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Re: North Adelaide v Norwood Post Game Discussion

Postby topsywaldron » Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:06 am

Scrapboy wrote:Nothing like sweeping generalizations made from a few idiots at a game and a couple of keyboard warriors.


Some of whom don't even support Norwood but their posts are being paraded as examples of Norwood's poor sportsmanship. Go figure that one out.

Reckon most Legs people here have been pretty sanguine about the loss, it was always going to happen and it's better happening now than during the finals.
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Re: North Adelaide v Norwood Post Game Discussion

Postby maccad » Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:23 am

most of the people on here complaining about norwood whinging about the umpiring after a close loss have been on here themselves complaining about the sames situation. The umpiring was crap but we lost because we missed easy shots for goal. We were crap today and i think we would have been the lucky ones to have won this game. North were only one point better than us today. A few weeks ago centrals were the lucky one to win there.
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Re: North Adelaide v Norwood Post Game Discussion

Postby Ian » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:23 am

maccad wrote: North were only one point better than us today. A few weeks ago centrals were the lucky one to win there.


That's the difference, you say North were only one point better than Norwood, Bassett says Norwood were better than North, I think you have a much better grip on reality than Norwood's coach.
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Re: North Adelaide v Norwood Post Game Discussion

Postby Big Phil » Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:29 am

There's a fair bit of covergae on Bassett's comments post game in this week's Monday Morning Centreman article by Jai Bednall:

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Re: North Adelaide v Norwood Post Game Discussion

Postby Jim05 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:02 pm

Ian wrote:
maccad wrote: North were only one point better than us today. A few weeks ago centrals were the lucky one to win there.


That's the difference, you say North were only one point better than Norwood, Bassett says Norwood were better than North, I think you have a much better grip on reality than Norwood's coach.

Maybe its the footy culture we are used to. As a long time soccer fan these kind of comments are made everyday, at the Euro's the other night the Dutch lost to Denmark 1-0 yet the Dutch coach came out and said his team had played the Danes off the park but couldnt score and that the best team team didnt win, he then went on to say Denmark got lucky. No one in the soccer world batted an eyelid at this and infact most media agreed with him. Maybe its just a cultural thing, i dont know but it is definately unusual to hear it at SANFL
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Re: North Adelaide v Norwood Post Game Discussion

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:22 pm

Alot more dummy spitting, rolling around like the player has been shot when involved in a slight collision, cheating, bribes in soccer. If aussie rules goes down that path, I will switch off.
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Re: North Adelaide v Norwood Post Game Discussion

Postby Booney » Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:33 pm

Yeah, righto Jim, you sayin' people watched a game of soccer and there were winners? Pffft, no winners there in my book. ;)
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Re: North Adelaide v Norwood Post Game Discussion

Postby on the rails » Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:35 pm

Jim05 wrote:
Ian wrote:
maccad wrote: North were only one point better than us today. A few weeks ago centrals were the lucky one to win there.


That's the difference, you say North were only one point better than Norwood, Bassett says Norwood were better than North, I think you have a much better grip on reality than Norwood's coach.

Maybe its the footy culture we are used to. As a long time soccer fan these kind of comments are made everyday, at the Euro's the other night the Dutch lost to Denmark 1-0 yet the Dutch coach came out and said his team had played the Danes off the park but couldnt score and that the best team team didnt win, he then went on to say Denmark got lucky. No one in the soccer world batted an eyelid at this and infact most media agreed with him. Maybe its just a cultural thing, i dont know but it is definately unusual to hear it at SANFL


Hardly compare Soccer to Aussie Rules. Soccer is a game where a team can win by 1-0 and could be lucky on the day. If North had kicked only 1 goal and Nwd nil over 120 minutes then maybe Bassett could mount a case for what he said?
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Re: North Adelaide v Norwood Post Game Discussion

Postby Jim05 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:26 pm

on the rails wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
Ian wrote:
maccad wrote: North were only one point better than us today. A few weeks ago centrals were the lucky one to win there.


That's the difference, you say North were only one point better than Norwood, Bassett says Norwood were better than North, I think you have a much better grip on reality than Norwood's coach.

Maybe its the footy culture we are used to. As a long time soccer fan these kind of comments are made everyday, at the Euro's the other night the Dutch lost to Denmark 1-0 yet the Dutch coach came out and said his team had played the Danes off the park but couldnt score and that the best team team didnt win, he then went on to say Denmark got lucky. No one in the soccer world batted an eyelid at this and infact most media agreed with him. Maybe its just a cultural thing, i dont know but it is definately unusual to hear it at SANFL


Hardly compare Soccer to Aussie Rules. Soccer is a game where a team can win by 1-0 and could be lucky on the day. If North had kicked only 1 goal and Nwd nil over 120 minutes then maybe Bassett could mount a case for what he said?

Yeah, Bass still believes that because we had more scoring shots we were unlucky I suppose. Dont agree with him but he is entitled to his opinion as we all are
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Re: North Adelaide v Norwood Post Game Discussion

Postby Squawk » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:33 pm

Having read the full transcript of Bassett's interview, there's really only two sentences that could be regarded as controversial

''But I thought we played better footy than the other team. ''
`They were lucky, that's all. They were lucky today.'


The first sentence on its own, I think everyone can relate to at times. The second sentence, probably reflects how people feel even if it is often left unsaid.

It seems the North supporters (and coach) have been the most disappointed. Perhaps this is the interview they had hoped to read.

Scott Walsh: How do you feel after the first loss of the season?
Nathan Bassett: ``I don't feel too bad. I felt like we played OK. We were a little bit predictable in the first half with our ball movement. Just too safe and we kicked to Greg Gallman too often. Maybe some lack of discipline for want of a better term. We gave away 34 free kicks, that's a lot of free kicks. I think that's the most I've ever seen in a game. And a lot of those were around goals and late, so I think they're the main reasons we lost.''

SW: Did you think you were exposed down back by their three tall forwards?

NB: ``Three tall forwards will challenge any side’s defence. But for the ball to get there, it means it has gone through your midfield and the defensive efforts of your forwards, or you have lost the centre break. Our skills let us down because of the opposition’s pressure and the whole competition should take note of North’s improvement in this area. They challenged Central, they overcame Glenelg’s challenges, and today they beat us. Right now, North Adelaide is the real deal.”

SW: Any thought you could have made some positional changes there?

``As I said, conceding goals is often because of a team breakdown, not necessarily individual breakdowns. I didn’t think our defenders were too bad overall.''

Messenger reporter Tristan Taormina: Was workrate an issue at all? Any complacency there?

NB: ``No, it wasn't an issue. What was an issue was when we had the ball, our skills let us down and that was largely due to the pressure being applied by the opposition.''

SW: From the sidelines it seemed a bit to do with want and desire. You got them in the clearances quite
considerably but around the ground they seemed to keep working harder to try and get the ball back?


NB: ``They were up and about today, there’s no doubt about that. Perhaps our club did not pay them enough respect and after their last three games now, they deserve the respect of the competition as a whole and they have my respect. It’s a real credit to Josh Francou and his coaches and players.''

SW: Is it anyway a relief that the undefeated streak is over?

NB: ``If you're going to lose, losing narrowly doesn't worry me too much. I feel like we should and could have played a lot better. Newton kicked 2.4, we had some scoring opportunities. (Dean Terlich) kicked it to the opposition on a consistent basis... We were down to sometimes no rotations in the last quarter. We lost (James Gallagher) six minutes into the game with a knee. We lose (Matt) Fuller in the third quarter. We lose (Simon) Phillips in the last quarter for a period of time. That makes it hard. I know they were one down as well... being undefeated can falsely elevate a club’s own self-assessment and today we got a wake up call. In the long run of a season, a wake up call isn’t such a bad thing, but full credit to North today because at the end of the day, they got the two points and gave us a lesson in pressure football.”
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Re: North Adelaide v Norwood Post Game Discussion

Postby on the rails » Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:10 pm

Squawk - new job as PR / Media Manager for Nwd perhaps? :lol:

You could have cleaned / diluted his mess before it hit the press!
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Re: North Adelaide v Norwood Post Game Discussion

Postby Coach Bombay » Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:53 pm

Bassetts comments seemed aight to me. Nothing wrong with being arrogant to the media, mix it up a little. Best team on the day doesnt always win
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Re: North Adelaide v Norwood Post Game Discussion

Postby robranisgod » Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:56 pm

bays09 wrote:Bassetts comments seemed aight to me. Nothing wrong with being arrogant to the media, mix it up a little. Best team on the day doesnt always win


But when a team leads for 97% of the game, it isn't usually lucky to win. I think that is the point that has annoyed most fair thinking people. North have held sway for all bar 4 minutes of the game and yet Bassett said that 9 times out of 10 given the way the game was played Norwood would have won it.
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Re: North Adelaide v Norwood Post Game Discussion

Postby Coach Bombay » Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:50 pm

Fair call. Haven't watched the match. Enjoy the win, might end up top 3 the way your going!
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Re: North Adelaide v Norwood Post Game Discussion

Postby Gozu » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:50 am

I watched a bit of the first half and North looked the better team to me, looked hungrier.
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Re: North Adelaide v Norwood Post Game Discussion

Postby Psyber » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:47 am

Gozu wrote:I watched a bit of the first half and North looked the better team to me, looked hungrier.
I agree from what I have saw on TV.
Norwood have seemed a bit lazy/overconfident for the last three matches.
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Re: North Adelaide v Norwood Post Game Discussion

Postby redwhiteandblueblooded » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:51 am

Psyber wrote:
Gozu wrote:I watched a bit of the first half and North looked the better team to me, looked hungrier.
I agree from what I have saw on TV.
Norwood have seemed a bit lazy/overconfident for the last three matches.

Agree with both these gentlemen. Looked on tv that Norwood thought they just needed to turn up, run around for 120 minutes and go home with the points. North looked more intense and switched on, and deserved the win.
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Re: North Adelaide v Norwood Post Game Discussion

Postby JK » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:51 am

Psyber wrote:
Gozu wrote:I watched a bit of the first half and North looked the better team to me, looked hungrier.
I agree from what I have saw on TV.
Norwood have seemed a bit lazy/overconfident for the last three matches.


I don't think any team can "maintain the rage" for every round .. Certainly I thought North had greater intensity/desire than us, and when they had their moments of controlling the play they executed much cleaner than we did.
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Re: North Adelaide v Norwood Post Game Discussion

Postby Trent Plucktrum » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:01 am

JK wrote:
Psyber wrote:
Gozu wrote:I watched a bit of the first half and North looked the better team to me, looked hungrier.
I agree from what I have saw on TV.
Norwood have seemed a bit lazy/overconfident for the last three matches.


I don't think any team can "maintain the rage" for every round .. Certainly I thought North had greater intensity/desire than us, and when they had their moments of controlling the play they executed much cleaner than we did.


At last someone actually looked at the game overall and not focused on one or two incidents during the day, sometimes i wonder how many of the most outspoken people on this forum attend the games live !!
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Re: North Adelaide v Norwood Post Game Discussion

Postby Wedgie » Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:21 pm

Norwood were very lucky that they had 2 days extra to prepare for the game.
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