Gay marriage, yes or no...?

[FlyingHigh]

I knew someone would point out how my post would be inconsistent with other issues in life, but that's my thoughts on the issue.

[White Line Fever]

Let's keep it clean and keep this thread open.

No Agro here please.

Just try and stop me.....


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Yes for gay marriage.

Brother in law
1st cousin

Does it affect me - absolutely not

However I'm not sold on adoption for same sex couples due to potential bullying

[The Sleeping Giant]

I too agree it should not be an issue.
People should be able to formalise their partnership and have it recognised as such regardless of gender.
(However I do oppose public funding of IVF services - for anyone - in an overpopulated world.)[/quote]

Beat me too it Pysber
Not concerned about gay marriages one way or the other, but fully agree with this last line.

Maybe if a couple is on their 3rd or 4th child, but for a couple who are trying for their 1st or 2nd child IVF should definately be a valid option no question.

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Preface this by saying I am not in that situation, I just don't believe because we CAN do it that we SHOULD do it. In addition to the population argument, I believe that is the hand nature has dealt someone, put up with it.

But science has a solution. I look at some families and think they shouldn't be breeding.

[MatteeG]

Preface this by saying I am not in that situation, I just don't believe because we CAN do it that we SHOULD do it. In addition to the population argument, I believe that is the hand nature has dealt someone, put up with it.

As someone who has had to go through IVF, I say **** you. Toughest experience I've ever had. I can only hope nature deals you a rough trot.

[OnSong]

Preface this by saying I am not in that situation, I just don't believe because we CAN do it that we SHOULD do it. In addition to the population argument, I believe that is the hand nature has dealt someone, put up with it.

As someone who has had to go through IVF, I say **** you. Toughest experience I've ever had. I can only hope nature deals you a rough trot.

This is a whole different kettle of fish though, surely?

[Wedgie]

Preface this by saying I am not in that situation, I just don't believe because we CAN do it that we SHOULD do it. In addition to the population argument, I believe that is the hand nature has dealt someone, put up with it.

As someone who has had to go through IVF, I say **** you. Toughest experience I've ever had. I can only hope nature deals you a rough trot.

Did you end up getting pregnant?

[Lightning McQueen]

I knew someone would point out how my post would be inconsistent with other issues in life, but that's my thoughts on the issue.

Some thoughts should be left in your head. You can't deny people the opportunity to parent.

Life has weird ways of evolving, you need a licenece to drive a car, you can't watch an R rated movie until you are 18 but you can parent a child with no manual, test, licence and at any age after puberty.
No wonder we end up with so many mis-fits.

[MatteeG]

Preface this by saying I am not in that situation, I just don't believe because we CAN do it that we SHOULD do it. In addition to the population argument, I believe that is the hand nature has dealt someone, put up with it.

As someone who has had to go through IVF, I say **** you. Toughest experience I've ever had. I can only hope nature deals you a rough trot.

Did you end up getting pregnant?

Arnie made it look so easy in 'Junior'

[Booney]

I knew someone would point out how my post would be inconsistent with other issues in life, but that's my thoughts on the issue.

Some thoughts should be left in your head. You can't deny people the opportunity to parent.

Life has weird ways of evolving, you need a licenece to drive a car, you can't watch an R rated movie until you are 18 but you can parent a child with no manual, test, licence and at any age after puberty.
No wonder we end up with so many mis-fits.

On SA Footy, or in life in general?

[Mythical Creature]

Preface this by saying I am not in that situation, I just don't believe because we CAN do it that we SHOULD do it. In addition to the population argument, I believe that is the hand nature has dealt someone, put up with it.[/quote]

I beleive that IVF is a great medical advancement, and the screening tests they do are a whole lot more stringent than the back seat of your car. Like I said if couples are having trouble conceiving and would like to use IVF option, the technology should be accessible to them especially for the first or second child. I'm not entirely sold on using it for any more kids than that but that is just my opinion.

[southee]

Preface this by saying I am not in that situation, I just don't believe because we CAN do it that we SHOULD do it. In addition to the population argument, I believe that is the hand nature has dealt someone, put up with it.

As someone who has had to go through IVF, I say **** you. Toughest experience I've ever had. I can only hope nature deals you a rough trot.

Yeah....same here MattyG!!!

Some people are pathetic in their views that have not been through it and should shut the f** up.

[Lightning McQueen]

Preface this by saying I am not in that situation, I just don't believe because we CAN do it that we SHOULD do it. In addition to the population argument, I believe that is the hand nature has dealt someone, put up with it.

As someone who has had to go through IVF, I say **** you. Toughest experience I've ever had. I can only hope nature deals you a rough trot.

Yeah....same here MattyG!!!

Some people are pathetic in their views that have not been through it and should shut the f** up.

I've never been through it but could imagine the heartache, we had 6 mis-carriages before, in between and after our kids, that hurt.

[ORDoubleBlues]

interesting that as far as i'm aware, the word 'marriage' is derived from a greek word meaning " a union between man and woman'

Not against it as such but as far as having kids go, no I don't agree with that at all.

[FlyingHigh]

Preface this by saying I am not in that situation, I just don't believe because we CAN do it that we SHOULD do it. In addition to the population argument, I believe that is the hand nature has dealt someone, put up with it.

As someone who has had to go through IVF, I say **** you. Toughest experience I've ever had. I can only hope nature deals you a rough trot.

Regarding the first part, that's fine, I expect that reaction.
As far as the second part goes, if that happens, then so be it, I am not the only creature on this earth.

[Dog_ger]

Apologies to all

I should have thought better before starting this thread.

Can a mod change it to say Same Sex Marriage, yes or no...?

I did not mean to offend anyone.

[OnSong]

Hold on, what's the difference?

[The Dark Knight]

Yes, can't see why it can't be legalised, wouldn't effect my life in anyway.

Read on the politics forum that Labour are trying to get the gay marriage law past so they can generate votes for themselves, if true smart move IMO.

Not quite, the Left faction want the laws amended. Given that Gillard opposes it and her cabinet reshuffle has rewarded the right faction of her party I don't think we are likely to see it become official party policy any time soon.

Aha, I didn't know that.

[The Dark Knight]

it reminds me of how women were never allowed to vote..... i cant believe this was the case... seems they make all the decisions now... especially in my house

You must live in the same house I do Johnno!

[Pseudo]

Can a mod change it to say Same Sex Marriage, yes or no...?

No. "Same Sex Marriage" sounds too gay.

[Pseudo]

As someone who has had to go through IVF, I say **** you. Toughest experience I've ever had. I can only hope nature deals you a rough trot.

Referring to more than just the bit where you put the seed onto the petri dish, I assume?