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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby JK » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:32 pm

SJABC wrote:
JK wrote:All of this is easily achievable in terms of cost, if and when the AFL decides to stop "growing the game" I would think.


They'll just redirect funds from the state leagues and junior footy etc to fund it anyhow.


Would that be enough to cover it? I would have thought the funds going to those leagues is glorified outsourcing, meaning it must be saving them a buck than if they had to foot the bill for a feeder league themselves.
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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby Dirko » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:36 pm

JK wrote:Would that be enough to cover it? I would have thought the funds going to those leagues is glorified outsourcing, meaning it must be saving them a buck than if they had to foot the bill for a feeder league themselves.


True to a point, but if they decide to have a AFL reserves and incorporate the elite 18's & 16's amongst it, then why would the AFL worry about the state leagues?

The state leagues would then become nothing more then that, and they wouldn't be the current breeding ground for AFL clubs to recruit from as they are now.
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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby Wedgie » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:22 am

Bit hard to compare costs to the NRL and A League.
NRL are only on the East Coast plus NZ and the A League is a money bin kept purely alive by tax payers funds, theyve received millions more in the last 10 years than the NSL did in 25 years and even then teams are falling over every year. Both sports require a hell of a lot less players and support staff too.
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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby JamesH » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:06 am

I would actually prefer it if the state leagues have little involvement with the AFL.... more settled line ups.... good juniors could join the U23 set for a transfer fee then return if not drafted.

Remember the AFL if basically Melbourne based with two teams in Adelaide so an U23 league isnt that cazy an idea. In Melbourne the U23 teams could even form affiliations with VFL clubs to be curtain raisers in SA and WA obviously.

It is very important we do not let the AFL club compromise our state league.... look at the joke the VFL is.... and remember Sydney won the ACT league three years undefeated in a row.
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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby Dutchy » Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:16 pm

Wedgie wrote:Bit hard to compare costs to the NRL and A League.
NRL are only on the East Coast plus NZ and the A League is a money bin kept purely alive by tax payers funds, theyve received millions more in the last 10 years than the NSL did in 25 years and even then teams are falling over every year. Both sports require a hell of a lot less players and support staff too.


Still some fair travelling to be done to NZ & North Qld. And if they can finance it Im sure the AFL could. Plus it would be a southern states league anyway with the NEAFL continuing.

Agree there would be more player costs, but Im sure sponsorship could be found for this, or maybe think differently and have 15/16 player teams, they are going to be short on numbers anyway, so less travelling costs and less top up players.
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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby JamesH » Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:33 pm

Fopxtel will probably want to telecast games as they do with NRL Toyota Cup which would provide funds..... and probably pring and end to that stupid 'who cares foxtel cup'
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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby Tiger Couple » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:42 pm

Even Cricket runs a smaller 2nd Xl Comp that covers the 6 states and NT plus they have a week long 2Xl Twenty20 Tournament. I know Money comes from different places but I'm sure if other sports can do it then the AFL can as well.

Can the Foxtel Cup and make them the Naming Rights Sponsor, Coles is all over the Umpires and Balls so they must be contributing in the Foxtel Cup so offer the same for the Reserves Comp.

Surely from a AFL perspective if they had all the Rookie Umpires umpiring a Competition with the same rules when they step up to AFL it should make the transition easier.

I'm sure the sides are happy to pay out the extra money to control there players, it would just be a matter of the AFL organising it and putting a little bit of money into Flights, Accomodation, Umpires. Surely the Admin staff at AFL House could take on a little extra work or employ one extra to cover the workload. I don't see why this couldn't be put in place.

Potentially all games could be Curtain Raisers with the exception of some game in Melbourne to reduce the toll on MCG and Ethiad and maybe you wouldn't fly the Reserves to Tassie and Darwin for games.
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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby heater31 » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:02 pm

I find it rather bemusing that the AFL want to dominate everything involved with the game yet they won't touch the Reserve teams issue with a barge pole :?
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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby JamesH » Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:04 pm

heater31 wrote:I find it rather bemusing that the AFL want to dominate everything involved with the game yet they won't touch the Reserve teams issue with a barge pole :?


good point..... the AFL even went to the extent of forcing the IAFC out of business so it could be the world body for the game (it killed ANFC in 1994).... so why not sort the reserves issue.

The Victorian clubs pay to compete in the VFL so the money could go to a national U23/20 league instead. If it kills the TAC Cup or U18 championship then so be it: the TAC Cup only helps Victorian players and the U18 championship is a poor indicator of talent.

As an Eagles supporter I actually hate seeing players come in and out constantly at the behest of the AFL teams. So its mutually beneficial.
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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby holden78 » Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:11 pm

Vlad D, short arms and deep pockets. When AFL knobs were doing TV deal, could have easily budgeted for Crows/Port into VFL, but they love the SANFL taking care of this issue all by themselves. Funny how dispite Rucci's ranting and Crows/Port whingeing, both seem to be going ok :roll: Stop pissing down our legs and trying to tell us SANFL lovers it's raining :twisted:
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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby JamesH » Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:33 pm

holden78 wrote:Vlad D, short arms and deep pockets. When AFL knobs were doing TV deal, could have easily budgeted for Crows/Port into VFL, but they love the SANFL taking care of this issue all by themselves. Funny how dispite Rucci's ranting and Crows/Port whingeing, both seem to be going ok :roll: Stop pissing down our legs and trying to tell us SANFL lovers it's raining :twisted:


I actually couldnt give a monkeys about the fruit tingles or that other insolvent club. I would love it if their players went elsewhere and left us to enjoy our footy.

As an Eagles supporter Chris Knights is in one week then promoted the next..... but we dont get a guy like Redden who obviously needs time in the 'B's because Port are so poor - so its best we have none of them.
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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby Booney » Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:46 pm

JamesH wrote:
holden78 wrote:Vlad D, short arms and deep pockets. When AFL knobs were doing TV deal, could have easily budgeted for Crows/Port into VFL, but they love the SANFL taking care of this issue all by themselves. Funny how dispite Rucci's ranting and Crows/Port whingeing, both seem to be going ok :roll: Stop pissing down our legs and trying to tell us SANFL lovers it's raining :twisted:


I actually couldnt give a monkeys about the fruit tingles or that other insolvent club. I would love it if their players went elsewhere and left us to enjoy our footy.

As an Eagles supporter Chris Knights is in one week then promoted the next.....
but we dont get a guy like Redden who obviously needs time in the 'B's because Port are so poor - so its best we have none of them.


So, we dont drop Redden because we have no money? :shock:

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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby JamesH » Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:52 pm

Booney wrote:
JamesH wrote:
holden78 wrote:Vlad D, short arms and deep pockets. When AFL knobs were doing TV deal, could have easily budgeted for Crows/Port into VFL, but they love the SANFL taking care of this issue all by themselves. Funny how dispite Rucci's ranting and Crows/Port whingeing, both seem to be going ok :roll: Stop pissing down our legs and trying to tell us SANFL lovers it's raining :twisted:


I actually couldnt give a monkeys about the fruit tingles or that other insolvent club. I would love it if their players went elsewhere and left us to enjoy our footy.

As an Eagles supporter Chris Knights is in one week then promoted the next.....
but we dont get a guy like Redden who obviously needs time in the 'B's because Port are so poor - so its best we have none of them.


So, we dont drop Redden because we have no money? :shock:

I wait with anticipation.


poor in quality not money: Its a mixed bag on the type of player that drops back. How unfair is it on an SANFL guy who works 5 days a week then trains only to line up on Bernie Vince or Chris Knights who are by no means 'emerging' players.
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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby UK Fan » Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:05 am

Port could have a reserves team play in the vfl. When they relocate to tassie.

So to clarify the sanfl stipulated port needed to seperate it's sanfl and afl Operations.

But the decision to kick port magpies out of its 100 year home at alberton. Was 100% the powers.
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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby Psyber » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:30 am

JamesH wrote: ... As an Eagles supporter Chris Knights is in one week then promoted the next..... but we dont get a guy like Redden who obviously needs time in the 'B's because Port are so poor - so its best we have none of them.
Have I missed something?
I thought the weekend just gone was Knights' first game with the Crows all year.. :?
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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby beenreal » Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:46 pm

UK Fan wrote:Port could have a reserves team play in the vfl. When they relocate to tassie.

So to clarify the sanfl stipulated port needed to seperate it's sanfl and afl Operations.

But the decision to kick port magpies out of its 100 year home at alberton. Was 100% the powers.


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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby whufc » Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:58 pm

beenreal wrote:
UK Fan wrote:Port could have a reserves team play in the vfl. When they relocate to tassie.

So to clarify the sanfl stipulated port needed to seperate it's sanfl and afl Operations.

But the decision to kick port magpies out of its 100 year home at alberton. Was 100% the powers.


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Whose choice was it then?
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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby UK Fan » Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:46 pm

I don't think anyone who started a thread titled "Port Adelaide reunification exceed expectations" should be labelling anyone as a liar. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby beenreal » Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:58 pm

whufc wrote:
beenreal wrote:
UK Fan wrote:Port could have a reserves team play in the vfl. When they relocate to tassie.

So to clarify the sanfl stipulated port needed to seperate it's sanfl and afl Operations.

But the decision to kick port magpies out of its 100 year home at alberton. Was 100% the powers.


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Whose choice was it then?


This topic has been done to death. It is well known and accepted that it was the SANFL clubs that forced the move to Ethelton because they were afraid of the Magpies benefiting from any Power association and thus dominating the competition.

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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby whufc » Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:03 pm

Thats wouldnt be a port supporter blaming the SANFL again would it.

At no point did Port sign for this then?
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