Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby on_a_length » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:05 pm

Tiger Couple wrote:
So that is potentially 0/7 grounds fit for play, I am sure you are correct that Reynella would have got away that makes it 1/8 which is 25% and if that was then stadard around the State then surely the Assocition did the right thing.


Could you work out my batting average for me? :lol:
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby tigerpie » Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:14 pm

:lol: nice one o.n.l
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby Down the Hill » Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:08 pm

Hey guys, we all play turf cricket because it is "real" cricket but it comes with the baggage of playing on wickets that can be plain crap or wickets affected by weather. Crap wickets are normally the same both weeks so a level playing field, but wet wickets can ruin a fair contest just by a 3 second toss of a coin. At a recent game at Payneham, covers allowed us to get a fair game on week 1 but it still took 10 blokes to get them off very very carefully and even then some major water got spilled onto the pitch surrounds and had to be covered over with soil and clippings before play started. Several games were washed out that week so all good for Payneham for having covers.

But putting covers on, keeping them on, avoiding idiots from tampering with them, getting them off, and drying them before putting them away, is a far bigger task than many of you are giving credit for. Many clubs such as Flinders Uni and most Old Scholar clubs do not curate their own wickets and for OHS and other legal reasons are not allowed access to any mechanical equipment. Friday arvo is the final prep these wickets get. Yes not ideal but many of these wickets and grounds are the best going around when no wet weather so that is the trade off.

The ATCA spans North-South almost 70km from Reynella to Penfield and about 20km East-West and weather can change a hell of alot over that distance. SACA didn't get called off 2 weeks ago yet only 1 A grade game got a start and the silly Southern Dist. skipper won the toss and batted and they were duly bowled out for 71. They ended up losing outright on Saturday.

Covers may only cause more issues for clubs because not every club will always be in a position to get them on before rain hits and in some case pitches may not get the best preparation due to covers being on in the days leading up and restricting the curator's ability to get on the wicket. This will just cause further bickering and "investigations" as to why or how a wicket was unplayable.

I think we all go into a season realising that we are likley to miss at least 2 or 3 of the 20/21 Saturday's of the minor round and these days are often the best days of the year where guys assemble at their club or pub and make a day of it.

Looking at alot of the scores from Saturday, there were plenty of close games with guys making runs and taking wickets on what would have mostly been pretty good wickets. I know the wicket at Flinders Uni was an absolute belter, so is anyone still complaining we got called off the Saturday before.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby am Bays » Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:15 pm

Down the Hill wrote:Looking at alot of the scores from Saturday, there were plenty of close games with guys making runs and taking wickets on what would have mostly been pretty good wickets. I know the wicket at Flinders Uni was an absolute belter, so is anyone still complaining we got called off the Saturday before.


Made to order for your square cut DTH??
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby on_a_length » Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:15 pm

Down the Hill wrote:Hey guys, we all play turf cricket because it is "real" cricket but it comes with the baggage of playing on wickets that can be plain crap or wickets affected by weather. Crap wickets are normally the same both weeks so a level playing field, but wet wickets can ruin a fair contest just by a 3 second toss of a coin. At a recent game at Payneham, covers allowed us to get a fair game on week 1 but it still took 10 blokes to get them off very very carefully and even then some major water got spilled onto the pitch surrounds and had to be covered over with soil and clippings before play started. Several games were washed out that week so all good for Payneham for having covers.

But putting covers on, keeping them on, avoiding idiots from tampering with them, getting them off, and drying them before putting them away, is a far bigger task than many of you are giving credit for. Many clubs such as Flinders Uni and most Old Scholar clubs do not curate their own wickets and for OHS and other legal reasons are not allowed access to any mechanical equipment. Friday arvo is the final prep these wickets get. Yes not ideal but many of these wickets and grounds are the best going around when no wet weather so that is the trade off.

The ATCA spans North-South almost 70km from Reynella to Penfield and about 20km East-West and weather can change a hell of alot over that distance. SACA didn't get called off 2 weeks ago yet only 1 A grade game got a start and the silly Southern Dist. skipper won the toss and batted and they were duly bowled out for 71. They ended up losing outright on Saturday.

Covers may only cause more issues for clubs because not every club will always be in a position to get them on before rain hits and in some case pitches may not get the best preparation due to covers being on in the days leading up and restricting the curator's ability to get on the wicket. This will just cause further bickering and "investigations" as to why or how a wicket was unplayable.

I think we all go into a season realising that we are likley to miss at least 2 or 3 of the 20/21 Saturday's of the minor round and these days are often the best days of the year where guys assemble at their club or pub and make a day of it.

Looking at alot of the scores from Saturday, there were plenty of close games with guys making runs and taking wickets on what would have mostly been pretty good wickets. I know the wicket at Flinders Uni was an absolute belter, so is anyone still complaining we got called off the Saturday before.


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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby tigerpie » Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:40 pm

Liked your post DTH. As we are community based clubs, all participants (or as many as needed) should make themselves available to remove covers. It basically boils down to; if you want to play as many games as you can,because the players are paying their subs, its in their best interests to help out.
In my experience the super sopper gets most of the water off the covers then very minimal amount will end up on the surrounds.
I dont have a problem if we ALL get washed out but when some get away in one area, then the next week we can play but get told its off it makes it a little unfair.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby no_remorse28 » Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:38 pm

This week could be interesting, 37 friday, but forecast for 25 and on and off rain on Saturday, not great for us sides chasing outrights :evil:
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby EldersUniSA » Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:04 pm

What are the chances we play you think?

I noticed that Brighton was awarded 10 points vs. ICCSA in round 2 of LOC by a 'transgression of the Bylaws'.
Brighton scored 197 and ICCSA chased them down in 25 overs, does anyone know what happened here?
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby Trader » Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:48 pm

EldersUniSA wrote:What are the chances we play you think?


63.27358%

EldersUniSA wrote:I noticed that Brighton was awarded 10 points vs. ICCSA in round 2 of LOC by a 'transgression of the Bylaws'.
Brighton scored 197 and ICCSA chased them down in 25 overs, does anyone know what happened here?


Normally I'd assume that meant they forfeited a higher team which isn't allowed, but that's not the case, so who knows! Would be keen to hear the full story as I know plenty of teams had trouble with these guys last year.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby Down the Hill » Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:02 am

Trader wrote:
EldersUniSA wrote:What are the chances we play you think?


63.27358%

EldersUniSA wrote:I noticed that Brighton was awarded 10 points vs. ICCSA in round 2 of LOC by a 'transgression of the Bylaws'.
Brighton scored 197 and ICCSA chased them down in 25 overs, does anyone know what happened here?


Normally I'd assume that meant they forfeited a higher team which isn't allowed, but that's not the case, so who knows! Would be keen to hear the full story as I know plenty of teams had trouble with these guys last year.


Maybe they exceeded their Singh allowance?
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby mickey » Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:08 am

Down the Hill wrote:Maybe they exceeded their Singh allowance?

#-o :-q
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby bulldogs » Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:17 am

Ill be spewing if we dont get away. Bowled side out for 66 we are 5/220 and they only have 9 players rocking up Saturday. Outright would be handy seen as though we lost our 1st 2.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby Trader » Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:22 pm

bulldogs wrote:Ill be spewing if we dont get away. Bowled side out for 66 we are 5/220 and they only have 9 players rocking up Saturday. Outright would be handy seen as though we lost our 1st 2.


At least you have the first innings points locked away.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby bulldogs » Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:25 pm

Trader wrote:
bulldogs wrote:Ill be spewing if we dont get away. Bowled side out for 66 we are 5/220 and they only have 9 players rocking up Saturday. Outright would be handy seen as though we lost our 1st 2.


At least you have the first innings points locked away.

so true. either wash everyone out or let us play
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby mickey » Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:55 pm

The question has to be asked.... why bat so long?? Get 100 up and have a crack ay them in the last hour..
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby Trader » Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:40 pm

mickey wrote:The question has to be asked.... why bat so long?? Get 100 up and have a crack ay them in the last hour..


Runs in the 1st innings are 50% more valuable than the 2nd?
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby beeroclock » Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:15 pm

mickey wrote:The question has to be asked.... why bat so long?? Get 100 up and have a crack ay them in the last hour..

Id say that Bulldogs was still at the crease.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby The Hound » Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:51 am

With the comp going to 10 team grades next year, I am predicting some very interesting declarations from now on especially in the A2 comp with 5 teams going down, peoples thoughts on the 10 team format
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby bulldogs » Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:06 pm

beeroclock wrote:
mickey wrote:The question has to be asked.... why bat so long?? Get 100 up and have a crack ay them in the last hour..

Id say that Bulldogs was still at the crease.

Trader is correct Bonus points. No point winning outright with 60 overs still to play cost a side way to many points.

Think you might also be correct beero
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby interested observer » Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:30 pm

bulldogs wrote:
beeroclock wrote:
mickey wrote:The question has to be asked.... why bat so long?? Get 100 up and have a crack ay them in the last hour..

Id say that Bulldogs was still at the crease.

Trader is correct Bonus points. No point winning outright with 60 overs still to play cost a side way to many points.

Think you might also be correct beero



Surely the Captain would not be entertaining the thought of batting on ??????? :shock:
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