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Re: Foxtel Cup!!!!!!

Postby HOORAY PUNT » Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:15 pm

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Re: Foxtel Cup!!!!!!

Postby HOORAY PUNT » Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:22 pm

on the rails wrote:
Sojourner wrote:
southee wrote:
DOC wrote:If South get an invite we will accept.


Im not for it.....but I will leave it up to the club to make that decision.

I think it can backfire.


Come on Southee, think of the SAFC members weekend footy trip to the MCG! 8)


Shouldn't cost too much to hire a Mini Bus in that case then?


Why go to that expense , just go in the 1 car.
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Re: Foxtel Cup!!!!!!

Postby southee » Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:33 pm

Sojourner wrote:
southee wrote:
DOC wrote:If South get an invite we will accept.


Im not for it.....but I will leave it up to the club to make that decision.

I think it can backfire.


Come on Southee, think of the SAFC members weekend footy trip to the MCG! 8)


True Sojourner.....I reckon Cambridge Clarrie would jump on the bandwagon too!!!! ;)
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Re: Foxtel Cup!!!!!!

Postby Gozu » Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:23 am

NORWOOD and the Eagles will await more detail before deciding whether to play in the 2012 Foxtel Cup but Central has virtually ruled out playing.

The SANFL is yet to receive details on the 2012 competition but it is likely the top three clubs - who all rejected offers to play in the competition in 2011 - would again receive first bite at the cherry next year.

Woodville-West Torrens chief executive Chris Davies said the reigning SANFL premier did not have a "closed mindset" to the AFL run competition which pits state league clubs from across Australia against one another.


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Re: Foxtel Cup!!!!!!

Postby Sojourner » Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:31 am

Gozu wrote:NORWOOD and the Eagles will await more detail before deciding whether to play in the 2012 Foxtel Cup but Central has virtually ruled out playing.

The SANFL is yet to receive details on the 2012 competition but it is likely the top three clubs - who all rejected offers to play in the competition in 2011 - would again receive first bite at the cherry next year.

Woodville-West Torrens chief executive Chris Davies said the reigning SANFL premier did not have a "closed mindset" to the AFL run competition which pits state league clubs from across Australia against one another.


http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl ... 6191640244


Would be interesting to see how the SANFL Premiers would actually go against the Premiers of the WAFL and VFL, There would be little excuse to lose to Port Melbourne because their side has no AFL listed players at all unlike Williamstown.
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Re: Foxtel Cup!!!!!!

Postby Jim05 » Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:01 am

Im happy to support the club whatever the decision they take. If we enter the cup I would want to try and win it and play our full strength side, no giving kids a runs and resting the senior guys. For it to be taken serious we cant use it as a trial game, either commit fully or not at all
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Re: Foxtel Cup!!!!!!

Postby Ian » Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:59 pm

Jim05 wrote:Im happy to support the club whatever the decision they take.
You are allowed to have an opinion
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Re: Foxtel Cup!!!!!!

Postby Jim05 » Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:24 am

Ian wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Im happy to support the club whatever the decision they take.
You are allowed to have an opinion

Im not keen on entering but i do not have all the finer details that the club does. If they think it is worth it then go for it
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Re: Foxtel Cup!!!!!!

Postby redandblack » Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:41 am

I saw the Foxtel Cup as being a good experience for West.

We had previously had a terrible record after having a bye, but won both times after the Foxtel Cup game.

The game that killed our season was the second game at prospect. We played extremely well to win comfortably with our best side for the year, but lost Nat Caruso with a broken ankle, had 3 players missing games after that through suspension from that game, lost 2 or 3 back to the AFL and had two possible replacements injured in the Ressies game.

We were thrashed by Sturt next game with a totally different team and never recovered.

That's football, though, but it was much more significant than any Foxtel Cup repercussions.

We probably won't get an invitation next year, but we'd agree quickly if we did.
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Re: Foxtel Cup!!!!!!

Postby mal » Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:02 am

Micky Mouse competition
Until all State clubs are involved this comp it is insignificant and it has no status with me
Sport is over saturated these days perhaps 30 years ago it may have been more a hit
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Re: Foxtel Cup!!!!!!

Postby Sojourner » Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:26 pm

mal wrote:Micky Mouse competition
Until all State clubs are involved this comp it is insignificant and it has no status with me
Sport is over saturated these days perhaps 30 years ago it may have been more a hit


Sure its not sour grapes because Williamstown showed the SANFL who the best side outside of the AFL is? Doubt very much whether Central would have got within six goals of them either!
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Re: Foxtel Cup!!!!!!

Postby StrayDog » Sun Nov 13, 2011 3:10 am

mal wrote:Micky Mouse competition
Until all State clubs are involved this comp it is insignificant and it has no status with me
Sport is over saturated these days perhaps 30 years ago it may have been more a hit

Possibly.

Still, whatever value the broader populace places on it, I'd like to think that if my club were ever to play off for any title of this nature that it would be valued highly enough draw a respectable crowd and TV audience.

This year's 1,400 at Subiaco and 30k metro TV audience falls a bit short on both counts IMO.



mal wrote:Micky Mouse competition....
Sojourner wrote:Sure its not sour grapes because Williamstown showed the SANFL who the best side outside of the AFL is? Doubt very much whether Central would have got within six goals of them either!

Ah, righto, I get it.

Being the team that wins four consecutive 2/3rds (ish) length matches in a retail monolith backed, 15 game knockout Pay TV tournament makes you the best in the country. Beating that team by nine goals to finish the regular season (of actual full length matches) undefeated only makes you the best in your home state.

Fair enough.

So, Sojourner, does this now make the VFL the best competition outside the AFL?
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Re: Foxtel Cup!!!!!!

Postby holden78 » Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:24 am

Sojourner wrote:
Gozu wrote:NORWOOD and the Eagles will await more detail before deciding whether to play in the 2012 Foxtel Cup but Central has virtually ruled out playing.

The SANFL is yet to receive details on the 2012 competition but it is likely the top three clubs - who all rejected offers to play in the competition in 2011 - would again receive first bite at the cherry next year.

Woodville-West Torrens chief executive Chris Davies said the reigning SANFL premier did not have a "closed mindset" to the AFL run competition which pits state league clubs from across Australia against one another.


http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl ... 6191640244


Would be interesting to see how the SANFL Premiers would actually go against the Premiers of the WAFL and VFL, There would be little excuse to lose to Port Melbourne because their side has no AFL listed players at all unlike Williamstown.
The Eagles wont put at risk their title chances Im sure of that , but really no club who is fair dinkum should be stupid enough to think that into September it wont make a difference as we ran out of petrol tickets right on the marathon finish line , thats the proof right there ! Poxtel Cup or Premiership Cup ..... no choice really is there ? :roll:
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Re: Foxtel Cup!!!!!!

Postby Big Phil » Sun Nov 13, 2011 1:08 pm

Sojourner wrote:
mal wrote:Micky Mouse competition
Until all State clubs are involved this comp it is insignificant and it has no status with me
Sport is over saturated these days perhaps 30 years ago it may have been more a hit


Sure its not sour grapes because Williamstown showed the SANFL who the best side outside of the AFL is? Doubt very much whether Central would have got within six goals of them either!


What about Port Melbourne?
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Re: Foxtel Cup!!!!!!

Postby csbowes » Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:05 pm

StrayDog wrote:So, Sojourner, does this now make the VFL the best competition outside the AFL?

Well one thing is certain... not having competed in it, removes any right you have to say you are the best... Williamstown went in it and beat everyone they came across... rightful national champions I reckon...

Otherwise, do we go back and remove "Champions of Australia" titles from everyone because "some" teams were given no chance to win it... or can I bestow that honour on Sturt a few times because the VFL champion wouldn't play us?
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Re: Foxtel Cup!!!!!!

Postby Grahaml » Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:22 pm

csbowes wrote:
StrayDog wrote:So, Sojourner, does this now make the VFL the best competition outside the AFL?

Well one thing is certain... not having competed in it, removes any right you have to say you are the best... Williamstown went in it and beat everyone they came across... rightful national champions I reckon...

Otherwise, do we go back and remove "Champions of Australia" titles from everyone because "some" teams were given no chance to win it... or can I bestow that honour on Sturt a few times because the VFL champion wouldn't play us?


Winning the Champions of Australia games didn't make anyone the best team in the country. It meant you won the competition called the Champions of Australia competition. Similarly the winner, whether Centrals et all competed or not, wasn't automatically the best side in the country (outside the AFL of course), just the side that won the games that needed to be won. The SANFL premiers similarly aren't necessarily the best team either. But we don't compete the be the best team, we compete to be the winning team on GF day.
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Re: Foxtel Cup!!!!!!

Postby SANFLnut » Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:32 am

Is it possible that Centrals, Norwood and Eagles decline to participate. Glenelg and Sturt knock back the offer again too. West and Port decide it did not help last season and choose not to play. North and South decide that their priority is to make Finals this year.........and noone wants to play?
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Re: Re: Foxtel Cup!!!!!!

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:47 am

Grahaml wrote:
csbowes wrote:
StrayDog wrote:So, Sojourner, does this now make the VFL the best competition outside the AFL?

Well one thing is certain... not having competed in it, removes any right you have to say you are the best... Williamstown went in it and beat everyone they came across... rightful national champions I reckon...

Otherwise, do we go back and remove "Champions of Australia" titles from everyone because "some" teams were given no chance to win it... or can I bestow that honour on Sturt a few times because the VFL champion wouldn't play us?


Winning the Champions of Australia games didn't make anyone the best team in the country. It meant you won the competition called the Champions of Australia competition. Similarly the winner, whether Centrals et all competed or not, wasn't automatically the best side in the country (outside the AFL of course), just the side that won the games that needed to be won. The SANFL premiers similarly aren't necessarily the best team either. But we don't compete the be the best team, we compete to be the winning team on GF day.

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Re: Foxtel Cup!!!!!!

Postby DOC » Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:11 am

SANFLnut wrote:Is it possible that Centrals, Norwood and Eagles decline to participate. Glenelg and Sturt knock back the offer again too. West and Port decide it did not help last season and choose not to play. North and South decide that their priority is to make Finals this year.........and noone wants to play?


South will be playing if we are offered
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Re: Foxtel Cup!!!!!!

Postby PhilH » Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:29 pm

South have publically stated they are in if asked and they need only one of Eagles, Central or Norwood to decline to receive that invite.

I would be surprised if West & Port who still remain supportive of the games would now back out but if in worst case scenario SANFL has just one club then I am sure the VFL / WAFL would get the extra sports.

It will be interesting to see how it is structured this year in regards to
- Time Slot
- How the minor league clubs are scheduled given the thumpings they received in 2011.
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