Metro South Juniors

[as you wood]

Has anyone heard what is happening to ( Edwardstown )in MSJ, have been told that their juniors U12,11,10,9,8, are staying put in Metro but U14's and 16's have left and gone to SFL.

[zedman]

2011 MSJFL had 4 teams in the boutique u/16.5 grade..it was a complete joke..a farce, you play each other 6 times..edwardstown won it..if they pull out of 14's and 16.5's for 2012 its a massive blow to the league..its struggling anyway as it is..

[Bluedemon]

Edwardstowns 14 and 16 are staying in Metro South for 2012 and beyond.

[Patrol]

Edwardstowns 14 and 16 are staying in Metro South for 2012 and beyond.

I hate to tell you "Bluedemon" that under the rules of SFL that Edwardstown juniors were to all come over by 2012 but the the SFL and Edwardstown have came to an agreement that 14's & 16's are to play in the SFL (2012) and juniors 12 and down, have 1 more year in MSJFL and then all of Edwardstown Juniors will be under the SFL by 2013.
Sorry to say

[Bluedemon]

Edwardstowns 14 and 16 are staying in Metro South for 2012 and beyond.

I hate to tell you "Bluedemon" that under the rules of SFL that Edwardstown juniors were to all come over by 2012 but the the SFL and Edwardstown have came to an agreement that 14's & 16's are to play in the SFL (2012) and juniors 12 and down, have 1 more year in MSJFL and then all of Edwardstown Juniors will be under the SFL by 2013.
Sorry to say

who told you this?

[Patrol]

Edwardstowns 14 and 16 are staying in Metro South for 2012 and beyond.

I hate to tell you "Bluedemon" that under the rules of SFL that Edwardstown juniors were to all come over by 2012 but the the SFL and Edwardstown have came to an agreement that 14's & 16's are to play in the SFL (2012) and juniors 12 and down, have 1 more year in MSJFL and then all of Edwardstown Juniors will be under the SFL by 2013.
Sorry to say

who told you this?

I Went to SFL Junior delegates meeting last monday and sat in and listen to what was going on and the topic came up about Townies Juniors. All Clubs were told that they are coming over in 2012 and the rest 2013 and what i stated in last comment. So i Heard it from Delegates and SFL
So that' how i know
Sorry "Bluedemon" That life ?

[as you wood]

I hear that the sword is about to swing at EFC and the blood will flow,
Believe that one MSFL Jrn coordinator (BK) will be told to come on board or back off (out the door ) apparently B.K.has been negative to the whole thing.

[Jetters]

If this is true the Edwardstown Football Club has acted in pretty bad faith towards to MSJFL by being quite deceptive about the whole thing.

I think they could find some problems moving to the Southern League as their numbers took a serious hit when their seniors went and rumours of the juniors moving began.The massive increase in travel time is a big turn off for parents.

[as you wood]

If this is true the Edwardstown Football Club has acted in pretty bad faith towards to MSJFL by being quite deceptive about the whole thing.

I think they could find some problems moving to the Southern League as their numbers took a serious hit when their seniors went and rumours of the juniors moving began.The massive increase in travel time is a big turn off for parents.

No i dont think that EFC has acted in bad faith, as EFC have been aware of the move to SFL, all were told in 2008 and was told if coming across all of EFC will have to fill all sides on a saturday by 2012.
But once again some people have bucked the system and the SFL have given them till 2013 to fill all juniors from 13 down to be under the SFL.
For travelling whats the problem if your child wants to play football and improve. this maybe that involves an extra 15 to 20 min travel , you as a parent will take your child regardless what distance you need to travel. I know that i would

[Esteban Vihaio]

If this is true the Edwardstown Football Club has acted in pretty bad faith towards to MSJFL by being quite deceptive about the whole thing.

I think they could find some problems moving to the Southern League as their numbers took a serious hit when their seniors went and rumours of the juniors moving began.The massive increase in travel time is a big turn off for parents.

Massive increase is a bit much. I'd take a trip from efc with the expressway to aldinga over a trip to port Adelaide, angle vale or mod bury any day. I know the late only occurs when you hit seniors, but it is the pot calling the kettle black

In the minis there is a north and south comp. Brighton, mvpfc, Marion are all close. The rest are about an extra five or ten mins.

[LaughingKookaburra]

How many times as a parent will you take a junior in msjfl to play in angle vale or Pt.Adelaide? Very valid point from Jetters. When you're older you can make your own choices. Most of the time that choice is either playing footy or sinking p!ss and chasing skirt. I'm a driven man and combined all 3......

[locky801]

Seems changes in a number of areas, the CDJFL has basically folded and joined the NEMJFA. Lot of persons (parents) from sides in the NEMJFA also complaining now of having to travel extra distances. Put into perspective lets remember it works both ways, you have to travel there, they have to travel to your home ground as well. Not sure of Edwardstowns reason but a club with such a great history would have done some homework one would think

[Jetters]

You do not have to make assumptions regarding how travelling will effect the Edwardstown juniors, just look at the numbers. The effect on the EFC junior numbers since the whole SFL shift began has been quite staggering. They went from being one of the largest and strongest clubs in the comp to a weaker club.

as you wood: For you to say the EFC has not acted in bad faith towards the MSJFL you surely must have been privy to talks between the club and the MSJFL; at risk of making false assumptions, I would think you were not.

Esteban: whats Port Adelaide of Angle Vale got to do with anything at all?

[Esteban Vihaio]

You do not have to make assumptions regarding how travelling will effect the Edwardstown juniors, just look at the numbers. The effect on the EFC junior numbers since the whole SFL shift began has been quite staggering. They went from being one of the largest and strongest clubs in the comp to a weaker club.

as you wood: For you to say the EFC has not acted in bad faith towards the MSJFL you surely must have been privy to talks between the club and the MSJFL; at risk of making false assumptions, I would think you were not.

Esteban: whats Port Adelaide of Angle Vale got to do with anything at all?

If your seniors can travel to two to three times the distnace for a game of seniors compared to sfl, it is a bit rich to claim 5- 15 minutes is the end of the world.

Brigton were the previous club to leave the SAAFL to SFL and i wouldn't exactly say they struggle. In every junior grade they have two sides, bar under 18's. In tye under 16's they have three sides

[as you wood]

You do not have to make assumptions regarding how travelling will effect the Edwardstown juniors, just look at the numbers. The effect on the EFC junior numbers since the whole SFL shift began has been quite staggering. They went from being one of the largest and strongest clubs in the comp to a weaker club.

as you wood: For you to say the EFC has not acted in bad faith towards the MSJFL you surely must have been privy to talks between the club and the MSJFL; at risk of making false assumptions, I would think you were not.

Esteban: whats Port Adelaide of Angle Vale got to do with anything at all?

If your seniors can travel to two to three times the distnace for a game of seniors compared to sfl, it is a bit rich to claim 5- 15 minutes is the end of the world.

Brigton were the previous club to leave the SAAFL to SFL and i wouldn't exactly say they struggle. In every junior grade they have two sides, bar under 18's. In tye under 16's they have three sides

Esteban couldn't agree more with you.

But it seems that one Junior delegate (EFC) has put the wind up the parents about joining the SFL with all the Crap of distance, to far and it dosen't provide a better standard of football compared to what they are in MSJFL. What alot of crap
I think and know it provides a great atmosphere when having all grades playing on the same day and the Clubs benifit over canteen and gate takings
Most of all the standard of Football increases as teams play a different team each week. They don't play the same team every 3 weeks (what and how does this improve ones ability and skills )

[Yank Man]

The SFL havn't been too happy with Towns keeping their juniors in Metro Sth as playing them in SFL was a condition of them joining the league in 2008. Now the pressure is on and they don't have choice. True enough some Town junior people are not happy because most of their kids are associated at SHOC and Westminster which means they would be committed to Saty footy with their schools. Plus the SHOCers arn't real keen on SFL and would affect numbers for sure. You take your hat off to Brighton because they have done it well but the southern schools don't play a saty comp and are all aligned to the clubs so they get stronger each year. Towns like their junior success but they will find SFL a different proposition.

[Esteban Vihaio]

The SFL havn't been too happy with Towns keeping their juniors in Metro Sth as playing them in SFL was a condition of them joining the league in 2008. Now the pressure is on and they don't have choice. True enough some Town junior people are not happy because most of their kids are associated at SHOC and Westminster which means they would be committed to Saty footy with their schools. Plus the SHOCers arn't real keen on SFL and would affect numbers for sure. You take your hat off to Brighton because they have done it well but the southern schools don't play a saty comp and are all aligned to the clubs so they get stronger each year. Towns like their junior success but they will find SFL a different proposition.

I would think that towns will be like mvp and only field their sides on the sunday. It is quite difficult for the sides in the plains to field side on a saturday due to college commitments as you mention. I've hear they have about 40 kids in u/14's who can only play sunday football. It does mean their saturday sides are not as strong, but it does mean they will have good seniors in 5 years.

[Yank Man]

The SFL havn't been too happy with Towns keeping their juniors in Metro Sth as playing them in SFL was a condition of them joining the league in 2008. Now the pressure is on and they don't have choice. True enough some Town junior people are not happy because most of their kids are associated at SHOC and Westminster which means they would be committed to Saty footy with their schools. Plus the SHOCers arn't real keen on SFL and would affect numbers for sure. You take your hat off to Brighton because they have done it well but the southern schools don't play a saty comp and are all aligned to the clubs so they get stronger each year. Towns like their junior success but they will find SFL a different proposition.

I would think that towns will be like mvp and only field their sides on the sunday. It is quite difficult for the sides in the plains to field side on a saturday due to college commitments as you mention. I've hear they have about 40 kids in u/14's who can only play sunday football. It does mean their saturday sides are not as strong, but it does mean they will have good seniors in 5 years.

I hear you but they have cleared 26 players back to SHOC in the last 4 years. Seems the Towns and the sunday comp is a good breeding ground for SHOCs seniors. Look at SHOCs record.

[Esteban Vihaio]

The SFL havn't been too happy with Towns keeping their juniors in Metro Sth as playing them in SFL was a condition of them joining the league in 2008. Now the pressure is on and they don't have choice. True enough some Town junior people are not happy because most of their kids are associated at SHOC and Westminster which means they would be committed to Saty footy with their schools. Plus the SHOCers arn't real keen on SFL and would affect numbers for sure. You take your hat off to Brighton because they have done it well but the southern schools don't play a saty comp and are all aligned to the clubs so they get stronger each year. Towns like their junior success but they will find SFL a different proposition.

I would think that towns will be like mvp and only field their sides on the sunday. It is quite difficult for the sides in the plains to field side on a saturday due to college commitments as you mention. I've hear they have about 40 kids in u/14's who can only play sunday football. It does mean their saturday sides are not as strong, but it does mean they will have good seniors in 5 years.

I hear you but they have cleared 26 players back to SHOC in the last 4 years. Seems the Towns and the sunday comp is a good breeding ground for SHOCs seniors. Look at SHOCs record.

Well it is understandable that they will lose some as their players play for both shocs and brighton and juniors. Is 6.25 per year too much?

What I do know is that their seniors are not exactly struggling and they have had this setup for several years now.

[jjh]

Edwardstowns 14 and 16 are staying in Metro South for 2012 and beyond.

I hate to tell you "Bluedemon" that under the rules of SFL that Edwardstown juniors were to all come over by 2012 but the the SFL and Edwardstown have came to an agreement that 14's & 16's are to play in the SFL (2012) and juniors 12 and down, have 1 more year in MSJFL and then all of Edwardstown Juniors will be under the SFL by 2013.
Sorry to say

who told you this?

I Went to SFL Junior delegates meeting last monday and sat in and listen to what was going on and the topic came up about Townies Juniors. All Clubs were told that they are coming over in 2012 and the rest 2013 and what i stated in last comment. So i Heard it from Delegates and SFL
So that' how i know
Sorry "Bluedemon" That life ?

you said u/12s down
wrong its u/13s down