Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

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Re: Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby Executive Member » Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:54 pm

heater31 wrote:
Executive Member wrote: Interesting to note that they spent a lot of time in opposition change rooms after the game sharing a few jokes, whilst spending 30 seconds in The Lodge rooms


Are you implying that Goodwood paid extra? :shock:

As a former member of the very team in question that would not be the case. Goodwood have a lot of experienced players who have been around turf cricket for years. They know full well that the umpiring can be laughable at times but its A3 cricket, deal with it. If you don't like it then assemble a team to move up a grade, can't guarantee it would be a better umpiring standard though.


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Never said anything about that
Simply pointing out that the umpires knew them and if in the same boat I would've been appealing for everything as well

The issue is the two muppets in the middle are past it and should be scoring and not umpiring
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby OKC! » Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:06 pm

Executive Member wrote:
Yardy Lard wrote:
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Browny25 wrote:Nothing like paying someone to ruin your day!


Especially when sitting at mid wicket boundary you hear the inside edge onto the pad and the 90 year old can't hear it cause he hasn't turned his hearing aid on :roll:



One of the very, very, very ordinary efforts from both umpires (especially one who is noted for being trigger happy) that I have ever seen. Would not have wanted to be a player or coach anymore, as it would be very easy to become highly frustrated and say something that the umpires would not be happy with. Well done to the BL lads for not indulging in any sledging of the two guys supposedly in charge.


Players yes but there were a couple of non players that did point out some of their errors and made a few suggestions to them eg turning hearing aids on, direct hits on a run out doesn't automatically make the guy out and that they aren't the most important people in the middle

Interesting to note that they spent a lot of time in opposition change rooms after the game sharing a few jokes, whilst spending 30 seconds in The Lodge rooms


You don't think that has anything to do with your umpires room actually just being a corner in the away change rooms? We sat next to the umpires while we padded up at your place.
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Re: Re: Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby heater31 » Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:14 pm

Executive Member wrote:
heater31 wrote:
Executive Member wrote: Interesting to note that they spent a lot of time in opposition change rooms after the game sharing a few jokes, whilst spending 30 seconds in The Lodge rooms


Are you implying that Goodwood paid extra? :shock:

As a former member of the very team in question that would not be the case. Goodwood have a lot of experienced players who have been around turf cricket for years. They know full well that the umpiring can be laughable at times but its A3 cricket, deal with it. If you don't like it then assemble a team to move up a grade, can't guarantee it would be a better umpiring standard though.


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Never said anything about that
Simply pointing out that the umpires knew them and if in the same boat I would've been appealing for everything as well

The issue is the two muppets in the middle are past it and should be scoring and not umpiring



Hence why they do it. I only played one season there in A3. It's a two way street, we were shat on by the men in blue shirts numerous times. Worked in favour about the same amount.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby stretch » Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:04 pm

Saw an interesting bit of captaincy Sat.

An opposition team was sent in to bat out the last 30 overs of the day having lost the first innings and been set a pretty unlikely target to chase for victory. The team in question was sitting second to bottom and so in danger of relegation come seasons end.

What's got me stumped is rather than attempt to make some runs and score some bonus points to lift themselves out of relegation the team instead blocked out the remaining 30 overs without attempting to score. We're not talking about batting conservatively and waiting for the bad ball to come, instead think 'let everything possible go through to the keeper and block anything hitting the stumps' without ever considering a run to change the strike over.

Now I'm pretty sure once you've lost on first innings you've got nothing to lose, only bonus and outright points to gain. Giving away points to the opposition would not in any way shape their relegation battle. My question is what was the bloke thinking?
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby Senor Moto Gadili » Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:29 pm

stretch wrote:Saw an interesting bit of captaincy Sat.

An opposition team was sent in to bat out the last 30 overs of the day having lost the first innings and been set a pretty unlikely target to chase for victory. The team in question was sitting second to bottom and so in danger of relegation come seasons end.

What's got me stumped is rather than attempt to make some runs and score some bonus points to lift themselves out of relegation the team instead blocked out the remaining 30 overs without attempting to score. We're not talking about batting conservatively and waiting for the bad ball to come, instead think 'let everything possible go through to the keeper and block anything hitting the stumps' without ever considering a run to change the strike over.

Now I'm pretty sure once you've lost on first innings you've got nothing to lose, only bonus and outright points to gain. Giving away points to the opposition would not in any way shape their relegation battle. My question is what was the bloke thinking?

What game was that? Surely you don't expect them to just gift you an outright for the sake of a few bonus points
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby stretch » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:58 pm

Senor Moto Gadili wrote:
stretch wrote:Saw an interesting bit of captaincy Sat.

An opposition team was sent in to bat out the last 30 overs of the day having lost the first innings and been set a pretty unlikely target to chase for victory. The team in question was sitting second to bottom and so in danger of relegation come seasons end.

What's got me stumped is rather than attempt to make some runs and score some bonus points to lift themselves out of relegation the team instead blocked out the remaining 30 overs without attempting to score. We're not talking about batting conservatively and waiting for the bad ball to come, instead think 'let everything possible go through to the keeper and block anything hitting the stumps' without ever considering a run to change the strike over.

Now I'm pretty sure once you've lost on first innings you've got nothing to lose, only bonus and outright points to gain. Giving away points to the opposition would not in any way shape their relegation battle. My question is what was the bloke thinking?

What game was that? Surely you don't expect them to just gift you an outright for the sake of a few bonus points


B2 game. Goodwood v Concordia.

You're right, you'd never gift a team an outright. But i know if I was walking out to bat I'd be looking to make runs where I could rather than play french cricket.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby Senor Moto Gadili » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:03 am

stretch wrote:
Senor Moto Gadili wrote:
stretch wrote:Saw an interesting bit of captaincy Sat.

An opposition team was sent in to bat out the last 30 overs of the day having lost the first innings and been set a pretty unlikely target to chase for victory. The team in question was sitting second to bottom and so in danger of relegation come seasons end.

What's got me stumped is rather than attempt to make some runs and score some bonus points to lift themselves out of relegation the team instead blocked out the remaining 30 overs without attempting to score. We're not talking about batting conservatively and waiting for the bad ball to come, instead think 'let everything possible go through to the keeper and block anything hitting the stumps' without ever considering a run to change the strike over.

Now I'm pretty sure once you've lost on first innings you've got nothing to lose, only bonus and outright points to gain. Giving away points to the opposition would not in any way shape their relegation battle. My question is what was the bloke thinking?

What game was that? Surely you don't expect them to just gift you an outright for the sake of a few bonus points


B2 game. Goodwood v Concordia.

You're right, you'd never gift a team an outright. But i know if I was walking out to bat I'd be looking to make runs where I could rather than play french cricket.

Well, it may have seemed like french cricket to you, but it seems to have done the job. Concordia are stone motherless in B2 and have already lost outright 3 times. I'm sure they would have been a player or two short on Saturday, so doing what they did to stop the fourth outright makes sense.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby Senor Moto Gadili » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:14 am

Some strange captaincy on Sat. Side sitting 2nd on ladder sets the bottom team (who were short on players) 194 off 30 overs in 2nd innings and wonders why they didn't win outright?
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby Trader » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:33 am

Concordia are only last in B2 cause they are too busy stacking their LO side.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby Senor Moto Gadili » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:20 am

Trader wrote:Concordia are only last in B2 cause they are too busy stacking their LO side.

I'm sure they are not the only team guilty of that
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby Dogmatic » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:33 pm

stretch wrote:Saw an interesting bit of captaincy Sat.

An opposition team was sent in to bat out the last 30 overs of the day having lost the first innings and been set a pretty unlikely target to chase for victory. The team in question was sitting second to bottom and so in danger of relegation come seasons end.

What's got me stumped is rather than attempt to make some runs and score some bonus points to lift themselves out of relegation the team instead blocked out the remaining 30 overs without attempting to score. We're not talking about batting conservatively and waiting for the bad ball to come, instead think 'let everything possible go through to the keeper and block anything hitting the stumps' without ever considering a run to change the strike over.

Now I'm pretty sure once you've lost on first innings you've got nothing to lose, only bonus and outright points to gain. Giving away points to the opposition would not in any way shape their relegation battle. My question is what was the bloke thinking?

On the flip side why would you set that target if you are playing a bottom team?
Could have declared earlier,
Their points make no difference to Goodwood.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby sometalent » Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:36 pm

Happen to stop in a see Para Hlls play Saturday. Saw a left arm spinner bowling for them, the kid goes alright. Heard he isn't happy out there due to a fallout with his captain, can anyone from the club or on here confirm or deny this? Would be a good pick up
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby no_remorse28 » Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:12 pm

Does anyone know were to locate the Bylaw on Follow ons, is it half the score or 100 runs, and does it have to be enforced or can u just bat again, Curiosity
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby old fullback » Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:16 pm

no_remorse28 wrote:Does anyone know were to locate the Bylaw on Follow ons, is it half the score or 100 runs, and does it have to be enforced or can u just bat again, Curiosity

I believe it to be 100 runs, and no you do not have to enforce it.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby Trader » Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:57 pm

old fullback wrote:
no_remorse28 wrote:Does anyone know were to locate the Bylaw on Follow ons, is it half the score or 100 runs, and does it have to be enforced or can u just bat again, Curiosity

I believe it to be 100 runs, and no you do not have to enforce it.


Correct. Never heard of the "half the score" version!!!
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby Yardy Lard » Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:31 pm

no_remorse28 wrote:Does anyone know were to locate the Bylaw on Follow ons, is it half the score or 100 runs, and does it have to be enforced or can u just bat again, Curiosity



Rule on follow-ons unless changed recently has always been:
This is an ICC law and may be different or changed by Adelaide Turf as they often have their own rules.
This rule has been in since the mid 70's, regarding follow-ons in Test, First Class, District Cricket and Adelaide Turf, unless recently changed.
5 Day cricket - 200 runs
3 and 4 Day cricket - 150 runs
2 Day cricket - 100 runs
1 Day cricket - 75 runs

Have been in a side asked to follow on in all of the above, except 5 day cricket (which have never played)
Most embarrassing was being 180 behind at Sedden Park, (Trust Bank Park) in Hamilton (NZ) in a four day game, but managed to salvage a draw.

No enforcement of the follow-on at all. A side can elect to bat again, or send the opposition back in.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby affup » Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:34 pm

Its getting pretty tight in A2 now with the top 5 teams having only 6 points separating them.
Flinders Uni 106.360 still to play Ingle Farm/Modbury/Hectorville
Pooraka 105.120 Marion/Para Hills/Reynella
Para Hills 103.905 SPOC/Pooraka/Modbury
Ingle Farm 103.470 Flinders Uni/Hectorville/Flinders Pk
Marion 100.310 Pooraka/Old Scotch/Concordia

A few massive games this week could make or break some teams
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby bulldogs » Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:37 am

affup wrote:Its getting pretty tight in A2 now with the top 5 teams having only 6 points separating them.
Flinders Uni 106.360 still to play Ingle Farm/Modbury/Hectorville
Pooraka 105.120 Marion/Para Hills/Reynella
Para Hills 103.905 SPOC/Pooraka/Modbury
Ingle Farm 103.470 Flinders Uni/Hectorville/Flinders Pk
Marion 100.310 Pooraka/Old Scotch/Concordia

A few massive games this week could make or break some teams

very correct affup, huge round of games. Concordia have also kept themselves in the hunt.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby OKC! » Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:24 am

affup wrote:Its getting pretty tight in A2 now with the top 5 teams having only 6 points separating them.
Flinders Uni 106.360 still to play Ingle Farm/Modbury/Hectorville
Pooraka 105.120 Marion/Para Hills/Reynella
Para Hills 103.905 SPOC/Pooraka/Modbury
Ingle Farm 103.470 Flinders Uni/Hectorville/Flinders Pk
Marion 100.310 Pooraka/Old Scotch/Concordia

A few massive games this week could make or break some teams


Going on our recent form of losing 3 of 4 home matches this year we will be glad to get away for the last 3 games and hopfully continue our unbeaten streak away from home!

Gonna be very close come last round. Very surprised Flinders Uni are top!!
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby Down the Hill » Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:39 pm

And why does it surprise you that the FUCC are top OKC.
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