grade down because they have the week off.

They dont have the week off this week. Could this become an issue next week though?

[Haynzy]

"A player who played in a Division 1 or Division 1 Reserves match preceding the stand alone Division 1 and Division 1 Reserves bye or in the round of matches preceding the first week of the Division 1 and Division 1 Reserves major round matches, shall not play in a match in any Division of the League except for Division 1 and Division 1 Reserves in the following round of matches unless the player has played the majority of his matches in the current season in the lower Division preceding such two rounds of matches"

I think this answers my concerns, but seems that it could be an issue for whoever plays them the week after.

How do any clubs know who can and can't play. The wording in the rules is very confusing

[Jimmy_041]

I would suggest you e-mail or ring the office and get some concrete advice before doing anything.

[SATCHEL]

What time was it roughly are we able to view permits for the finals?

[kickinit]

In the past it's been that you had to have played a majority in the lower grade unless the higher grade is in the finals as well where players can slide.

In the past 50 percent lower and fifty higher permits have been knocked back when the upper grade games have been the more recently played.

Here is an example: A player has played let's say 9 games in the B grade and 6 in the A Grade. So his ratio is more B grade played.
However, he played predominately A grade in the second half of the year to get those 6 games. Is he eligible to drop down back to the B grade in finals?

If he's played more games down below than higher he's eligible for that grade - unless
a - the higher grade has been knocked out of the finals and he was playing in that higher grade - player can't returnb - the higher grade games take him to 50% of total games played - then a permit is required

Wrong
If a Member Club‟s higher Division team is no longer playing in the major round:
(a) a player may return to the lower Division for the remainder of any major round matches provided such player played the majority of his minor round matches for the season in the lower Division.

[Bluedemon]

will they show a listing of who did or didnt get permits on the saafl website?

[woodublieve12]

will they show a listing of who did or didnt get permits on the saafl website?

They usually do I reckon...

[Executive Member]

will they show a listing of who did or didnt get permits on the saafl website?

I know Clubs have been notified and that it should go up on website sometime this morning

[SATCHEL]

Without repeating a question or getting the same answer as tehre are so many in here at the moment. If a club has all 3 grades in the finals. Whats the ruling on dopping players that have not registered the minnimum requirmnet for the lower grade. I.e. 17 games B grade and 1 C grade now play first C grade final? There are varying numbers of games in different grades. Just curious on the ruling