Injuries this round

[HH3]

true but there is still a duty of care for the place in question to control the controllables to the best of their ability. Where i work we are owned by the Playford Council and have these type issues on a daily basis, you will find if anyone got a decent lawyer they would be able to comfortably hold the football club partially responsible.

Even at lowest case the football club would have to cover there own legal costs which wouldnt be a small fee.

eg, if we have a loose paver in our front entry, we send an email to the council regarding fixing it its there responsibility all good, we then cant just leave that paver lose sitting there it is our responsibility to make sure NO ONE can walk over the paver and have an accident.

Just like a car crash you are 'partially' responsible for just being there even if its not your fault.

The player had a "duty of care" not to run into a wall too.

[Boosh]

you cant make alterations to where you mark the boundary, you cant put temporary padding like you do to the goal posts.

Padding on an entire building and verandah, thats a lot of padding

[Footy Chick]

you cant make alterations to where you mark the boundary, you cant put temporary padding like you do to the goal posts.

Padding on an entire building and verandah, thats a lot of padding

BUBBLE WRAP!

North Haven would then become my favourite place ever I reckon

[HH3]

you cant make alterations to where you mark the boundary, you cant put temporary padding like you do to the goal posts.

Padding on an entire building and verandah, thats a lot of padding

BUBBLE WRAP!

North Haven would then become my favourite place ever I reckon

I could get that much bubble wrap. Thinking of the commision I would get, I think thats the way to go Boosh...ill hook you up on prices on Tuesday

[The Ash Man]

you cant make alterations to where you mark the boundary, you cant put temporary padding like you do to the goal posts.

Padding on an entire building and verandah, thats a lot of padding

BUBBLE WRAP!

North Haven would then become my favourite place ever I reckon

I could get that much bubble wrap. Thinking of the commision I would get, I think thats the way to go Boosh...ill hook you up on prices on Tuesday

At least there was one easy solution brought up in the 10 posts

[beef]

Without a doubt the biggest injury of not only this round but probably the year is the hamstring to the great man Pag . I wasnt there to see it as i was at the C grade but apparently it was due to his Usain Bolt like pace and the body just couldnt handle it. Hopefully just a week as we are very slow without his dashing run off half back.

[Boosh]

Back onto the topic FC started, how did the guy who popped his shoulder end up? Didn't look that great

[Footy Chick]

Back onto the topic FC started, how did the guy who popped his shoulder end up? Didn't look that great

Good question, I think they got it back in (eventually) and has to go back for more x-rays today to check for any other damage. He went to QEH and he still hadn't been seen at 3/4 time, they'd only just given him pain killers

and because my car is in the crash repairers at the minute, I couldn't get back to the club to find out

[Boosh]

Back onto the topic FC started, how did the guy who popped his shoulder end up? Didn't look that great

Good question, I think they got it back in (eventually) and has to go back for more x-rays today to check for any other damage. He went to QEH and he still hadn't been seen at 3/4 time, they'd only just given him pain killers

and because my car is in the crash repairers at the minute, I couldn't get back to the club to find out

QEH is terrible on Saturdays, hope he is alright. Costly day for both sides.

[whufc]

As a topic that really interests me due to my line of work i was having a chat with a gentleman who comes into my work, his a QC and without naming the clubs or anything i asked where i thought this could all go.

He reckons with a real decent lawyer you would be able to get money or place responsibility on

-The council (they would take the majority of the responsibility anywhere up to 90%) (there ground they should have had it fixed)
-The football club (did they do all within there powers to create a safe playing field, wasnt their responsibilty to fix but still played games knowing off the dangers)
-The officials who signed off on the safety of the ground (who is he to be making a ground safety assesment, what quals etc etc)
-The football league (if official has no quals or experience, how can they make an official assesment on a grounds safety etc etc

He was extremly confident he would be able to make all them parties have to defend themselves in court.

The question he asked which i couldnt answer is the ground marshalls who sign off on the ground. What qualifications and profesional experience do they have to be making player safety evaluations on behalf of 21 footballers?

[heater31]

The question he asked which i couldnt answer is the ground marshalls who sign off on the ground. What qualifications and profesional experience do they have to be making player safety evaluations on behalf of 21 footballers?

Usually its the team managers that sort this paperwork before play commences.

[Executive Member]

As a topic that really interests me due to my line of work i was having a chat with a gentleman who comes into my work, his a QC and without naming the clubs or anything i asked where i thought this could all go.

He reckons with a real decent lawyer you would be able to get money or place responsibility on

-The council (they would take the majority of the responsibility anywhere up to 90%) (there ground they should have had it fixed)
-The football club (did they do all within there powers to create a safe playing field, wasnt their responsibilty to fix but still played games knowing off the dangers)
-The officials who signed off on the safety of the ground (who is he to be making a ground safety assesment, what quals etc etc)
-The football league (if official has no quals or experience, how can they make an official assesment on a grounds safety etc etc

He was extremly confident he would be able to make all them parties have to defend themselves in court.

The question he asked which i couldnt answer is the ground marshalls who sign off on the ground. What qualifications and profesional experience do they have to be making player safety evaluations on behalf of 21 footballers?

The good thing about QC's and their ilk is that if you have 10 of them in a room you will get 20 different answers

I can say that the League, the Clubs and all officials are covered through the national AFL insurance scheme - this waspartly put in place to protect all volunteers from such actions

[whufc]

As a topic that really interests me due to my line of work i was having a chat with a gentleman who comes into my work, his a QC and without naming the clubs or anything i asked where i thought this could all go.

He reckons with a real decent lawyer you would be able to get money or place responsibility on

-The council (they would take the majority of the responsibility anywhere up to 90%) (there ground they should have had it fixed)
-The football club (did they do all within there powers to create a safe playing field, wasnt their responsibilty to fix but still played games knowing off the dangers)
-The officials who signed off on the safety of the ground (who is he to be making a ground safety assesment, what quals etc etc)
-The football league (if official has no quals or experience, how can they make an official assesment on a grounds safety etc etc

He was extremly confident he would be able to make all them parties have to defend themselves in court.

The question he asked which i couldnt answer is the ground marshalls who sign off on the ground. What qualifications and profesional experience do they have to be making player safety evaluations on behalf of 21 footballers?

The good thing about QC's and their ilk is that if you have 10 of them in a room you will get 20 different answers

I can say that the League, the Clubs and all officials are covered through the national AFL insurance scheme - this waspartly put in place to protect all volunteers from such actions

Awesome like i said there were questions i couldnt answer the QC on, its just a topic that i have some interest in and dabble a tad in at work but not on an amatuer basis. As i said he thought he could at very least make those parties have to defend themselves in court not necessarily win or get money etc etc out of them.

I dont agree with the way anything and any action can be sued/taken to court, i have never been to court in my life but unfortunatly in modern day society there are people who will try and sue for a paper cut!

[HH3]

Last night at training I took notice of how far the boundry line is from the concrete. Its about 4m, then about 2.5m of concrete before the window. The SAAFL rules only say there has to be 3m between the boundry line and the fence/line for spectators to stand behind. So technically the conditions are within the guidelines stipulated by the SAAFL.

Also, In 7 seasons of senior footy at NH, Ive never seen anyone go that far past the boundry line. It was just an uncommon accident. And I dont think its good for third parties to be putting the idea of lawsuits (even if you dont agree with going down that path) into peoples heads. You give the wrong type of person that idea, and it could mean massive troubles to a club that has really done nothing wrong.

[whufc]

it obviously was an uncommon accident but thats what causes these issues is there uncommon. all i was pointing out was that one person mentioned they have emailed council so they have zero liabilty. thats not true if someone lawyers up well. even if your not going to do it get some quotes of fencing. make it appear the club is doing everything it can to get it fixed. ring the council once every day keep a record.

where i work we have a slide if i do safety check and notice there is a safety issue i ring council to come fix it. i then cant just go and run it knowing of an issue before the council has fixed it. if i did and something happened i would be done.

[Jetters]

You could always just move the boundary in a bit......

[Jetters]

As a topic that really interests me due to my line of work i was having a chat with a gentleman who comes into my work, his a QC and without naming the clubs or anything i asked where i thought this could all go.

He reckons with a real decent lawyer you would be able to get money or place responsibility on

-The council (they would take the majority of the responsibility anywhere up to 90%) (there ground they should have had it fixed)
-The football club (did they do all within there powers to create a safe playing field, wasnt their responsibilty to fix but still played games knowing off the dangers)
-The officials who signed off on the safety of the ground (who is he to be making a ground safety assesment, what quals etc etc)
-The football league (if official has no quals or experience, how can they make an official assesment on a grounds safety etc etc

He was extremly confident he would be able to make all them parties have to defend themselves in court.

The question he asked which i couldnt answer is the ground marshalls who sign off on the ground. What qualifications and profesional experience do they have to be making player safety evaluations on behalf of 21 footballers?

Who marks the boundary?? They appear responsible for ensuring the standards meet those set by the SAAFL, which I assume meet those set out under their insurance, which you would imagine meet those set by Australian sporting regulations. Maybe these regulations are inadequate?

If they fail to meet standards then the marker of the boundary may have breached their duty to create a safe environment.

Unless the council does the boundary, I can't see the council oweing a duty, because surely they can't be blamed for the boundary being too close to the clubrooms.... common sense....which is more reasonable to change, a building or a boundary line?

Also, I'm sure insurance requires a number of safety checks to be done pre-game and a checklist to be signed off on and from there they would have excluded themselves from liability. Then the question might be, who approved the safety of the oval and signed off on the insurance safety checklist?

Just some issues to think about

[Jetters]

-The football league (if official has no quals or experience, how can they make an official assesment on a grounds safety etc etc

The question he asked which i couldnt answer is the ground marshalls who sign off on the ground. What qualifications and profesional experience do they have to be making player safety evaluations on behalf of 21 footballers?[/quote]

This path is surely not in the interests of football clubs. Do we want more rules and regulations placed on volunteers, they are hard enough to find as it is.

[whufc]

-The football league (if official has no quals or experience, how can they make an official assesment on a grounds safety etc etc

The question he asked which i couldnt answer is the ground marshalls who sign off on the ground. What qualifications and profesional experience do they have to be making player safety evaluations on behalf of 21 footballers?

This path is surely not in the interests of football clubs. Do we want more rules and regulations placed on volunteers, they are hard enough to find as it is.[/quote]

No one wants more rules or regs but do you think if someone does a serious injury or for example if that bloke had slipped on the concrete hit his head and died (far fetched yes unrealistic no) do you no think a decent lawyer will look and try and point the finger at the club marschall who works as a waiter with no expertise in player safety signing off on the safety of 40odd footballers.

All im saying is dont leave yourself 1% at risk. Thats all it will take for your club to be forced to go to court and from that point your club may go broke just trying to defend themselves.

[Dols]

U guys need to leave the topic alone. The boundary line is fine where it is. One idiot sniping got injured through his own stupidity. The bloke that he tried to hit late and bounced off of was going back to belt him till he saw what he had done to himself. One persons stupidity doesn't deserve any more recognition.