Kapunda Killer

[Pseudo]

So, if capital punishment were an option, how many posters would like to see the Kapunda killer executed as opposed to a life sentence?

An execution would certainly make for the better viewing experience. Life sentence wouldn't rate as highly, being little more than an extended episode of Big Brother.

[Pseudo]

State-sanctioned murder does not deter homicide, does not deter crime and does not protect society.

It does the opposite, it's known as the brutalisation effect - "Execution stimulates homicides in three ways: (1) executions desensitize the public to the immorality of killing, increasing the probability that some people will then decide to kill; (2) the state legitimizes the notion that vengeance for past misdeeds is acceptable; and (3) executions also have an imitation effect, where people actually follow the example set by the state, after all, people feel if the government can kill its enemies, so can they."


You can't permanently eliminate everyone that **** up in life and the Hitler-esque thirst for social cleansing is pathetic.

Where did you cut and paste that crap from? Believe everything you read?

Criminological science that bases argument on fact, not emotion.

So the reference to a "Hitler-esque thirst for social cleansing" was something you came across in a "Criminological science" (sic) text, not just emotional hyperbole...

[westcoastpanther]

State-sanctioned murder does not deter homicide, does not deter crime and does not protect society.

It does the opposite, it's known as the brutalisation effect - "Execution stimulates homicides in three ways: (1) executions desensitize the public to the immorality of killing, increasing the probability that some people will then decide to kill; (2) the state legitimizes the notion that vengeance for past misdeeds is acceptable; and (3) executions also have an imitation effect, where people actually follow the example set by the state, after all, people feel if the government can kill its enemies, so can they."


You can't permanently eliminate everyone that **** up in life and the Hitler-esque thirst for social cleansing is pathetic.

Where did you cut and paste that crap from? Believe everything you read?

Criminological science that bases argument on fact, not emotion.

So the reference to a "Hitler-esque thirst for social cleansing" was something you came across in a "Criminological science" (sic) text, not just emotional hyperbole...

Got him....yes

[OnSong]

So......how about this weather?

[Q.]

State-sanctioned murder does not deter homicide, does not deter crime and does not protect society.

It does the opposite, it's known as the brutalisation effect - "Execution stimulates homicides in three ways: (1) executions desensitize the public to the immorality of killing, increasing the probability that some people will then decide to kill; (2) the state legitimizes the notion that vengeance for past misdeeds is acceptable; and (3) executions also have an imitation effect, where people actually follow the example set by the state, after all, people feel if the government can kill its enemies, so can they."


You can't permanently eliminate everyone that **** up in life and the Hitler-esque thirst for social cleansing is pathetic.

Where did you cut and paste that crap from? Believe everything you read?

Criminological science that bases argument on fact, not emotion.

So the reference to a "Hitler-esque thirst for social cleansing" was something you came across in a "Criminological science" (sic) text, not just emotional hyperbole...

Pure frustration.

Although I do actually think the systematic State-sanctioned elimination of individuals is a little Hitler-esque.

[LMA]

When there is absolutely no doubt and they confess to it then yes they should be put to death.
This guy confessed to these horrible murders, i have no problem with his life being ended

This is what I am talking about. But Zelzeny cant see past that poor 1 in a million bloke

It's a helluva lot less than 1-in-a-million. In the US, since 1973, 140 people have been released from death row with evidence of their innocence.

How many have been wrongly imprisoned since advanced DNA forensics ? I don't know when the whole DNA thing got really advanced but I'd imagine the majority of them would of been incarcerated prior to say late 90's

[Q.]

When there is absolutely no doubt and they confess to it then yes they should be put to death.
This guy confessed to these horrible murders, i have no problem with his life being ended

This is what I am talking about. But Zelzeny cant see past that poor 1 in a million bloke

It's a helluva lot less than 1-in-a-million. In the US, since 1973, 140 people have been released from death row with evidence of their innocence.

How many have been wrongly imprisoned since advanced DNA forensics ? I don't know when the whole DNA thing got really advanced but I'd imagine the majority of them would of been incarcerated prior to say late 90's

New DNA evidence probably exonerated most of them.

[Booney]

At least he appologised with his letter. (Advertiser)

7 pages and we were all sucked in by this.

[Q.]

At least he appologised with his letter. (Advertiser)

7 pages and we were all sucked in by this.

[scoob]

At least he appologised with his letter. (Advertiser)

7 pages and we were all sucked in by this.

Carp thread!

[Lightning McQueen]

FFS

[The Sleeping Giant]

When there is absolutely no doubt and they confess to it then yes they should be put to death.
This guy confessed to these horrible murders, i have no problem with his life being ended

plenty of examples of "confessions" being coersed etc.

West memphis 3.

[mick]

When there is absolutely no doubt and they confess to it then yes they should be put to death.
This guy confessed to these horrible murders, i have no problem with his life being ended

plenty of examples of "confessions" being coersed etc.

West memphis 3.

Is that you Zimmy?

[The Sleeping Giant]

When there is absolutely no doubt and they confess to it then yes they should be put to death.
This guy confessed to these horrible murders, i have no problem with his life being ended

plenty of examples of "confessions" being coersed etc.

West memphis 3.

Is that you Zimmy?

We arw both good looking. ;-)

[smac]

[quote="Q."]State-sanctioned murder does not deter homicide, does not deter crime and does not protect society.

It does the opposite, it's known as the brutalisation effect - "Execution stimulates homicides in three ways: (1) executions desensitize the public to the immorality of killing, increasing the probability that some people will then decide to kill; (2) the state legitimizes the notion that vengeance for past misdeeds is acceptable; and (3) executions also have an imitation effect, where people actually follow the example set by the state, after all, people feel if the government can kill its enemies, so can they."


You can't permanently eliminate everyone that **** up in life and the Hitler-esque thirst for social cleansing is pathetic.

Where did you cut and paste that crap from? Believe everything you read?

Criminological science that bases argument on fact, not emotion.

So the reference to a "Hitler-esque thirst for social cleansing" was something you came across in a "Criminological science" (sic) text, not just emotional hyperbole...

Pure frustration.

Although I do actually think the systematic State-sanctioned elimination of individuals is a little Hitler-esque.[/quote]
Then you should enter the Olympics in long jump.

You are comparing the killer of millions of Jews to the killer of murderers.

I don't disagree that capital punishment isn't the answer, but there are better arguments than that one.

[Q.]

So the reference to a "Hitler-esque thirst for social cleansing" was something you came across in a "Criminological science" (sic) text, not just emotional hyperbole...

Pure frustration.

Although I do actually think the systematic State-sanctioned elimination of individuals is a little Hitler-esque.

Then you should enter the Olympics in long jump.

You are comparing the killer of millions of Jews to the killer of murderers.

I don't disagree that capital punishment isn't the answer, but there are better arguments than that one.

It's not the basis of my argument and never has been in the million threads on this topic.

All data and evidence shows that State-sanctioned murder does not deter crime, does not prevent murder and actually makes society less safe, which is why civilised countries don't employ it anymore.

[Dirko]

which is why civilised countries don't employ it anymore.

Civilised countries like Singapore?

[smac]

So the reference to a "Hitler-esque thirst for social cleansing" was something you came across in a "Criminological science" (sic) text, not just emotional hyperbole...

Pure frustration.

Although I do actually think the systematic State-sanctioned elimination of individuals is a little Hitler-esque.

Then you should enter the Olympics in long jump.

You are comparing the killer of millions of Jews to the killer of murderers.

I don't disagree that capital punishment isn't the answer, but there are better arguments than that one.

It's not the basis of my argument and never has been in the million threads on this topic.

All data and evidence shows that State-sanctioned murder does not deter crime, does not prevent murder and actually makes society less safe, which is why civilised countries don't employ it anymore.

Not arguing that point. Just your long jump.

[Q.]

which is why civilised countries don't employ it anymore.

Civilised countries like Singapore?

lol, I think you missed my thinly veiled dig at the US

[Q.]

Then you should enter the Olympics in long jump.

You are comparing the killer of millions of Jews to the killer of murderers.

I don't disagree that capital punishment isn't the answer, but there are better arguments than that one.

It's not the basis of my argument and never has been in the million threads on this topic.

All data and evidence shows that State-sanctioned murder does not deter crime, does not prevent murder and actually makes society less safe, which is why civilised countries don't employ it anymore.

Not arguing that point. Just your long jump.

And I normally keep my ambitious statements in check