HFL Division 1 (Central)

[countryfootyfan]

Torrens valley has missed out on wade thompson, apparently signed sealed and delivered to CMS crows in the to league..

[emerson]

Hi all ... just doing some research on behalf of a client ...

could you please inbox me with any thoughts on a Shane Lynch? his history? etc etc

cheers

Another early night BB.........

[One Eyed]

Has Mt Lofty got a coach yet ?

[in and under]

Have heard mt lofty have been interviewing a few big names for the coaching role but have been unsuccessful in sealing the deal. Also have heard a few rumours of players leaving both mt lofty and blackwood so with the limited points availanle for both to fill these holes will they be around the mark come september if these rumours are true?

[rock]

Heard today Owen will be challenged for the President's role, does anyone know who the challenger is?

[Afterthesiren]

Heard today Owen will be challenged for the President's role, does anyone know who the challenger is?

Heard it could be some fella with a surname Hughes (not Gary).

[false]

Heard today Owen will be challenged for the President's role, does anyone know who the challenger is?

Heard it could be some fella with a surname Hughes (not Gary).

Dwayne?

[Justquietly]

Have heard mt lofty have been interviewing a few big names for the coaching role but have been unsuccessful in sealing the deal. Also have heard a few rumours of players leaving both mt lofty and blackwood so with the limited points availanle for both to fill these holes will they be around the mark come september if these rumours are true?

Depends who leaves, Lofty had no trouble with points last year. Who are the players leaving?

[Footy Warrior]

Have heard mt lofty have been interviewing a few big names for the coaching role but have been unsuccessful in sealing the deal. Also have heard a few rumours of players leaving both mt lofty and blackwood so with the limited points availanle for both to fill these holes will they be around the mark come september if these rumours are true?

Depends who leaves, Lofty had no trouble with points last year. Who are the players leaving?

I've heard Ben Gordon and Jared McDonald are looking or have found new homes. Anyone know where?

[Armytank]

Okay guys, I heard a "genuine" rumour the other day regarding Torrens Valley. It went something along the lines of TV looking to go back to Country Division OR they are being forced to go back to Country Division.

It may have something to do with the League's rule that all clubs in Central Division must field all five teams every Saturday.

I am happy for this to be quickly shot down by anyone who can give us info on TV and their juniors stocks.

That being said, I know they are not alone if they are struggling to field all of their junior teams, there are some BIG and successful clubs that also struggle some years to fill the full compliment in each of the different age groups. That could read Mt Barker or Uraidla or Hahndorf instead on Torrens Valley next year or in the years to come.

I believe this really is an issue that the league needs to address. Instead of the Owen bashing, whether he is there or not for the next 2 years it is time for the HFL board to grow some balls and take control of the direction of our competition. If Owen is there next year, the board needs to stand up to his wishy washy, non-committal "leadership". If there is someone new, it is an opportunity for the new president to steer the league back to were it should be.

We have a great league, Central is a great competition and half of Country is a pretty good comp too. We have great clubs with great people and great, well respected rivalries throughout the League. The health of our junior competition is pivital to the direction our league will take in the future. With a strong junior comp, the need for highly paid imports to stock up our clubs throughout the league will be reduced, and the rediculous amounts of money being paid to some players will also be lowered.

[Howard]

Okay guys, I heard a "genuine" rumour the other day regarding Torrens Valley. It went something along the lines of TV looking to go back to Country Division OR they are being forced to go back to Country Division.

It may have something to do with the League's rule that all clubs in Central Division must field all five teams every Saturday.

I am happy for this to be quickly shot down by anyone who can give us info on TV and their juniors stocks.

That being said, I know they are not alone if they are struggling to field all of their junior teams, there are some BIG and successful clubs that also struggle some years to fill the full compliment in each of the different age groups. That could read Mt Barker or Uraidla or Hahndorf instead on Torrens Valley next year or in the years to come.

I believe this really is an issue that the league needs to address. Instead of the Owen bashing, whether he is there or not for the next 2 years it is time for the HFL board to grow some balls and take control of the direction of our competition. If Owen is there next year, the board needs to stand up to his wishy washy, non-committal "leadership". If there is someone new, it is an opportunity for the new president to steer the league back to were it should be.

We have a great league, Central is a great competition and half of Country is a pretty good comp too. We have great clubs with great people and great, well respected rivalries throughout the League. The health of our junior competition is pivital to the direction our league will take in the future. With a strong junior comp, the need for highly paid imports to stock up our clubs throughout the league will be reduced, and the rediculous amounts of money being paid to some players will also be lowered.

Not sure what you want the HFL "grow some balls" over - do you want them to drop the rule that requires clubs to have these junior teams if they want to participate in Central?

Junior numbers are directly proportional to the relative populations of the various towns, this is nothing new, so clubs like TV, Kersbrook, Gumeracha etc will always struggle to fill these teams simply because they don't have the numbers within their townships.
Alternatively, the argument that we need not continue with this rule could lead clubs to abandon junior footy all together, it may be seen as a lot easier to fill a couple of senior teams, importing players and thereby alleviating the club of some major headaches.

So as far as Owen and the HFL sorting this out is not as simple as you might think.

[Armytank]

So as far as Owen and the HFL sorting this out is not as simple as you might think.

Exactly why I said they need to "grow some balls". This is definately not a simple problem and some careful planning, direction and some DECISION making is needed, instead of just letting the league carry along on its merry way to the point it is at now.

I am definately not suggesting that the rule be dropped, it is an important part of Central footy from my point of view.

If Ironbank, Torrens Valley of Bridgewater fail to field an under 12s or under 14s side, they will be sent to Country with no questions asked. But what if that is Urailda or Hahndorf?

[Howard]

So as far as Owen and the HFL sorting this out is not as simple as you might think.

Exactly why I said they need to "grow some balls". This is definately not a simple problem and some careful planning, direction and some DECISION making is needed, instead of just letting the league carry along on its merry way to the point it is at now.

I am definately not suggesting that the rule be dropped, it is an important part of Central footy from my point of view.

If Ironbank, Torrens Valley of Bridgewater fail to field an under 12s or under 14s side, they will be sent to Country with no questions asked. But what if that is Urailda or Hahndorf?

Fair enough I do agree the HFL might be more likely to dump the clubs you've mentioned, although the problem won't go away, so you're right the league does need to get on top of this.

I think the whole competition (senior and junior) needs a complete review, maybe from an outside, independent perspective.

[country nomad]

So as far as Owen and the HFL sorting this out is not as simple as you might think.

Exactly why I said they need to "grow some balls". This is definately not a simple problem and some careful planning, direction and some DECISION making is needed, instead of just letting the league carry along on its merry way to the point it is at now.

I am definately not suggesting that the rule be dropped, it is an important part of Central footy from my point of view.

If Ironbank, Torrens Valley of Bridgewater fail to field an under 12s or under 14s side, they will be sent to Country with no questions asked. But what if that is Urailda or Hahndorf?

Fair enough I do agree the HFL might be more likely to dump the clubs you've mentioned, although the problem won't go away, so you're right the league does need to get on top of this.

I think the whole competition (senior and junior) needs a complete review, maybe from an outside, independent perspective.

I have absolutely no affiliation or real interest in the Hills Footy League. However, I have a passion for country footy and so I do look at the Hills with some fascination. As an outsider the issue is not whether a Central club can field four or five teams or who should be relegated/promoted.

For way too long the Country Division has been way too lop-sided and uneven with at least two cubs simply not measuring up. Clearly they can't cope and if they don't make the decision themselves then it should be made for them. For the future of the competition it would seem that the Country Div needs to be evened up and made fully competitive before people start worrying about all this other not so important stuff. Three years of seeing clubs having 50+ goals kicked against them does nothing for anybody. Even the Country Footy web-site didn't acknowledge the competition because two clubs were not competitive. Making a seemingly simple decision about the comp is where the ball-growing needs to take place.

[bailey39]

What happened to that grand plan of Owen's to create a Third Division for next year?

[pig_skin]

Have heard mt lofty have been interviewing a few big names for the coaching role but have been unsuccessful in sealing the deal. Also have heard a few rumours of players leaving both mt lofty and blackwood so with the limited points availanle for both to fill these holes will they be around the mark come september if these rumours are true?

Depends who leaves, Lofty had no trouble with points last year. Who are the players leaving?

I've heard Ben Gordon and Jared McDonald are looking or have found new homes. Anyone know where?

Incorrect mate, Ben gets a few offers every year, none of which have been acted on... Is a great forward so will always attract attention... and Jared was thinking of not playing next year due to concentrating on his cycling. If he does play most likely a local club near him and plays when he is not racing/training...

[Armytank]

For the future of the competition it would seem that the Country Div needs to be evened up and made fully competitive before people start worrying about all this other not so important stuff. Making a seemingly simple decision about the comp is where the ball-growing needs to take place.

To say that junior involvement is not so important is a very narrow minded point of view, it is the future of the league and part of the reason why stronger, bigger clubs are just that. Yes it has to do with population but 5 years ago Ironbank had over 160 kids playing for the club. That is more than the total population of Ironbank. That came from hard work from people within the club.

What is the "seemingly simple decision"? Should the league just not allow Callington and Sedan/Cambrai to compete in the league? That does not seem fair, particularly to Sedan/Cambrai who have entered our league from a lower standard competition but are working hard to put their club were it needs to be to be competitive in Hills Country.

[Footy Warrior]

Have heard mt lofty have been interviewing a few big names for the coaching role but have been unsuccessful in sealing the deal. Also have heard a few rumours of players leaving both mt lofty and blackwood so with the limited points availanle for both to fill these holes will they be around the mark come september if these rumours are true?

Depends who leaves, Lofty had no trouble with points last year. Who are the players leaving?

I've heard Ben Gordon and Jared McDonald are looking or have found new homes. Anyone know where?

Incorrect mate, Ben gets a few offers every year, none of which have been acted on... Is a great forward so will always attract attention... and Jared was thinking of not playing next year due to concentrating on his cycling. If he does play most likely a local club near him and plays when he is not racing/training...

I wouldn't be so sure about this if I was you. What's the wine like in the Barossa these days?

[alcho-pop]

Any truth in this?
Torrens Valley offered a Div 1 SAAFL player $1K per game to jump ship. He is already signed to his amateur club for 2012 and now is being offered by some country clubs the big buck$.
I'm told the answer was' he stays where he is or stands out of footy for 12 months'. Now that is what more clubs should say/do when mercenaries shop themselves around and clubs such as Torrens Valley, who are stuffing up the footy world, offer ridiculous amounts to poach players.

If we're talking about the same person he would be sitting at 9/10 games suspension in SAAFL so all it could take is a red card of some description in rd 1 to be de-registered and off to TV anyway?

[chopper7]

Any truth in this?
Torrens Valley offered a Div 1 SAAFL player $1K per game to jump ship. He is already signed to his amateur club for 2012 and now is being offered by some country clubs the big buck$.
I'm told the answer was' he stays where he is or stands out of footy for 12 months'. Now that is what more clubs should say/do when mercenaries shop themselves around and clubs such as Torrens Valley, who are stuffing up the footy world, offer ridiculous amounts to poach players.

If we're talking about the same person he would be sitting at 9/10 games suspension in SAAFL so all it could take is a red card of some description in rd 1 to be de-registered and off to TV anyway?

Last years div 1 medal winner Alex finkle from gepps cross!