The South Australian Political Landscape

[Jimmy_041]

It doesn't Jimmy's just going into damage control.

LMAO you are kidding aren't you?
Unlike R&B, I have no doubts that what I write on here means absolutely SFA - spin and damage control FFS - you crack me up.

Whilst we sink into the mire, these are the important things we should be fixing.
Mind you, you guys dont have a lot else to hang your hat on, do you?

[Gozu]

It doesn't Jimmy's just going into damage control.

LMAO you are kidding aren't you?
Unlike R&B, I have no doubts that what I write on here means absolutely SFA - spin and damage control FFS - you crack me up.

Whilst we sink into the mire, these are the important things we should be fixing.
Mind you, you guys dont have a lot else to hang your hat on, do you?

Anyone can look back at all the posts you've made on this subject since I posted it last night. I dare say you've made more posts in here today than you normally would in a week. I doubt R&B thought he was influencing anyone either but you're both party hacks.

Redmond's comments were appalling especially for a female in her position, most can understand why.

[Q.]

My feminazi friends are appalled.

[Dogwatcher]

Says the woman who only got the job because of her faction

Not saying I agree with her. But how does that deflate her argument any less?[/quote]

Jimmy, I might clarify my question.
You've made this comment about the faction giving her her job, as if it makes her commentary of less significance in this whole debate. How do you think it does so?

[Jimmy_041]

Did she earn that job by her own qualifications and experience?

[Jimmy_041]

It doesn't Jimmy's just going into damage control.

LMAO you are kidding aren't you?
Unlike R&B, I have no doubts that what I write on here means absolutely SFA - spin and damage control FFS - you crack me up.

Whilst we sink into the mire, these are the important things we should be fixing.
Mind you, you guys dont have a lot else to hang your hat on, do you?

Anyone can look back at all the posts you've made on this subject since I posted it last night. I dare say you've made more posts in here today than you normally would in a week. I doubt R&B thought he was influencing anyone either but you're both party hacks.

Redmond's comments were appalling especially for a female in her position, most can understand why.

Just in discussion Gozu - I saw it in Indaily, and read it, before you posted it and thought - well, she's answered it as her own person and not the "taken the pledge" answer.
Party hack??? Wish I was - I could fix a few of their complete f*** ups up.

[southee]

Love how the labor "heavies" on this forum completely jumped on this one!!

Like "rock spiders" waiting under rocks for a long time ... Patiently waiting to attack on something that comes by!!

If this is the only thing they can come up with then they are in deep trouble ... Forget the policies lets focus on this subject!!

[GWW]

Policies? The Libs have policies??

[Jimmy_041]

My feminazi friends are appalled.

You infer what I was thinking, but wouldn't say....

[Dogwatcher]

Did she earn that job by her own qualifications and experience?

Ahhh...but, you would think that she stared down many years of union jobs for the boys and prejudice against women to be in the position in which to attain that 'freebie'...wouldn't you? The unions have taken just as long as many other parts of society to be enlightened by the equality of the genders, I would think.

Interesting to note Weatherill has chosen not to attack Redmond on this one.

[gossipgirl]

Policies? The Libs have policies??

yes they have 1 if you are a woman and are being harassed at work then you should just smile, flutter your eyelids and just ignore it..... great policy so thats how you change the work environment.

[smac]

I think many are confusing harassment and discrimination. She spoke about the latter.

"push through" is good advice in many situations and it seems she believes this is one of them.

I'm sure if asked about sexual harassment she'd have strong views hat match some comments in here.

[story of my life]

I think many are confusing harassment and discrimination. She spoke about the latter.

"push through" is good advice in many situations and it seems she believes this is one of them.

I'm sure if asked about sexual harassment she'd have strong views hat match some comments in here.

I certainly did

[Psyber]

thanks for the info, if she wins then next election which seems fairly certain.

I don't think it is fairly certain that she will win. The Libs continue to make up little ground in SA and offer very little alternative to what was a stale but now less experienced, less arrogant government.
I don't even think her leadership at the next election is fairly certain.

You are quoting the line the state ALP is running as their last forlorn hope.
They are hoping to get it enough traction by constantly repeating it, and getting others to believe and quote it.

The Libs learned from last time not to announce policies far enough ahead for the ALP to steal them and run up parallel policies.
This time they will keep a low profile until the campaign is well under way, then announce policy.
There is no leadership instability - just the ALP trying to create that impression and distract from their own recent woes in that area.

[story of my life]

thanks for the info, if she wins then next election which seems fairly certain.

I don't think it is fairly certain that she will win. The Libs continue to make up little ground in SA and offer very little alternative to what was a stale but now less experienced, less arrogant government.
I don't even think her leadership at the next election is fairly certain.

You are quoting the line the state ALP is running as their last forlorn hope.
They are hoping to get it enough traction by constantly repeating it, and getting others to believe and quote it.

The Libs learned from last time not to announce policies far enough ahead for the ALP to steal them and run up parallel policies.
This time they will keep a low profile until the campaign is well under way, then announce policy.
There is no leadership instability - just the ALP trying to create that impression and distract from their own recent woes in that area.

They have been rock solid behind their leader ever since the Steele Hall days

[Psyber]

They have been rock solid behind their leader ever since the Steele Hall days

Steele Hall is ancient history old boy - as is John Olson. All parties go through phases like that.
Isobel Redmond was elected leader because she is not part of any of the previous internal loyalty groups from the MHS era and could be accepted by both sides.

The ALP is the party with the most recent instability record, and it took the power brokers a while to muster the internal support for Jay W despite his having been the most popular prospect with potential ALP voters for a long time. (I was sitting at lunch with one of the ALP power brokers when the phone calls were going on just before Rann got the push.)

[Dogwatcher]

[quote="Psyber] You are quoting the line the state ALP is running as their last forlorn hope.
They are hoping to get it enough traction by constantly repeating it, and getting others to believe and quote it.

The Libs learned from last time not to announce policies far enough ahead for the ALP to steal them and run up parallel policies.
This time they will keep a low profile until the campaign is well under way, then announce policy.
There is no leadership instability - just the ALP trying to create that impression and distract from their own recent woes in that area.[/quote]

I don't agree with you there, Psyber. There is truth to the question marks over the leadership. The MHS question will not go away. Recent movement among Isobel's staff will have many questioning whether she is up to it. A year and a half ago, I was of the clear belief that the Libs would run through Labor at the next election. Now I'm not so sure.
Recent independent commentary is of the same opinion. Labor in SA is strengthening, if only because of a perception of a lack of alternative at this point.
I'm a relatively impartial viewer of politics and my opinions reflect my understanding of what's going on.
In turn, is it possible that your reply is quoting the usual Liberal response to its leadership question and perceived lack of policies?

[Jimmy_041]

The MHS question will not go away

Who keeps asking it?

[dedja]

MHS ...

[dedja]

They have been rock solid behind their leader ever since the Steele Hall days

Steele Hall is ancient history old boy - as is John Olson. All parties go through phases like that.
Isobel Redmond was elected leader because she is not part of any of the previous internal loyalty groups from the MHS era and could be accepted by both sides.

The ALP is the party with the most recent instability record, and it took the power brokers a while to muster the internal support for Jay W despite his having been the most popular prospect with potential ALP voters for a long time. (I was sitting at lunch with one of the ALP power brokers when the phone calls were going on just before Rann got the push.)

There are 2 generations of blood on the Liberal party room floor and they still can't clean it all up ... Wilson, Goldsworthy, Hall, Chapman, Evans ... the list goes on and on.

It's the South Aussie version of the Hatfield and McCoys but worse ...