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West Indies in England

Postby the joker » Mon May 21, 2012 5:40 pm

I give the west indies a massive chance tonight
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Re: West Indies in England

Postby CoverKing » Mon May 21, 2012 7:52 pm

Trott barely survived a lbw with it being called not out and showing the impact as 'umpires call'

Could have been easily 3/10
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Re: West Indies in England

Postby heater31 » Mon May 21, 2012 9:23 pm

CoverKing wrote:Trott barely survived a lbw with it being called not out and showing the impact as 'umpires call'

Could have been easily 3/10



Game on for the Windies 4/60 odd and Pieterson gone. Next big wicket is the Essex Wall in Ali Cook.
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Re: West Indies in England

Postby Jim05 » Mon May 21, 2012 11:23 pm

Poms will romp home, Windies have no ticker
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West Indies in England

Postby RustyCage » Tue May 22, 2012 12:45 am

England win by 5 wickets. Cook top scored with 79
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Re: West Indies in England

Postby Sam_goUUUdogs » Tue May 22, 2012 4:54 am

Good to see the West Indies put up a fight in the end, thought it could've been over fairly early on yesterday.
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Re: West Indies in England

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue May 22, 2012 9:51 am

Jim05 wrote:Poms will romp home, Windies have no ticker


No ticker or lack the talent required to match it with the top 4 or 5?

I was most impressed with them in the recent FW trophy.
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Re: West Indies in England

Postby Jim05 » Tue May 22, 2012 11:30 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Poms will romp home, Windies have no ticker


No ticker or lack the talent required to match it with the top 4 or 5?

I was most impressed with them in the recent FW trophy.

A bit of both IMO
They fail to grind out sessions, when they are taking wickets they are all cock-a-hoop but as soon as they go a couple of overs without a wicket the heads drop and the concentration disappears. Good teams keep the pressure on and the spirit up even if they go a session without a wicket. You could see last night that once the partnership got to about 50 they basically conceded.
Maybe thats the influence of the shorter versions, teams just dont want to spend a day in the field anymore
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Re: West Indies in England

Postby Rik E Boy » Tue May 22, 2012 10:26 pm

Jim05 wrote:Poms will romp home, Windies have no ticker


This is a very unfair comment. The Windies have shown fighting characteristics in recent series against India, Australia and now in this test. The problem with the Windies is that there top order is ordinary and they are a bowler short. Their fielding needs to improve a bit but to say their not having a crack is well wide of the mark IMO.

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Re: West Indies in England

Postby Baron Greenback » Wed May 23, 2012 1:07 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Poms will romp home, Windies have no ticker


This is a very unfair comment. The Windies have shown fighting characteristics in recent series against India, Australia and now in this test. The problem with the Windies is that there top order is ordinary and they are a bowler short. Their fielding needs to improve a bit but to say their not having a crack is well wide of the mark IMO.

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Yep, they're poles apart from the side that toured here a few years ago and showed no ticker.
This new crop of players has shown a lot of fight over the past year.
REB's right. They need some quality at the top to take pressure of Chanderpaul and Bravo.
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Re: West Indies in England

Postby whufc » Wed May 23, 2012 1:30 pm

Yep the only real world class quality in our batting line up is Bravo & Chanderpaul. The rest of the batters dont throw there wicket away to often they just lack the class at International level. If we can find a decent opening bat we will start to be alot stronger rather than being 2 for stuff all and having Bravo and Chanderpaul under pressure all the time.

The bowling side isnt to bad but as others have said we are one real good test bowler away from having a quality attack.

The next 5 years is crucial for Windies test cricket. If some of the youngsters come through then Windies cricket will be in good sted. If they have another 5 years of failure test cricket in the Windies will be dead and they will be nothing more than a T20 nation.
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Re: West Indies in England

Postby Jim05 » Wed May 23, 2012 4:53 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Poms will romp home, Windies have no ticker


This is a very unfair comment. The Windies have shown fighting characteristics in recent series against India, Australia and now in this test. The problem with the Windies is that there top order is ordinary and they are a bowler short. Their fielding needs to improve a bit but to say their not having a crack is well wide of the mark IMO.

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Perhaps unfair but even if you dont have skill you can still show enthusiasm.
Too many times Ive seen them drop their heads too early.
I do blame the shorter forms aswell though, teams dont want to grind out a day in the field anymore because they are so used to getting wickets at regular intervals and then all of a sudden when a wicket doesnt fall for 10-20 overs the heads drop and the enthusiasm wanes
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Re: West Indies in England

Postby Baron Greenback » Thu May 24, 2012 9:40 am

Jim05 wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Poms will romp home, Windies have no ticker


This is a very unfair comment. The Windies have shown fighting characteristics in recent series against India, Australia and now in this test. The problem with the Windies is that there top order is ordinary and they are a bowler short. Their fielding needs to improve a bit but to say their not having a crack is well wide of the mark IMO.

regards,

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Perhaps unfair but even if you dont have skill you can still show enthusiasm.
Too many times Ive seen them drop their heads too early.
I do blame the shorter forms aswell though, teams dont want to grind out a day in the field anymore because they are so used to getting wickets at regular intervals and then all of a sudden when a wicket doesnt fall for 10-20 overs the heads drop and the enthusiasm wanes


I've seen the Australian and English teams do that at times too.
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Re: West Indies in England

Postby brod » Fri May 25, 2012 8:18 pm

Second test starts tonight
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Re: West Indies in England

Postby Pottsy » Fri May 25, 2012 9:37 pm

And it's started badly for the Windies - 3/42. Shiv in, wonder how long the barnacle can cling on this time.
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Re: West Indies in England

Postby Media Park » Fri May 25, 2012 10:45 pm

Pottsy wrote:And it's started badly for the Windies - 3/42. Shiv in, wonder how long the barnacle can cling on this time.

Will be not out at the days end.
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Re: West Indies in England

Postby Media Park » Fri May 25, 2012 10:47 pm

Lunch 4/84
Marlon "Lovechild" Samuels... 14 not out from 38 balls, s/rate 36.84
Shiv "Barnacle/Slowcoach/Superstar/Eye Blacker" Chanderpaul... 19 not out from 25 balls, s/rate 76.00 (eat that naysayers)
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Re: West Indies in England

Postby Jim05 » Sat May 26, 2012 12:36 am

Media Park wrote:
Pottsy wrote:And it's started badly for the Windies - 3/42. Shiv in, wonder how long the barnacle can cling on this time.

Will be not out at the days end.

Nup
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Re: West Indies in England

Postby jackpot jim » Sat May 26, 2012 3:47 am

STUMPS Day 1

W.I. 6/304 (90 overs)
Samuels 107* n.o. (225) 3rd test century
Sammy 88* n.o. (121) Highest test score

Highest 7th wkt partnership in tests at Trent Bridge 168* :shock:
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Re: West Indies in England

Postby Pottsy » Sat May 26, 2012 12:35 pm

Geez - you could have named your own price for the chances of that after they slipped to 6/130 odd with the crab out already.

Top stuff windies, very flat pitch though. Did like this quote from Sammy after they asked him about Anderson chirping at him constantly: "James Anderson should know I am batting for the team. A lot of balls that could've been hit for the boundary I left them alone. But when I get a double [century] tomorrow, I would like James Anderson to say something to me."

Also this from Samuels about his two year ban from the game: "I wouldn't tell you it was difficult … I got to spend quality time with my family and go to the beach."

Better than the usual bland media guff.
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