SAAFL Division 7 & D7R (2012)

[t0mmy]

Please dont ramp up this stuff on a forum, if it is as serious as you say then report it to the league, so that it can be handled correctly and if true the offenders can be punished as per the rules

To tarnish a club cause of incident that you dont want to report seems like nothing more than a cheap shot, especially at a club that is rebuilding and got some quality people involved

I am sure that Henley would know how to go about the correct process, considering they have an esteemed member of their Club that sits at the same table I do

Was marbles at the game? Or is fabricating things for Henley and who are these "other" clubs he is waffling on about in Div 7. Be careful who you aim at marbles. Facts are the only thing this forum is interested in.

I was at the game and I am a Henley supporter.
There was an incident in the 2nd quarter in the fwd pocket for Henley that went like this:
- Henley player copped a high tackle from a bloke a foot taller than him. it was an unsporting high tackle intended to either hurt or intimidate him. probably not a send off if the umpire had seen it.
- Henley player remonstrated with the offending player (gave him a few pushes to his chest), ... basically inviting the bloke to punch him
- Henley player gets punched in the mouth

As for the guy that belted him - he looked pretty rough and prone to that sort response.

so if the Henley player is complaining about getting belted, perhaps he could consider a more appropriate course of action next time he gets an unsporting high tackle. ie COP IT AND GET ON WITH THE BLOODY GAME!

Players, coaches and spectators respect that a lot more, and he's much less likely to give you a rude high tackle next time.

But, he bit off more than he could chew and was lucky not to have his jaw broken.

I'm not sure what the Henley player thought he was going to achieve by carrying on with it, all he did was rizz up the Smithies crowd, and a few of the Smithies players, so for the next few minutes there were a few reckless tackles that followed - putting his team-mates at risk.

Just play footy FFS.

It obviosly depends on what the ump saw aye. Luke McDonnell gave a TTG player a slap to the face and got 3 matches. If I was Henley I would push the barrow. A genuine strike on that basis should be 10.Regardless of intimidation, undiscipline is undiscipline and out they should go.

i don't think you make complaints
good clubs will sort out the things that the umps miss for themselves internally
and if some of these gen-y kids need to learn not to pull the tiger's tail the hard way then so be it

[Yank Man]

Think some missed the point. Luke McDonnell = 3 matches. Big news. Could the Lions be in trouble?

[Bigshow82]

Think some missed the point. Luke McDonnell = 3 matches. Big news. Could the Lions be in trouble?

No

[BPwizard]

i don't think the loss of one off ur tower forwards is gunna be that big of a problem, your midfield is the key plus a tight backline, they only kicked a bag first game this year sides target them up forward and if they kick 3/4 each a club would consider job is done on them. who you got over next three weeks that might be a problem.

And why do people wanna call clubs from the north feral, usally one player not a team or club, i think every clubs supporters can be more feral then players i call them sideline wannabes. As for so called incident on weekend there are some teams you do not want to push the boundaries of physical rough stuff.

Also heard a rumor at the smitty v vale game is gunna be league representative to watch and surveyor if any trouble happens on and off the field. Also is it true a carton of beer is on offer if a smitty player knocks out a vale player. paid by smitty coach maybe get in first knock the smity coach out and ask for his payment on the carton.

Are rumor true that he was trouble at central united and why would a club moving forward employ a coach like this.

[LaughingKookaburra]

Why do people call northern clubs feral? Then the very next paragraph you share a rumour that you "heard" a carton of beer is up for grabs for knocking another player out.............you peanut.

[Lightning McQueen]

i don't think the loss of one off ur tower forwards is gunna be that big of a problem, your midfield is the key plus a tight backline, they only kicked a bag first game this year sides target them up forward and if they kick 3/4 each a club would consider job is done on them. who you got over next three weeks that might be a problem.

And why do people wanna call clubs from the north feral, usally one player not a team or club, i think every clubs supporters can be more feral then players i call them sideline wannabes. As for so called incident on weekend there are some teams you do not want to push the boundaries of physical rough stuff.

Also heard a rumor at the smitty v vale game is gunna be league representative to watch and surveyor if any trouble happens on and off the field. Also is it true a carton of beer is on offer if a smitty player knocks out a vale player. paid by smitty coach maybe get in first knock the smity coach out and ask for his payment on the carton.

Are rumor true that he was trouble at central united and why would a club moving forward employ a coach like this.

Come on mate, get some new material, you guys claimed that old chestnut two seasons ago between Central United and Angle Vale because one of your players got injured.
I tell you straight up that if Andy said that to his troops he'd be out of the door immediately, it's hardly the same playing group as what was around when Angle Vale formed, go back to your bowser and whack in $20 unleaded thanks.

[Lightning McQueen]

I was at the game and I am a Henley supporter.
There was an incident in the 2nd quarter in the fwd pocket for Henley that went like this:
- Henley player copped a high tackle from a bloke a foot taller than him. it was an unsporting high tackle intended to either hurt or intimidate him. probably not a send off if the umpire had seen it.
- Henley player remonstrated with the offending player (gave him a few pushes to his chest), ... basically inviting the bloke to punch him
- Henley player gets punched in the mouth

As for the guy that belted him - he looked pretty rough and prone to that sort response.

so if the Henley player is complaining about getting belted, perhaps he could consider a more appropriate course of action next time he gets an unsporting high tackle. ie COP IT AND GET ON WITH THE BLOODY GAME!

Players, coaches and spectators respect that a lot more, and he's much less likely to give you a rude high tackle next time.

But, he bit off more than he could chew and was lucky not to have his jaw broken.

I'm not sure what the Henley player thought he was going to achieve by carrying on with it, all he did was rizz up the Smithies crowd, and a few of the Smithies players, so for the next few minutes there were a few reckless tackles that followed - putting his team-mates at risk.

Just play footy FFS.

Interesting assessment, don't poke the bear because sometimes the bear bites back. Back in the CDFA days you just learnt to get on with it or there's a fair chance you will cop one.
You mentioned that a high deliberate tackle initiated the tempers, I wasn't there at the time but I must say watching 6 or 7 games a weekend tackling has become very sloppy nowadays, it used to feature all of the time at trainings as I remember playing British Bulldog at least once a week at training as a kid, teams are too worried about injuries caused by friendly fire today and therefore hardly anyone lays a good clean tackle any more.

[HAWKBOY]

Interesting assessment, don't poke the bear because sometimes the bear bites back. Back in the CDFA days you just learnt to get on with it or there's a fair chance you will cop one.
You mentioned that a high deliberate tackle initiated the tempers, I wasn't there at the time but I must say watching 6 or 7 games a weekend tackling has become very sloppy nowadays, it used to feature all of the time at trainings as I remember playing British Bulldog at least once a week at training as a kid, teams are too worried about injuries caused by friendly fire today and therefore hardly anyone lays a good clean tackle any more.[/quote]

There are still some very good tacklers around, but usually found in the higher divisions. Nowadays British Bulldog is banned and mummies dont like rough play, so boys dont learn how to tackle well or how to take a tackle without being hurt.

[Lightning McQueen]

There are still some very good tacklers around, but usually found in the higher divisions. Nowadays British Bulldog is banned and mummies dont like rough play, so boys dont learn how to tackle well or how to take a tackle without being hurt.

Teams don't like suffering injuries at training, tackle bags just don't cut it, they don't have hips, they don't sidestep and they don't have arms.

I was talking all age groups and senior divisions that I watch.

[morell]

In this thread:

Aussie Rules people thinking they know how to tackle.

[Lightning McQueen]

In this thread:

Aussie Rules people thinking they know how to tackle.

Eh?

[HAWKBOY]

In this thread:

Aussie Rules people thinking they know how to tackle.

Eh?

Who? What? Where? How? Why?

[morell]

Aussies Rules players can't tackle! Never been able to. We do it fundamentally wrong time after time.

[Lightning McQueen]

Aussies Rules players can't tackle! Never been able to. We do it fundamentally wrong time after time.

1: It's not as integral part of our game as it is in the rugby codes.
2: We tackle to retard disposals where rugby players tackle to prevent the ball carrier moving forward.
3: The standard of tackling has become very poor.

Going back to Saturdays match, I seen a lad from Smithfield in the tense stages of the last quarter where the game was up for grabs go in for a tackle, he got pinged for in the back and those around me had a bit of a whinge and one of them said "what the hell was wrong with that?".
Technically there probably wasn't, but the tackler went in so clumsily it gave the umpire no choice but to ping him, if you stay on your feet you're not going to infringe too often.

[morell]

Aussies Rules players can't tackle! Never been able to. We do it fundamentally wrong time after time.

1: It's not as integral part of our game as it is in the rugby codes.
2: We tackle to retard disposals where rugby players tackle to prevent the ball carrier moving forward.
3: The standard of tackling has become very poor.

Maybe not as integral as Rugby, but it is significantly more important than the amount of time most football clubs dedicate to it. I reckon I learnt more about how to tackle safely and effectively in one training session with the Brighton rugby club than I have in 10 years of football training - just about the only thing I can recall hearing at footy is "watch their hips". Things like which side to put your head, locking your hands and wrists, getting into an effective and structurally powerful position, keeping your feet rather than using the other player to support you, having a leading foot etc etc

It drives me insane even watching AFL and seeing players just completely stuff up what is a pretty simple thing to get right. How many times do we see a player try and grab guernseys? or the latest fad of attempting to chicken wing people? or not building momentum and getting shrugged off?

On the other hand it always surprises me how kicking a football is some sort of feat of magic in Rugby. An exchanging of ideas, methodologies and concepts should occur.

[whufc]

Aussies Rules players can't tackle! Never been able to. We do it fundamentally wrong time after time.

1: It's not as integral part of our game as it is in the rugby codes.
2: We tackle to retard disposals where rugby players tackle to prevent the ball carrier moving forward.
3: The standard of tackling has become very poor.

Maybe not as integral as Rugby, but it is significantly more important than the amount of time most football clubs dedicate to it. I reckon I learnt more about how to tackle safely and effectively in one training session with the Brighton rugby club than I have in 10 years of football training - just about the only thing I can recall hearing at footy is "watch their hips". Things like which side to put your head, locking your hands and wrists, getting into an effective and structurally powerful position, keeping your feet rather than using the other player to support you, having a leading foot etc etc

It drives me insane even watching AFL and seeing players just completely stuff up what is a pretty simple thing to get right. How many times do we see a player try and grab guernseys? or the latest fad of attempting to chicken wing people? or not building momentum and getting shrugged off?

On the other hand it always surprises me how kicking a football is some sort of feat of magic in Rugby. An exchanging of ideas, methodologies and concepts should occur.

Very true but big difference being in Rugby 90-95% of tackles are made where opponents are directly opposite each other while in aussie rules its rare two players run directly face to face at each other.

Also big difference in when tackling a rugby player they are generally trying to hold onto the ball while an aussie rules player will be trying to dispose of a ball.

[BPwizard]

i am a peanut can u come and shell me so i can be free.

[On The Chest]

Aussies Rules players can't tackle! Never been able to. We do it fundamentally wrong time after time.

1: It's not as integral part of our game as it is in the rugby codes.
2: We tackle to retard disposals where rugby players tackle to prevent the ball carrier moving forward.
3: The standard of tackling has become very poor.

Maybe not as integral as Rugby, but it is significantly more important than the amount of time most football clubs dedicate to it. I reckon I learnt more about how to tackle safely and effectively in one training session with the Brighton rugby club than I have in 10 years of football training - just about the only thing I can recall hearing at footy is "watch their hips". Things like which side to put your head, locking your hands and wrists, getting into an effective and structurally powerful position, keeping your feet rather than using the other player to support you, having a leading foot etc etc

It drives me insane even watching AFL and seeing players just completely stuff up what is a pretty simple thing to get right. How many times do we see a player try and grab guernseys? or the latest fad of attempting to chicken wing people? or not building momentum and getting shrugged off?

On the other hand it always surprises me how kicking a football is some sort of feat of magic in Rugby. An exchanging of ideas, methodologies and concepts should occur.

Has tackling skills dropped because in recent times, players don't get rewarded with free kicks as much as they used to?

[Bigshow82]

Although there is no other Nth Pines posters on this site I know a couple read it now and then so I would like to congratulate Gerrad Firebrace on his 250th game for Nth Pines and Keith Fairhurst on his 200th game for Nth Pines. Both playing in the B grade tomorrow. Good work lads.

[Yank Man]

Although there is no other Nth Pines posters on this site I know a couple read it now and then so I would like to congratulate Gerrad Firebrace on his 250th game for Nth Pines and Keith Fairhurst on his 200th game for Nth Pines. Both playing in the B grade tomorrow. Good work lads.

Probably best they don't sometimes Bigshow. Well done to both guys, big milestones. Also good luck tomorrow, win the contested footy and use your big running engine and you can beat Henley.