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Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby RustyCage » Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:15 pm

David Brent wrote:
Cash 123 wrote:
Brodlach wrote:No doubt though that Dangerfield is a better player than Ebert


How do you measure that? What has dangerfield done that Ebert hasnt?



Ebert would be a fringe player at the Crows this year IMO would be fighting say Chris Knights for a HF role & with his poor disposal he wouldn't be picked everyweek. Also the reason he couldn't get a full time gig at the Eagles.

Has improved but burns the ball doesn't hurt the opposition like Danger does.


Also doesn't go missing for large parts of games like Dangerfield.
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Re: Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby westcoastpanther » Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:45 pm

pafc1870 wrote:
David Brent wrote:
Cash 123 wrote:
Brodlach wrote:No doubt though that Dangerfield is a better player than Ebert


How do you measure that? What has dangerfield done that Ebert hasnt?



Ebert would be a fringe player at the Crows this year IMO would be fighting say Chris Knights for a HF role & with his poor disposal he wouldn't be picked everyweek. Also the reason he couldn't get a full time gig at the Eagles.

Has improved but burns the ball doesn't hurt the opposition like Danger does.


Also doesn't go missing for large parts of games like Dangerfield.


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Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby the joker » Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:49 pm

Brodlach wrote:
Bum Crack wrote:
scoob wrote:Crows got it right 100% quite possibly drafted one of the all time greats of the game, as opposed to a decent player in Brad Ebert.

I've heard some shit in my time, but that just about takes the cake.



Im a Crows supporter BC and I tend to agree with you. That statement might be a little over the top :lol:

if you speak to Roo he thinks danger will retire as the greatest crow of all time.
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Re: Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby overloaded » Sat Jul 07, 2012 11:38 am

the joker wrote:
Brodlach wrote:
Bum Crack wrote:
scoob wrote:Crows got it right 100% quite possibly drafted one of the all time greats of the game, as opposed to a decent player in Brad Ebert.

I've heard some shit in my time, but that just about takes the cake.



Im a Crows supporter BC and I tend to agree with you. That statement might be a little over the top :lol:

if you speak to Roo he thinks danger will retire as the greatest crow of all time.

how many cans had he had?

Ebert more consistant, and would rather him in finals footy. PD goes MIA too often
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Re: Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby am Bays » Sat Jul 07, 2012 10:43 pm

Think I've just spotted Brad Ebert at the 20 min of the final qtr...
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Re: Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby DOC » Sat Jul 07, 2012 10:46 pm

pafc1870 wrote:
David Brent wrote:
Cash 123 wrote:
Brodlach wrote:No doubt though that Dangerfield is a better player than Ebert


How do you measure that? What has dangerfield done that Ebert hasnt?



Ebert would be a fringe player at the Crows this year IMO would be fighting say Chris Knights for a HF role & with his poor disposal he wouldn't be picked everyweek. Also the reason he couldn't get a full time gig at the Eagles.

Has improved but burns the ball doesn't hurt the opposition like Danger does.


Also doesn't go missing for large parts of games like Dangerfield.



Yep. Yet to get a disposal while resting on the bench.
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Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby the joker » Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:30 pm

overloaded wrote:
the joker wrote:
Brodlach wrote:
Bum Crack wrote:[quote="scoob"]Crows got it right 100% quite possibly drafted one of the all time greats of the game, as opposed to a decent player in Brad Ebert.

I've heard some shit in my time, but that just about takes the cake.



Im a Crows supporter BC and I tend to agree with you. That statement might be a little over the top :lol:

if you speak to Roo he thinks danger will retire as the greatest crow of all time.

how many cans had he had?

Ebert more consistant, and would rather him in finals footy. PD goes MIA too often[/quote]
dangerfield number 11 in disposals in the AFL, and number one in the comp for contested possestions
People who would take ebert first, have no idea about the game of aussie rules football
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Re: Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby kickinit » Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:30 pm

the joker wrote:
Ebert more consistant, and would rather him in finals footy. PD goes MIA too often

dangerfield number 11 in disposals in the AFL, and number one in the comp for contested possestions
People who would take ebert first, have no idea about the game of aussie rules football[/quote]

Are you sure about that? here are some stats from last night see if you can do the math.

Brad Ebert: 20 disposals 11 contested 10 uncontested 11 + 10= 21 not 20
Patrick Dangerfield 22 disposals 12 contested 9 uncontested 12+9=21 not 22

As you can see the AFL stats are not always right and also what they call a contested disposal and a uncontested disposal is ridiculous, Dangerfield got a contested disposal after receiving the ball in between 2 port players that where more then a metre away didn't touch him and he ran away to open space and had a kick.

There both younger footballers and have a long way and a lot to learn about footy. What happen if Dangerfield did an injury next week which caused him to never play football again? would you then say he was the better pick over Ebert?
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Postby the joker » Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:29 am

Stupid comment. Pick a player because one might get injured.
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Re: Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby Footy Smart » Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:00 am

Love Brads work rate, toughness and overall football ability. He isnt a match winner but a very solid contributor and most teams would have him. In saying that he isnt going to get any better than he already is IMO.

Dangerfield has the capacity to still improve dramatically and can be a match winner.

They really are apples and oranges in the way they play and cant be compared. Both will/should have very long and successful careers.... move on people
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Re: Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby Psyber » Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:36 am

Lets face it, this debate is driven by the fact that the Crows chose another player when they could have chosen a Port-bred EBERT!
It is about Port supporters feeling their brand as devalued, or disrespected, by this decision, not about who is the better player.

I'd be happy for the Crows to pick up Brad Ebert sometime as he has potential, but I wouldn't give up Dangerfield, Sloane, or even Mackay for him.
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Re: Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby overloaded » Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:04 am

Mackay :lol: :lol:
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Re: Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby JK » Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:10 pm

Footy Smart wrote:Love Brads work rate, toughness and overall football ability. He isnt a match winner but a very solid contributor and most teams would have him. In saying that he isnt going to get any better than he already is IMO.

Dangerfield has the capacity to still improve dramatically and can be a match winner.

They really are apples and oranges in the way they play and cant be compared. Both will/should have very long and successful careers.... move on people


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Re: Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby Booney » Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:20 pm

Footy Smart wrote:Love Brads work rate, toughness and overall football ability. He isnt a match winner but a very solid contributor and most teams would have him. In saying that he isnt going to get any better than he already is IMO.

Dangerfield has the capacity to still improve dramatically and can be a match winner.

They really are apples and oranges in the way they play and cant be compared. Both will/should have very long and successful careers.... move on people


Are they that different, as far as the game position / style they play? I think they are pretty similar, but most midfielders are alike now anyway, you need more than one asset ( inside player / outside player ) to be a contributor in the modern game.

Both can polish up on the skills, thats for sure. Ebert more so than Dangerfield.
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Re: Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby scoob » Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:29 pm

There is not a player in the league that I would swap for Paddy - He more upside than anyone
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Re: Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:38 pm

scoob wrote:There is not a player in the league that I would swap for Paddy - He more upside than anyone


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Re: Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby Footy Smart » Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:47 pm

Booney wrote:
Footy Smart wrote:Love Brads work rate, toughness and overall football ability. He isnt a match winner but a very solid contributor and most teams would have him. In saying that he isnt going to get any better than he already is IMO.

Dangerfield has the capacity to still improve dramatically and can be a match winner.

They really are apples and oranges in the way they play and cant be compared. Both will/should have very long and successful careers.... move on people


Are they that different, as far as the game position / style they play? I think they are pretty similar, but most midfielders are alike now anyway, you need more than one asset ( inside player / outside player ) to be a contributor in the modern game.

Both can polish up on the skills, thats for sure. Ebert more so than Dangerfield.


Yeah they play the same position but IMO Ebert is a work horse who will accumulate possessions over the 4 qtrs. Dangerfield is an explosive player who will not always get 30+ touches but what touches he does get will have a massive offensive upside for the team.

Skills on both definately need polishing up on. Dangerfield is a 70mtr player, Ebert is a 40-50mtr player. Is one better than the other? No, they play their role within a team structure.
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Re: Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby overloaded » Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:56 pm

Footy Smart wrote:
Booney wrote:
Footy Smart wrote:Love Brads work rate, toughness and overall football ability. He isnt a match winner but a very solid contributor and most teams would have him. In saying that he isnt going to get any better than he already is IMO.

Dangerfield has the capacity to still improve dramatically and can be a match winner.

They really are apples and oranges in the way they play and cant be compared. Both will/should have very long and successful careers.... move on people


Are they that different, as far as the game position / style they play? I think they are pretty similar, but most midfielders are alike now anyway, you need more than one asset ( inside player / outside player ) to be a contributor in the modern game.

Both can polish up on the skills, thats for sure. Ebert more so than Dangerfield.


Yeah they play the same position but IMO Ebert is a work horse who will accumulate possessions over the 4 qtrs. Dangerfield is an explosive player who will not always get 30+ touches but what touches he does get will have a massive offensive upside for the team.

Skills on both definately need polishing up on. Dangerfield is a 70mtr player, Ebert is a 40-50mtr player. Is one better than the other? No, they play their role within a team structure.


So they are equal. End of thread
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Re: Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:59 pm

overloaded wrote:
So they are equal. End of thread


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Re: Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby scoob » Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:59 pm

overloaded wrote:
Footy Smart wrote:
Booney wrote:
Footy Smart wrote:Love Brads work rate, toughness and overall football ability. He isnt a match winner but a very solid contributor and most teams would have him. In saying that he isnt going to get any better than he already is IMO.

Dangerfield has the capacity to still improve dramatically and can be a match winner.

They really are apples and oranges in the way they play and cant be compared. Both will/should have very long and successful careers.... move on people


Are they that different, as far as the game position / style they play? I think they are pretty similar, but most midfielders are alike now anyway, you need more than one asset ( inside player / outside player ) to be a contributor in the modern game.

Both can polish up on the skills, thats for sure. Ebert more so than Dangerfield.


Yeah they play the same position but IMO Ebert is a work horse who will accumulate possessions over the 4 qtrs. Dangerfield is an explosive player who will not always get 30+ touches but what touches he does get will have a massive offensive upside for the team.

Skills on both definately need polishing up on. Dangerfield is a 70mtr player, Ebert is a 40-50mtr player. Is one better than the other? No, they play their role within a team structure.


So they are equal. End of thread


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