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Re: The BYE rounds!

Postby Frosty » Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:17 pm

Neither was I - double phew!!
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Re: The BYE rounds!

Postby Hondo » Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:24 pm

It works well if you can delay upgrades until the byes and use your upgrades to work around rounds 11-13

It's whether you can afford to delay many upgrades until then. If you have upgraded already then you are looking at sideways premium swaps which may work out well. For example, NM have a good second half of the season so Andrew Swallow or Boomer Harvey could be good INS after their round 11 bye.
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Re: The BYE rounds!

Postby Banker » Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:33 pm

Also depends how confident you are on making finals.



I was originally intending to sacrifice one of the bye rounds and save my trades, to make sure I had the absolute best team for the Finals.

But due to a shocking start, I'm now forced to burn trades just to make finals.....
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Re: The BYE rounds!

Postby Gingernuts » Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:15 pm

Banker wrote:Also depends how confident you are on making finals.



I was originally intending to sacrifice one of the bye rounds and save my trades, to make sure I had the absolute best team for the Finals.

But due to a shocking start, I'm now forced to burn trades just to make finals.....


Shocking start? We've only had one game. Everyone has a shocker last week.
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Re: The BYE rounds!

Postby Frosty » Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:00 pm

Further to my previous idea which was this;

My plan is as follows - as at round 11 I will have 9 players from the group of teams having a bye that weekend (Adel/Bris/GWS/NM/WCE/Bull), 10 players from the group who have the bye in round 12 (Coll/Ess/Freo/Geel/Melb/Syd) and 11 from the group who have the bye in round 13 (Carl/GC/Haw/Port/Rich/StK).
This means in Round 11 I have 21 eligible players from group 2 and 3, then I trade two players from group 2 to group 1 so the balance will be 11/8/11. This means I have 22 eligible players in the second week of byes. Finally, I trade 2 players from group 3 to group 2 leaving a balance of 11/10/9 and 21 eligible players for the third round of the byes. Overall I get two donuts over the three weeks and burn 4 trades as long as I start with the 9/10/11 format. That's as close as I can get - of course injuries could still kill me but what can you do - any thoughts?

I have now done it this way (keeping in mind the same team bye groupings as before and three trades per week).

Start with 8/10/12, complete three trades to move to 11/8/11 for the second week, then three more trades to go to 12/10/8. This method yields no donuts provided you have all players getting a game and no injuries. Personally, I'd trade premium players during these weeks depending on who is playing GWS/GC/Melb. You'd also only use this method if you were deadly serious about winning the comp overall and not dropping any points along the way.
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Re: The BYE rounds!

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:06 pm

Frosty wrote:Further to my previous idea which was this;

My plan is as follows - as at round 11 I will have 9 players from the group of teams having a bye that weekend (Adel/Bris/GWS/NM/WCE/Bull), 10 players from the group who have the bye in round 12 (Coll/Ess/Freo/Geel/Melb/Syd) and 11 from the group who have the bye in round 13 (Carl/GC/Haw/Port/Rich/StK).
This means in Round 11 I have 21 eligible players from group 2 and 3, then I trade two players from group 2 to group 1 so the balance will be 11/8/11. This means I have 22 eligible players in the second week of byes. Finally, I trade 2 players from group 3 to group 2 leaving a balance of 11/10/9 and 21 eligible players for the third round of the byes. Overall I get two donuts over the three weeks and burn 4 trades as long as I start with the 9/10/11 format. That's as close as I can get - of course injuries could still kill me but what can you do - any thoughts?

I have now done it this way (keeping in mind the same team bye groupings as before and three trades per week).

Start with 8/10/12, complete three trades to move to 11/8/11 for the second week, then three more trades to go to 12/10/8. This method yields no donuts provided you have all players getting a game and no injuries. Personally, I'd trade premium players during these weeks depending on who is playing GWS/GC/Melb. You'd also only use this method if you were deadly serious about winning the comp overall and not dropping any points along the way.


After perusing my team and setting up an excel sheet with club representation by position and whether they are a premium, mid-ranger or rookie I am confident I can get through the split rounds with relative ease.
I'm a bit heavy on GWS rookies but they'll be gradually cashed in over time.
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Re: The BYE rounds!

Postby Alaska » Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:24 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Frosty wrote:Further to my previous idea which was this;

My plan is as follows - as at round 11 I will have 9 players from the group of teams having a bye that weekend (Adel/Bris/GWS/NM/WCE/Bull), 10 players from the group who have the bye in round 12 (Coll/Ess/Freo/Geel/Melb/Syd) and 11 from the group who have the bye in round 13 (Carl/GC/Haw/Port/Rich/StK).
This means in Round 11 I have 21 eligible players from group 2 and 3, then I trade two players from group 2 to group 1 so the balance will be 11/8/11. This means I have 22 eligible players in the second week of byes. Finally, I trade 2 players from group 3 to group 2 leaving a balance of 11/10/9 and 21 eligible players for the third round of the byes. Overall I get two donuts over the three weeks and burn 4 trades as long as I start with the 9/10/11 format. That's as close as I can get - of course injuries could still kill me but what can you do - any thoughts?

I have now done it this way (keeping in mind the same team bye groupings as before and three trades per week).

Start with 8/10/12, complete three trades to move to 11/8/11 for the second week, then three more trades to go to 12/10/8. This method yields no donuts provided you have all players getting a game and no injuries. Personally, I'd trade premium players during these weeks depending on who is playing GWS/GC/Melb. You'd also only use this method if you were deadly serious about winning the comp overall and not dropping any points along the way.


After perusing my team and setting up an excel sheet with club representation by position and whether they are a premium, mid-ranger or rookie I am confident I can get through the split rounds with relative ease.
I'm a bit heavy on GWS rookies but they'll be gradually cashed in over time.


Unless they are replaced by juicy GWS ones coming up! :?
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Re: The BYE rounds!

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:57 pm

Alaska wrote:
Unless they are replaced by juicy GWS ones coming up! :?


They will be, along with other ones coming through, Treloar, Neale, Del'Ollio, Shaw plus many more coming through, will spend the first half of the season using them to get upgrades on others.
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Re: The BYE rounds!

Postby McAlmanac » Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:15 pm

Hondo wrote:It works well if you can delay upgrades until the byes and use your upgrades to work around rounds 11-13

It's whether you can afford to delay many upgrades until then. If you have upgraded already then you are looking at sideways premium swaps which may work out well. For example, NM have a good second half of the season so Andrew Swallow or Boomer Harvey could be good INS after their round 11 bye.

Sensible policy, although I'm not keen on sideway trades. The whole mantra is to increase premiums progressively through the year so that you have the maximum possible in the latter part of the year.

Despite hitting number 1 early in the piece, I now kind of regret having as many mid pricers as I do.
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Re: The BYE rounds!

Postby McAlmanac » Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:17 pm

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Q. wrote:Out of contention for the major prize, i'm going to judge it in my opponents in each league and how badly I need wins in those particular leagues. May mean sacrificing one of those rounds to preserve trades, particularly if upgrades/downgrades are not ready.


Thats where my confusion comes from. Im sitting 106th overall so i still have that little dream inside of overrall glory. Under normal circumstances the two sides im playing this week average 1900 so i should have them covered BUT i want to maintain my overall position so thinking Martin needs to go out bring Sidebottom in. The two advantages are he is in better form, helps my side out come bye weeks disadvantages are Martin may GUN it very soon and i look the fool.

Think long term and go for gold! :-bd
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Re: The BYE rounds!

Postby unknown source » Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:45 pm

these should be bye weeks for supercoach also
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Re: The BYE rounds!

Postby Rik E Boy » Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:33 pm

There might be more donuts this week than during the Bye rounds.

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Re: The BYE rounds!

Postby Media Park » Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:49 pm

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Re: The BYE rounds!

Postby RustyCage » Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:36 pm

I don't think the bye rounds will be the killers a lot of people are making them out to be. Every team will get a few 0s that week, no point killing trades trying to change that
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Re: The BYE rounds!

Postby Media Park » Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:01 pm

pafc1870 wrote:I don't think the bye rounds will be the killers a lot of people are making them out to be. Every team will get a few 0s that week, no point killing trades trying to change that

I will only be making trades if:
1) I lose a player to a season ending injury
2) There is a MAJOR advantage in trading.
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Re: The BYE rounds!

Postby McAlmanac » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:56 am

pafc1870 wrote:I don't think the bye rounds will be the killers a lot of people are making them out to be. Every team will get a few 0s that week, no point killing trades trying to change that

It will only be an issue for those at the pointy end of the overall rankings.
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Re: The BYE rounds!

Postby fish » Mon May 28, 2012 9:48 pm

Have finally looked at the bye rounds and what they mean for my team and it ain't pretty. :(

However with careful use of six trades during the bye rounds I reckon I can win two of the rounds but get absolutely smashed (with nine donuts!) in the other.
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Re: The BYE rounds!

Postby PurplePower » Tue May 29, 2012 10:31 am

fish wrote:Have finally looked at the bye rounds and what they mean for my team and it ain't pretty. :(

However with careful use of six trades during the bye rounds I reckon I can win two of the rounds but get absolutely smashed (with nine donuts!) in the other.

If you dont trade at all you could still win two of those games. Its such a waste of trades.
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Re: The BYE rounds!

Postby Hondo » Wed May 30, 2012 1:54 pm

McAlmanac wrote:
Hondo wrote:It works well if you can delay upgrades until the byes and use your upgrades to work around rounds 11-13

It's whether you can afford to delay many upgrades until then. If you have upgraded already then you are looking at sideways premium swaps which may work out well. For example, NM have a good second half of the season so Andrew Swallow or Boomer Harvey could be good INS after their round 11 bye.

Sensible policy, although I'm not keen on sideway trades. The whole mantra is to increase premiums progressively through the year so that you have the maximum possible in the latter part of the year.

Despite hitting number 1 early in the piece, I now kind of regret having as many mid pricers as I do.


Yes since my post i have used more traded than I expected so sideways moves are now canned for me
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Re: The BYE rounds!

Postby Q. » Wed May 30, 2012 4:55 pm

I'm painfully waiting for the bye rounds to upgrade. Have to settle for sub-par scores and some losses, but hopefully I can make this up during the bye rounds and minimise the burning of trades.
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