STEVE WAUGH overated ? choker?

[the wonder elephant]

sorry forum

[Hafey]

no other cricketer at international level has amassed as many runs by french cuts and edges over / threw the slips . Steve Waugh was a good leader but a ordinary batsmen , wouldnt make current test side at his best .

[Stumps]

no other cricketer at international level has amassed as many runs by french cuts and edges over / threw the slips . Steve Waugh was a good leader but a ordinary batsmen , wouldnt make current test side at his best .

Not worth even commenting on Hafey. Terrible post.

[Rik E Boy]

no other cricketer at international level has amassed as many runs by french cuts and edges over / threw the slips . Steve Waugh was a good leader but a ordinary batsmen , wouldnt make current test side at his best .

BWAHAHAHAHAHA. You're a funny guy Tommy.

regards,

REB

[mighty_tiger_79]

no other cricketer at international level has amassed as many runs by french cuts and edges over / threw the slips . Steve Waugh was a good leader but a ordinary batsmen , wouldnt make current test side at his best .

hard to argue that

[scoob]

hafey = AG .... both good judges

[the wonder elephant]

hafey that has got to be the most stupid thing ever written why dont you stick to posting about things you know which is nothing in other words just piss off !!

[am Bays]

no other cricketer at international level has amassed as many runs by french cuts and edges over / threw the slips . Steve Waugh was a good leader but a ordinary batsmen , wouldnt make current test side at his best .

Impossible to average over 50 at test level for 18 years living on edges through slips and french cuts. If thats all you got damn easy to set a field to so you don't score any runs and or get them out.

Christ I know not everyone is going to like him or rate him but gee Hafey if your going to bag him at least gets some facts behind you like Mal has with his 4th innings criticisms.

[mal]

The shots over slips and point were mostly deliberate shots.
He had incedible strong wrists which enabled him to play those shots.

When the ball was bouncing in the first digs he was a star batsman
Being a predominantly a back foot player he played the rising ball very effectively
At times he looked ugly jumping on the crease line to balls at his body but
given any width outside off he was dynamite

When the ball was keeping low in the last innings he definitely had a technical fault
You need to play forward to negate low bounce and movement off the pitch.
He was trapped a few times playing back, when he should have played forward perhaps

Last innings choke ? possibly to a certain extent
Technical flaws on wearing surfaces, perhaps closer to the mark

HAFEY has a point to a degree
WAUGH did scrounge a few runs with streaky shots
But what he lacked in fluency he made up for with grit, determination and
endless concentration, those qualities very few could match[except batting last ]

[Hafey]

hafey that has got to be the most stupid thing ever written why dont you stick to posting about things you know which is nothing in other words just piss off !!

Whats stupid about that comment knob head ? lets hear your words of wisdom einstein ....

Waugh scored the majority of his runs behind square of the wicket , alot of the reason being that opposition captains believe his weakness was the short ball so in turn he would get peppered with quick short stuff which saw him fending away getting edges . Waugh himself would admitt that .

[Stumps]

Waugh himself would probably admit in the same sentence that has made 10927 test runs at an average of 51.06 .
The majority of these runs were made against non "minnows" and the windies, south african, pakistan, indian attacks all a shitload better than what they serve up these days. Fair enough the poms attack were weak, but they still are.

To say waugh wouldnt make the current side is laughable- he'd be one of the first picked for mine (and that's even taking into account he hasnt held a bat for 3 years!!)

you are clearly taking the piss hafey
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[Stumps]

I must have missed the new rules that a run behind square isnt worth as much as one in front- do you play indoor hafey??

[Maddogmike]

Either that or he associates with blokes like Harrington from East Torrens who is a Class A knob end!

[Hafey]

I must have missed the new rules that a run behind square isnt worth as much as one in front- do you play indoor hafey??

Indoor cricket is a board game isn't it ...... Something myself and Mrs Hafey play in the caravan when its pissing down with rain outside .

I agree Steve's record is respectable but he wouldnt make my 11 , would select Mark Waugh in my 11 before Steve . Ill even give you my batting order from the last 15 years .
1.Hayden
2.Taylor
3.Ponting
4.Border
5.M.Waugh
6.Gilchrist

[am Bays]

Waugh scored the majority of his runs behind square of the wicket , alot of the reason being that opposition captains believe his weakness was the short ball so in turn he would get peppered with quick short stuff which saw him fending away getting edges . Waugh himself would admitt that .

Nah I disagree had scored a lot of his runs behind square leg but his two other main scoring zones were back offside between cover and point (watch Ashes 89, 93 and 97 to see what I mean) and through mid wicket. Next popular zone would be third man.....

has main modus operandi was to tuck it around the corner then wait for the off side width when bowlers got frustrated by being turned around the corner and put through cover and point....

BTW their weren't too many french cuts in his leg side runs either....i wont say there wasn't any but not as many as you think T-shirt!!!!

Pitched up on the stumps through mid wicket.....

As I said having watched ASHES 89, 93 and 97 along with "Waugh in the Windies 95" several times when i get teh video and TV for once in his big innings those are the zones he prefers.....

[heater31]

Waugh scored the majority of his runs behind square of the wicket , alot of the reason being that opposition captains believe his weakness was the short ball so in turn he would get peppered with quick short stuff which saw him fending away getting edges . Waugh himself would admitt that .

Fair dinkum Hafey, the reason oposing captains set fields for the short ball is beacuse Steve Waugh refused to hook or pull the short ball therefore he would either cop it on the chin or fend away


his back foot cover drives are some of the best cricket shots going around, the ball would be crashing into the fence before the bowler worked out what had happened.

[Stumps]

I must have missed the new rules that a run behind square isnt worth as much as one in front- do you play indoor hafey??

Indoor cricket is a board game isn't it ...... Something myself and Mrs Hafey play in the caravan when its pissing down with rain outside .

I agree Steve's record is respectable but he wouldnt make my 11 , would select Mark Waugh in my 11 before Steve . Ill even give you my batting order from the last 15 years .
1.Hayden
2.Taylor
3.Ponting
4.Border
5.M.Waugh
6.Gilchrist

If you were choosing a top 6 to bat for your life your not far off the mark. the only problem is M waugh ahead of S. He is twice as good looking but unfortunately for him didnt score anywhere near as many runs, and hence wasnt as good. As I was once told "It is not how..... but how many"

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[Maddogmike]

Sounds like your talking from experience stumpsie???

[am Bays]

his back foot cover drives are some of the best cricket shots going around, the ball would be crashing into the fence before the bowler worked out what had happened.

I'd like to argue against that but can't......stevewaughs back foot off side play was exceptional....

[Hafey]

havent heard much about steves talents with the cherry , maybe because opposition batsmen used to help themselves to his buffett balls .

mark might not of made as many runs but he took alot more wickets and catches .... catches win matches !!