HFL Division 2 (Country)

[old fullback]

This Cally stuff has been going on for too long now,are the board at HFL just hoping Cally will go away? they wont as Cally's committee think their the bees knees.

Not good
Think it was 120 goals to 1 across the 3 grades

"Bees knees" Jim05. Haven't heard that expression in years. You're older than I am but definitely agree with your comment.

Woops! that comment was yours old fullback.

[No Respect]

unconfirmed report from the weekend of Lachlan fleet red card in B grade for echunga? will this mean will miss a finals game or do you not miss a game for 2 yellows?

[Caramels]

Please HFL Board can you make a ruling about United Eagles and make it soon?

No they can't as it takes' balls' to make a hard call and there wouldn't be a pair between them!

[Alaska]

unconfirmed report from the weekend of Lachlan fleet red card in B grade for echunga? will this mean will miss a finals game or do you not miss a game for 2 yellows?

No two Yellows to Tex Edmonds.

Interesting item from the Eagles in the Final Siren in the Club news section, speaking about the future and aspirations for next year.

[Champ]

Does the HFL and it's current clubs not actually understand that anything close to a 10 goal margin is considered a thumping! Why have people seemingly come acustomed to the 20+ goal thrashing that happen weekly; for example now people actually judge the strength of the better teams by how much they beat the lower ranked teams! That's not good for footy in any competition!

The HFL and the SFL for that matter are making South Australian Football look very ordinary in terms of quality and output.

This all has to stop for the betterment of the game.

1) Change the competition format
2) Initiate a concrete promotion/relegation system
3) Re-zone the junior competition
4) Limit Junior registrations per age group in each club
5) Ensure ALL home clubs with juniors have the full compliment playing at home that week.
6) DO NOT SPLIT JUNIOR/SENIOR playing days/ovals! That is disasterous!
7) Reward ALL teams for finishing as far up the ladder as possible with a home final every week accept prelim and gf.
Shake callington and wake them up
9) Send sedan and birdwood to the Riverland and BLG respectively
10) Hug the players more often
11) Merge all the netball together to be one big love fest
12) Hug the netballers more often
13) Have really big piss ups with all the footballers and netballers together
Problem solved

[hamish]

I think you will find that the HFL can not remove the Callington football club the league.
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This can be only done by the clubs at an AGM ,and if my information is correct only Nairne and Birdwood football clubs are pushing for Cally to be forced out

But putting Cally to div 3 is up to the HFL

[The Gimp]

I think you will find that the HFL can not remove the Callington football club the league.
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This can be only done by the clubs at an AGM ,and if my information is correct only Nairne and Birdwood football clubs are pushing for Cally to be forced out

But putting Cally to div 3 is up to the HFL

Birdwood aren't pushing for Cally to be forced out. We want to see them play in a more suited division, the C grade.

[RooShootOhh]

Does the HFL and it's current clubs not actually understand that anything close to a 10 goal margin is considered a thumping! Why have people seemingly come acustomed to the 20+ goal thrashing that happen weekly; for example now people actually judge the strength of the better teams by how much they beat the lower ranked teams! That's not good for footy in any competition!

The HFL and the SFL for that matter are making South Australian Football look very ordinary in terms of quality and output.

This all has to stop for the betterment of the game.

1) Change the competition format
2) Initiate a concrete promotion/relegation system
3) Re-zone the junior competition
4) Limit Junior registrations per age group in each club
5) Ensure ALL home clubs with juniors have the full compliment playing at home that week.
6) DO NOT SPLIT JUNIOR/SENIOR playing days/ovals! That is disasterous!
7) Reward ALL teams for finishing as far up the ladder as possible with a home final every week accept prelim and gf.
Shake callington and wake them up
9) Send sedan and birdwood to the Riverland and BLG respectively
10) Hug the players more often
11) Merge all the netball together to be one big love fest
12) Hug the netballers more often
13) Have really big piss ups with all the footballers and netballers together
Problem solved

SOme good, valid points there, but I have to disagree with point 4, I assume you think that by limiting the numbers at each club you will avoid having a club with huge numbers and clubs with less numbers will get the leftovers.

A few issues with that:

A) It won't happen, kids wont go play in another club JUST because their club has enough numbers, Nor will their parents drive them either most likely, otherwise that would probably already happen if they just wanted to play footy
B) Who choses which kids you accept and don't accept, do kids get to play with their best mates or play where their Dad played, or get shipped off because they are not in the best 25-30 kids at the club

There is probably a few other points I could go through, but at the end of the day, all that will happen by limiting junior registrations is that kids will get pushed away from the sport and they wont return, and no-one in footy circles wants to see that!

However, love the point about hugging the netballers, do you think they will mind hugging someone as old as their grand-dad?

[Champ]

Does the HFL and it's current clubs not actually understand that anything close to a 10 goal margin is considered a thumping! Why have people seemingly come acustomed to the 20+ goal thrashing that happen weekly; for example now people actually judge the strength of the better teams by how much they beat the lower ranked teams! That's not good for footy in any competition!

The HFL and the SFL for that matter are making South Australian Football look very ordinary in terms of quality and output.

This all has to stop for the betterment of the game.

1) Change the competition format
2) Initiate a concrete promotion/relegation system
3) Re-zone the junior competition
4) Limit Junior registrations per age group in each club
5) Ensure ALL home clubs with juniors have the full compliment playing at home that week.
6) DO NOT SPLIT JUNIOR/SENIOR playing days/ovals! That is disasterous!
7) Reward ALL teams for finishing as far up the ladder as possible with a home final every week accept prelim and gf.
Shake callington and wake them up
9) Send sedan and birdwood to the Riverland and BLG respectively
10) Hug the players more often
11) Merge all the netball together to be one big love fest
12) Hug the netballers more often
13) Have really big piss ups with all the footballers and netballers together
Problem solved

SOme good, valid points there, but I have to disagree with point 4, I assume you think that by limiting the numbers at each club you will avoid having a club with huge numbers and clubs with less numbers will get the leftovers.

A few issues with that:

A) It won't happen, kids wont go play in another club JUST because their club has enough numbers, Nor will their parents drive them either most likely, otherwise that would probably already happen if they just wanted to play footy
B) Who choses which kids you accept and don't accept, do kids get to play with their best mates or play where their Dad played, or get shipped off because they are not in the best 25-30 kids at the club

There is probably a few other points I could go through, but at the end of the day, all that will happen by limiting junior registrations is that kids will get pushed away from the sport and they wont return, and no-one in footy circles wants to see that!

However, love the point about hugging the netballers, do you think they will mind hugging someone as old as their grand-dad?

I get the impresion kids are getting pushed away from teh sport now... there are so many clubs without adequate numbers or even teams. The HFL proposed idea of spluitting the juniors and seniors is also a nightmare as parents wont want to drive to two ovals in the same day to support their kid/s and club so the HFL would end up being as boring and lifeless as the SAAFL on game days.

[Champ]

There will be no age limit on hugs.

[Droversdog]

Please HFL Board can you make a ruling about United Eagles and make it soon?

What happened today?

I believe they lost by around 60 goals. Apparently there were other issues but I can't comment as it would be heresay.

Still heresay, but fairly reliable heresay. Apparently an Eagles' football official grabbed a same-club spectator by the throat during a game and threatened him. Correct me if I'm wrong.

No you're not wrong Crumber, except that your description of events was a lot kinder than the actual happening. Just another day at Callington Oval. No wonder they have hardly any juniors.

[ORDoubleBlues]

I take it the big man stocks at Nairne must be a bit depleted at the moment if Troy Grainger is having to go up in the ruck against Sam Cranna.

[Esteban Vihaio]

Does the HFL and it's current clubs not actually understand that anything close to a 10 goal margin is considered a thumping! Why have people seemingly come acustomed to the 20+ goal thrashing that happen weekly; for example now people actually judge the strength of the better teams by how much they beat the lower ranked teams! That's not good for footy in any competition!

The HFL and the SFL for that matter are making South Australian Football look very ordinary in terms of quality and output.

This all has to stop for the betterment of the game.

1) Change the competition format
2) Initiate a concrete promotion/relegation system
3) Re-zone the junior competition
4) Limit Junior registrations per age group in each club
5) Ensure ALL home clubs with juniors have the full compliment playing at home that week.
6) DO NOT SPLIT JUNIOR/SENIOR playing days/ovals! That is disasterous!
7) Reward ALL teams for finishing as far up the ladder as possible with a home final every week accept prelim and gf.
Shake callington and wake them up
9) Send sedan and birdwood to the Riverland and BLG respectively
10) Hug the players more often
11) Merge all the netball together to be one big love fest
12) Hug the netballers more often
13) Have really big piss ups with all the footballers and netballers together
Problem solved

Sedan seem to have imrpoved substabtially this year. If they repeated this next year they may win as many as they lose

[Champ]

Yeah at the rate they're improving at they might make finals by 2023....
Let's keep it perspective, they've won two more games than last year, they're average losing margin has slightly increased and unfortunately the sides they've beaten are calling ton and the heavily depleted Macca who themselves have gone backward much like kangys a grade and a few others.

So is it improvement or is the rest of the comp simply getting pulled back due to a number of reasons?

[Hear the roar]

Please HFL Board can you make a ruling about United Eagles and make it soon?

I guess it's all well and good as we all sit here in front of our P.C's making comments about the ways in which we'd like the HFL to change its' ways. I'M JUST AS GUILTY as anyone in that respect. Maybe we all need to get our bums off our seats and request the Board distribute information about elections as in when they are held, who is entitled to stand, what experience do you need, how many hours are required etc. This Boy's Club has been a closed shop so far and we all need to open it if we're serious about our criticisms. The comments on this site make great reading and are knowledgeable, informative and reflect a huge cross-section of the HFL community. Our best action as far as I see is that we all flood the HFL with requests for information about the next election.

[Sherrin]

Div 1 - Mount Barker, Uraidla, Hahndorf, Ironbank, Lobethal, Onkaparinga Valley, Blackwood, Mount Lofty.

Div 2 - Bridgewater, Torrens Valley, Echunga, Kersbrook, Nairne, Meadows, Kangarilla, Gumeracha.

Div 3 - Blackwood, Mount Lofty, Ironbank, Milang, Macclesfield, Callington.

Birdwood to BLG, Sedan Cambrai to Riverland.

[Panther32]

Div 1 - Mount Barker, Uraidla, Hahndorf, Ironbank, Lobethal, Onkaparinga Valley, Blackwood, Mount Lofty.

Div 2 - Bridgewater, Torrens Valley, Echunga, Kersbrook, Nairne, Meadows, Kangarilla, Gumeracha.

Div 3 - Blackwood, Mount Lofty, Ironbank, Milang, Macclesfield, Callington.

Birdwood to BLG, Sedan Cambrai to Riverland.

6 teams in division 3 isn't going to work. Keep Sedan in div 3, I would be dropping Gumeracha and Kangarilla to div 3 and promoting Blackwood to div 2 and keeping Birdwood in div 2.

[Bat Pad]

Div 1 - Mount Barker, Uraidla, Hahndorf, Ironbank, Lobethal, Onkaparinga Valley, Blackwood, Mount Lofty.

Div 2 - Bridgewater, Torrens Valley, Echunga, Kersbrook, Nairne, Meadows, Kangarilla, Gumeracha.

Div 3 - Blackwood, Mount Lofty, Ironbank, Milang, Macclesfield, Callington.

Birdwood to BLG, Sedan Cambrai to Riverland.

6 teams in division 3 isn't going to work. Keep Sedan in div 3, I would be dropping Gumeracha and Kangarilla to div 3 and promoting Blackwood to div 2 and keeping Birdwood in div 2.

I would say Div 3 would be 6 teams at worst in that set up. Mt Barker, Hahndorf, Onkas and Uraidla have all had C Grades recently. The problem for these clubs is that they could get at least 15 players most weeks, but a few injuries in the A's or B's would stop them from filling the full compliment. I know Hahndorf have 15+ senior colts coming up to senior footy next year, so a C Grade is definitely a possibility. Other clubs may be similar.

[outsmarts]

In a perfect world this would be the solution
Div 1- Mt barker, Uri, handorf, Ironbank, Onkas, Blackwood, Lobey, mt lofty, Birdwood, Echunga
These are the strongest sides in the seniors and have good juniors, it’s the best clubs in the hills and they start first year in div 1 and we follow on through promotion relegation with the best club as a whole coming up, not just the winning A grade side.

Div 2 would consist of- Bridgewater, Torrens Valley, Kersbrook, Nairne, Meadows, Kangarilla, Gumeracha, sedan, maccy
I would keep maccy and sedan and give them another year to try improve, Callington have had many years and their time has run out, sedan and maccy could still turn things around and will have to if they want to stay above relegation. This competition speaking from an A grade view would be close and hopefully sedan and maccy stay competitive, but the removal of Callington would ease pressures no end.
Div 3- Callington, Milang, Blackwood, mt barker, lofty, ironbank, handoff, Uraidla, cornerstone (maybe in a few years time)
This would give milling and Callington and maybe in the future cornerstone the best chance of rising through the ranks into a competitive div 2 club and further in the future who knows.
Now I know this won’t happen for many reasons but just my opinion on the best option.

[Champ]

In a perfect world this would be the solution
Div 1- Mt barker, Uri, handorf, Ironbank, Onkas, Blackwood, Lobey, mt lofty, Birdwood, Echunga
These are the strongest sides in the seniors and have good juniors, it’s the best clubs in the hills and they start first year in div 1 and we follow on through promotion relegation with the best club as a whole coming up, not just the winning A grade side.

Div 2 would consist of- Bridgewater, Torrens Valley, Kersbrook, Nairne, Meadows, Kangarilla, Gumeracha, sedan, maccy
I would keep maccy and sedan and give them another year to try improve, Callington have had many years and their time has run out, sedan and maccy could still turn things around and will have to if they want to stay above relegation. This competition speaking from an A grade view would be close and hopefully sedan and maccy stay competitive, but the removal of Callington would ease pressures no end.
Div 3- Callington, Milang, Blackwood, mt barker, lofty, ironbank, handoff, Uraidla, cornerstone (maybe in a few years time)
This would give milling and Callington and maybe in the future cornerstone the best chance of rising through the ranks into a competitive div 2 club and further in the future who knows.
Now I know this won’t happen for many reasons but just my opinion on the best option.

Make perfect sense! No real reason why it shouldn't happen. The clubs with juniors only need to fill juniors in div 1 and 2 not 'c'grade'
C'grade plays either after their div 1/2 team or on Friday night/Sunday.
No club can have two teams in the same div.
Players need to qualify and apply for permit as they do now to play finals in each grade/higher grasde for their club.
The promotion/relegation is set and stuck to! Side are on notice they are dropped with no arguments if they come last. The only resbite is if a grand final side doesn't tick all the boxes or elects to stay down OR is a club that already has a side in that competition. Imainge Blackwood winning Div 1, 2, 3 in the same year. That'd be big enough to play for. AND YES there are enough volunteers around in the HFL that this model could work based on the structure actually being thought about and fixtures being done with all three divs in mind. Every second weekend for eample would be a triple header which would be GREAT for hills footy!