Port Pirie Cricket Asociation

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You are certainly right about one thing AD, you talk shit. If you involved yourself in a more productive way and invested your thoughts and ideas into the politics the ppca might not be in the mess it is.

I'm not sure the PPCA will take the words of a 21 year old uni student too seriously. Do you want me to walk into a league meeting and take charge or something? As a Risdon player/member I discuss my thoughts with our delegate when the time comes, and he sorts it out. I have faith in his judgement on the politics side of things.

I prefer to concentrate on making runs and taking wickets. And if my track record is anything to go by, I need to concentrate a lot bloody harder.

But I digress. What is your contribution to cricket, bigstack? you seem alright to come here and have a go at us for discussing things (on a discussion forum, too. The nerve of us, hey?) but I think you need to put up or shut up.

[Squids]

so anyone from strykers, warnertown or pt germain on here that can share thier points for not wanting to play on port

Exactly!

for a starter i can tell you that our delegate is certain there was five clubs who dont want to play there and i have no reason at all to dought him and if your delegate was any sort of a man i would assume he would tell you the same. i would think wandies and south port would certainly get a fair proportion of the money that is spent at the club during cricket season,i beleive they get pretty well looked after.. I guess thats why they have to play so many games there, so are we all there just to look after their interests? Issue is i guess that all the other clubs in the comp want a little bit of support for playing over there looking after the interest of wandies south port and the club when really we have a council owned ground where we could play every week with no dramas at all and not be held at ransom. if they are that keen to have cricket there why dont they support all the clubs in the comp instead of two?

Why do players buy booze from the Port rooms then. Would it not be that difficult for clubs after a game head to pub, for example you go to the Sporties. You buy your booze there and in return you will receive sponsorship. This does rely on people not needing to drink during a game but that if you are that against it I am sure you can resist the urge of buying a beer. Risdon head to the central hotel a few times a week and are looked after fairly well. Plus there are many business in Port Pirie, could work out a bit of deal....ie. you get sponsorship from the embroidery shop, you get them to make your shirts plus they get a name on your shirt.....you get a deal with Flinders Safety Supplier...you recommended strongly that any safety gear needed by the clubs should be purchased through them. Do Sollies get sponsorship through the football club or is there not much of a connection? What I am saying is clubs should not just be relying on selling booze at port oval to survive. There are millions of fundraising options......car washes, raffles, cocktail nights, sell chocolates, trivia nights, film nights, sausages sizzles...the list goes on.

However I do agree that Port should either...give sponsorship to the clubs or just shout the clubs the ball when playing at the oval. Thuth be told the Port rooms do VERY well without cricket...so they do have enough cash to through around, just look at their footy team....

[bigstack]

You are certainly right about one thing AD, you talk shit. If you involved yourself in a more productive way and invested your thoughts and ideas into the politics the ppca might not be in the mess it is.

I'm not sure the PPCA will take the words of a 21 year old uni student too seriously. Do you want me to walk into a league meeting and take charge or something? As a Risdon player/member I discuss my thoughts with our delegate when the time comes, and he sorts it out. I have faith in his judgement on the politics side of things.

I prefer to concentrate on making runs and taking wickets. And if my track record is anything to go by, I need to concentrate a lot bloody harder.

But I digress. What is your contribution to cricket, bigstack? you seem alright to come here and have a go at us for discussing things (on a discussion forum, too. The nerve of us, hey?) but I think you need to put up or shut up.

I am a modest person who would not want to embarrass you. Pray tell what i need to put up and i'll see if i can help you out.

[letsbehonest]

so anyone from strykers, warnertown or pt germain on here that can share thier points for not wanting to play on port

Exactly!

for a starter i can tell you that our delegate is certain there was five clubs who dont want to play there and i have no reason at all to dought him and if your delegate was any sort of a man i would assume he would tell you the same. i would think wandies and south port would certainly get a fair proportion of the money that is spent at the club during cricket season,i beleive they get pretty well looked after.. I guess thats why they have to play so many games there, so are we all there just to look after their interests? Issue is i guess that all the other clubs in the comp want a little bit of support for playing over there looking after the interest of wandies south port and the club when really we have a council owned ground where we could play every week with no dramas at all and not be held at ransom. if they are that keen to have cricket there why dont they support all the clubs in the comp instead of two?

Why do players buy booze from the Port rooms then. Would it not be that difficult for clubs after a game head to pub, for example you go to the Sporties. You buy your booze there and in return you will receive sponsorship. This does rely on people not needing to drink during a game but that if you are that against it I am sure you can resist the urge of buying a beer. Risdon head to the central hotel a few times a week and are looked after fairly well. Plus there are many business in Port Pirie, could work out a bit of deal....ie. you get sponsorship from the embroidery shop, you get them to make your shirts plus they get a name on your shirt.....you get a deal with Flinders Safety Supplier...you recommended strongly that any safety gear needed by the clubs should be purchased through them. Do Sollies get sponsorship through the football club or is there not much of a connection? What I am saying is clubs should not just be relying on selling booze at port oval to survive. There are millions of fundraising options......car washes, raffles, cocktail nights, sell chocolates, trivia nights, film nights, sausages sizzles...the list goes on.

However I do agree that Port should either...give sponsorship to the clubs or just shout the clubs the ball when playing at the oval. Thuth be told the Port rooms do VERY well without cricket...so they do have enough cash to through around, just look at their footy team....

i agree with you totally that you can raise money in lots of ways,but why should clubs be made to play there if they are losing money? lots of supporters like to go and watch there club and want to buy a beer from there club esky to support them and mind you SOME PLAYERS even enjoy a beer whilst playing on a hot day.we have good sponsorship at the sporties but that has nothing to do with clubs losing money by playing somewhere they dont want to because they are losing money and yes we go to the sporty after our games but when our B grade go and watch our A grade why should they have to go buy alcohol in the clubrooms when they could buy it from our own club?we have no connection to solly footy club.yes i would have thought that the port footy and community club would do anything they could to help out all clubs in the association so they could be assured of having cricket at there lovely oval but obviously they only care about themselves and two clubs. but whatever they were always after everything and now they run the whole show so everyone has to put up with it.

[letsbehonest]

i think our top medal hope is SEWER SEIDEL.

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I am a modest person who would not want to embarrass you. Pray tell what i need to put up and i'll see if i can help you out.

What is your involvement in the PPCA? What club do you have ties to, if any? that will help enough to sort out your agenda here.

I talk shit, as you said. I'll admit that. Most people I play with and against can attest to that. Thats why I love cricket- the banter of it all.

But I'm obviously not a big player at an admin level in this league. That is up to our delegate who I believe is more than capable and has the best interests of the club and competition at heart.

[letsbehonest]

anyway enough of all this stuff, we all have to accept that south port wandies and the port footy and community club are now running the ppca and there is not a thing any of us can do but to sit back and let them do everything and hope that they can limp us through. Im sure the port footy and community club will do very well out of the clubs that have to play there.when we lose clubs the five clubs will be able to say we told you so.

[letsbehonest]

I am a modest person who would not want to embarrass you. Pray tell what i need to put up and i'll see if i can help you out.

What is your involvement in the PPCA? What club do you have ties to, if any? that will help enough to sort out your agenda here.

I talk shit, as you said. I'll admit that. Most people I play with and against can attest to that. Thats why I love cricket- the banter of it all.

But I'm obviously not a big player at an admin level in this league. That is up to our delegate who I believe is more than capable and has the best interests of the club and competition at heart.

who is your delegate?

[Squids]

Lets guess the results of the weekends games, hard without knowing team lineups but whatever.

Champions League

Props v Risdon ----- Risdon, tough game to call but have had the wood on Props lately
Sollies v Port Germein --- Port Germein will improve on last year but Sollies should be too good
Southport v Strykers ---- Southport will be too strong for Strykers
Warnertown v Wandearah --- In Wandearah bring back a few old stalwards they will win.

IPL

Southport v Props --- Going for an upset here with Southport to win, they have the bowling to roll props
Sollies v Risdon --- Risdon here should have their strongest team in the last few years

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For what it’s worth I will have my one and only say on the current situation with the PPCA. (Get comfortable!)

Last year the PPCA wanted to have control to put other games not including SP & Wand to the Port Oval and threatened to pull the pin boycott games etc etc because the clubs thought transferring games wasn’t right and A grade should be played on turf and the PPCA should have control. Now they have negotiated that right the clubs want to penalise Ports for allowing these games to go ahead (eg Risdon v Sollies on Sunday) by charging them for a ball for all teams and are AGAIN threatening to boycott the Port Oval.

It supposed to be about money and meant to sound like Ports give nothing. Ports do sponsor the league with free oval use which costs a lot to maintain plus the work to prepare pitches etc etc that the other clubs have no obligation to do (fair enough). Plus Port provide meals on combined weekend free of charge, no small contribution. Look at the sums- moving the games from Port to Memorial will cost the league money as Memorial charges for each game that is there (say 15 @ $70= $1050). Add to that the league will need to supply meals for combined games (6 teams x 15 people @ a min of $6 each = $540) so the costs would rise upwards of $1500 to the league. That means Assoc fees will rise and guess who pays them- the clubs! $1500/5 A grade teams = $300 each. That doesn’t take into account if there are extra charges for the B grade games (don’t know). If it about money it doesn’t add up.
The B grade didn’t want so many afternoon games in the original draft program but are now happy to walk away from Ports which will mean an extra afternoon game EVERY week, at least 4 more each team. Do you believe that when it comes down to it the bats, sharks and strykers will be keen on that? The B grade teams don’t give a toss, they play there twice a year and it’s their only chance to play on turf. Can’t wait for Huck to go back to tell the bats saying ‘we had a win, we’re not playing our 1 game at Ports and we’ve now got 5 more afternoon games!’

A kind offer from Beaurepaires to pay for the balls this weekend 4x$70 A grade balls and 2x$50 B grade balls is a generous $380 dollars for the opening weekend but I doubt Nyrstar will subsidise clubs for not being able to sell beer- it’s a tough sell.

And how much beer do you think a club could sell from the start of a game to the end whilst the players are playing, 10, maybe 15 tops? They are losing very little unless anyone can offer any proof otherwise, YET TO SEE IT! When the game finishes, you can go where you like and drink as much as your fundraising needs require or even back to your sponsors, no problem. Better still why not do what the Bats do, shut up, piss off over the other side of the oval and discreetly do what you like. These A grade teams were playing 5/6 games at Ports a year and the B’s 1 or 2! Are teams willing to double the amount of Sunday A grade games (or play at Globe), have an extra B grade afternoon game every week, have higher association fees and not play on the best oval in town? For what, someones personal envy?

Heres my take - This was never about money, do the sums & look at the facts, this is obvious! Props and as a follower Sollies come back with their empty bowls begging for a free feed. It’s clear what this is all about and I am genuinely embarrassed for those clubs. Letsbehonest has now finally lifted the veil on what is going on. It’s a privately owned oval that offered to sponsor PPCA a long time ago but they didn’t want it, fine. But now others see what they are missing and the jealousy factor has kicked in and will try one thing after another, last year rights over the oval, this year payment to play there. Lbh your defence of Sollies fc for a Lions man is very unusual to say the least, you defend the bats and props also which is very noble and makes an interesting combination. Can’t do anything about it you say, again rubbish, put your hand up, all you do is potshot those on the league willing to have a go and I’m sure you as a Solly PPCA secretary will be welcomed (yes Rod has quit), but you won’t, guaranteed.

Let’s not forget not that long ago Port Pirie Cricket only had 5 A grade sides, 6 B grade sides and NO junior comp! It now has 5 A teams, 8 B teams and 3 junior GRADES. Yet people want to bitch and moan about Wandies, South Port & Ports causing the loss of clubs and the death of cricket. Please! SouthPort and the Port oval development has been a significant reason for this growth and I challenge anyone to say otherwise. Yes Ports get a spin off from having cricket there, but so does cricket, what a facility, FREE! The PPCA doesn’t need more haters, at least the Risdon boys, whilst having a dig on here, clearly love the game and just want to play, more power to them! It’s just cricket after all.

Food for thought, but that’s all I got. Over & out!!

[letsbehonest]

Lets guess the results of the weekends games, hard without knowing team lineups but whatever.

Champions League

Props v Risdon ----- Risdon, tough game to call but have had the wood on Props lately
Sollies v Port Germein --- Port Germein will improve on last year but Sollies should be too good
Southport v Strykers ---- Southport will be too strong for Strykers
Warnertown v Wandearah --- In Wandearah bring back a few old stalwards they will win.

IPL

Southport v Props --- Going for an upset here with Southport to win, they have the bowling to roll props
Sollies v Risdon --- Risdon here should have their strongest team in the last few years

agree with every tip bar us and germein as we have a lot out this week.
dont think tipping south port is an upset as they would be odds on to win the flag with a district cricketer there and several quality recruits, props normally come good after xmas and i think we will be the same. so its all set up for risdons.

[letsbehonest]

For what it’s worth I will have my one and only say on the current situation with the PPCA. (Get comfortable!)

Last year the PPCA wanted to have control to put other games not including SP & Wand to the Port Oval and threatened to pull the pin boycott games etc etc because the clubs thought transferring games wasn’t right and A grade should be played on turf and the PPCA should have control. Now they have negotiated that right the clubs want to penalise Ports for allowing these games to go ahead (eg Risdon v Sollies on Sunday) by charging them for a ball for all teams and are AGAIN threatening to boycott the Port Oval.

It supposed to be about money and meant to sound like Ports give nothing. Ports do sponsor the league with free oval use which costs a lot to maintain plus the work to prepare pitches etc etc that the other clubs have no obligation to do (fair enough). Plus Port provide meals on combined weekend free of charge, no small contribution. Look at the sums- moving the games from Port to Memorial will cost the league money as Memorial charges for each game that is there (say 15 @ $70= $1050). Add to that the league will need to supply meals for combined games (6 teams x 15 people @ a min of $6 each = $540) so the costs would rise upwards of $1500 to the league. That means Assoc fees will rise and guess who pays them- the clubs! $1500/5 A grade teams = $300 each. That doesn’t take into account if there are extra charges for the B grade games (don’t know). If it about money it doesn’t add up.
The B grade didn’t want so many afternoon games in the original draft program but are now happy to walk away from Ports which will mean an extra afternoon game EVERY week, at least 4 more each team. Do you believe that when it comes down to it the bats, sharks and strykers will be keen on that? The B grade teams don’t give a toss, they play there twice a year and it’s their only chance to play on turf. Can’t wait for Huck to go back to tell the bats saying ‘we had a win, we’re not playing our 1 game at Ports and we’ve now got 5 more afternoon games!’

A kind offer from Beaurepaires to pay for the balls this weekend 4x$70 A grade balls and 2x$50 B grade balls is a generous $380 dollars for the opening weekend but I doubt Nyrstar will subsidise clubs for not being able to sell beer- it’s a tough sell.

And how much beer do you think a club could sell from the start of a game to the end whilst the players are playing, 10, maybe 15 tops? They are losing very little unless anyone can offer any proof otherwise, YET TO SEE IT! When the game finishes, you can go where you like and drink as much as your fundraising needs require or even back to your sponsors, no problem. Better still why not do what the Bats do, shut up, piss off over the other side of the oval and discreetly do what you like. These A grade teams were playing 5/6 games at Ports a year and the B’s 1 or 2! Are teams willing to double the amount of Sunday A grade games (or play at Globe), have an extra B grade afternoon game every week, have higher association fees and not play on the best oval in town? For what, someones personal envy?

Heres my take - This was never about money, do the sums & look at the facts, this is obvious! Props and as a follower Sollies come back with their empty bowls begging for a free feed. It’s clear what this is all about and I am genuinely embarrassed for those clubs. Letsbehonest has now finally lifted the veil on what is going on. It’s a privately owned oval that offered to sponsor PPCA a long time ago but they didn’t want it, fine. But now others see what they are missing and the jealousy factor has kicked in and will try one thing after another, last year rights over the oval, this year payment to play there. Lbh your defence of Sollies fc for a Lions man is very unusual to say the least, you defend the bats and props also which is very noble and makes an interesting combination. Can’t do anything about it you say, again rubbish, put your hand up, all you do is potshot those on the league willing to have a go and I’m sure you as a Solly PPCA secretary will be welcomed (yes Rod has quit), but you won’t, guaranteed.
Defence of sollies fc are you serious? if you look at what i wrote i said we as a cricket club have no ties to the solly football club and i am glad about that. im defending all clubs that are saying they are losing money by playing there. who are we to think they are telling lies? I can assure you i am not our clubs secretary as you have suggested above. There is no agreement with the port footy and community club to play any games there at all so clubs surely have the right to say they dont wish to play there correct? i am hoping that all clubs can play a game of cricket somewhere and not lose money which they ALL are saying they do. Are you calling these clubs liars? so i would say to you why dont you put your hand up and do the sec job and look after all the clubs. end of story ill agree to disagree but it certainly appears to me that you have very strong ties to the FOOTBALL side of things and also one of the cricket clubs at ports so we will obviously never agree and nobody will ever be able to convince anyone that has anything to do with either of the sides at ports. COME ON THE SOLLY CRICKET CLUB!!!!

Let’s not forget not that long ago Port Pirie Cricket only had 5 A grade sides, 6 B grade sides and NO junior comp! It now has 5 A teams, 8 B teams and 3 junior GRADES. Yet people want to bitch and moan about Wandies, South Port & Ports causing the loss of clubs and the death of cricket. Please! SouthPort and the Port oval development has been a significant reason for this growth and I challenge anyone to say otherwise. Yes Ports get a spin off from having cricket there, but so does cricket, what a facility, FREE! The PPCA doesn’t need more haters, at least the Risdon boys, whilst having a dig on here, clearly love the game and just want to play, more power to them! It’s just cricket after all.

Food for thought, but that’s all I got. Over & out!!

wow you seem to know about all clubs finances if you put your address on here all clubs could drop you off some sums of the money they lose. 10 - 15 cans or bottles a game are you serious, you must belong to the tea drinking club!

[letsbehonest]

For what it’s worth I will have my one and only say on the current situation with the PPCA. (Get comfortable!)

Last year the PPCA wanted to have control to put other games not including SP & Wand to the Port Oval and threatened to pull the pin boycott games etc etc because the clubs thought transferring games wasn’t right and A grade should be played on turf and the PPCA should have control. Now they have negotiated that right the clubs want to penalise Ports for allowing these games to go ahead (eg Risdon v Sollies on Sunday) by charging them for a ball for all teams and are AGAIN threatening to boycott the Port Oval.

It supposed to be about money and meant to sound like Ports give nothing. Ports do sponsor the league with free oval use which costs a lot to maintain plus the work to prepare pitches etc etc that the other clubs have no obligation to do (fair enough). Plus Port provide meals on combined weekend free of charge, no small contribution. Look at the sums- moving the games from Port to Memorial will cost the league money as Memorial charges for each game that is there (say 15 @ $70= $1050). Add to that the league will need to supply meals for combined games (6 teams x 15 people @ a min of $6 each = $540) so the costs would rise upwards of $1500 to the league. That means Assoc fees will rise and guess who pays them- the clubs! $1500/5 A grade teams = $300 each. That doesn’t take into account if there are extra charges for the B grade games (don’t know). If it about money it doesn’t add up.
The B grade didn’t want so many afternoon games in the original draft program but are now happy to walk away from Ports which will mean an extra afternoon game EVERY week, at least 4 more each team. Do you believe that when it comes down to it the bats, sharks and strykers will be keen on that? The B grade teams don’t give a toss, they play there twice a year and it’s their only chance to play on turf. Can’t wait for Huck to go back to tell the bats saying ‘we had a win, we’re not playing our 1 game at Ports and we’ve now got 5 more afternoon games!’

A kind offer from Beaurepaires to pay for the balls this weekend 4x$70 A grade balls and 2x$50 B grade balls is a generous $380 dollars for the opening weekend but I doubt Nyrstar will subsidise clubs for not being able to sell beer- it’s a tough sell.

And how much beer do you think a club could sell from the start of a game to the end whilst the players are playing, 10, maybe 15 tops? They are losing very little unless anyone can offer any proof otherwise, YET TO SEE IT! When the game finishes, you can go where you like and drink as much as your fundraising needs require or even back to your sponsors, no problem. Better still why not do what the Bats do, shut up, piss off over the other side of the oval and discreetly do what you like. These A grade teams were playing 5/6 games at Ports a year and the B’s 1 or 2! Are teams willing to double the amount of Sunday A grade games (or play at Globe), have an extra B grade afternoon game every week, have higher association fees and not play on the best oval in town? For what, someones personal envy?

Heres my take - This was never about money, do the sums & look at the facts, this is obvious! Props and as a follower Sollies come back with their empty bowls begging for a free feed. It’s clear what this is all about and I am genuinely embarrassed for those clubs. Letsbehonest has now finally lifted the veil on what is going on. It’s a privately owned oval that offered to sponsor PPCA a long time ago but they didn’t want it, fine. But now others see what they are missing and the jealousy factor has kicked in and will try one thing after another, last year rights over the oval, this year payment to play there. Lbh your defence of Sollies fc for a Lions man is very unusual to say the least, you defend the bats and props also which is very noble and makes an interesting combination. Can’t do anything about it you say, again rubbish, put your hand up, all you do is potshot those on the league willing to have a go and I’m sure you as a Solly PPCA secretary will be welcomed (yes Rod has quit), but you won’t, guaranteed.
Defence of sollies fc are you serious? if you look at what i wrote i said we as a cricket club have no ties to the solly football club and i am glad about that. im defending all clubs that are saying they are losing money by playing there. who are we to think they are telling lies? I can assure you i am not our clubs secretary as you have suggested above. There is no agreement with the port footy and community club to play any games there at all so clubs surely have the right to say they dont wish to play there correct? i am hoping that all clubs can play a game of cricket somewhere and not lose money which they ALL are saying they do. Are you calling these clubs liars? so i would say to you why dont you put your hand up and do the sec job and look after all the clubs. end of story ill agree to disagree but it certainly appears to me that you have very strong ties to the FOOTBALL side of things and also one of the cricket clubs at ports so we will obviously never agree and nobody will ever be able to convince anyone that has anything to do with either of the sides at ports. COME ON THE SOLLY CRICKET CLUB!!!!

Let’s not forget not that long ago Port Pirie Cricket only had 5 A grade sides, 6 B grade sides and NO junior comp! It now has 5 A teams, 8 B teams and 3 junior GRADES. Yet people want to bitch and moan about Wandies, South Port & Ports causing the loss of clubs and the death of cricket. Please! SouthPort and the Port oval development has been a significant reason for this growth and I challenge anyone to say otherwise. Yes Ports get a spin off from having cricket there, but so does cricket, what a facility, FREE! The PPCA doesn’t need more haters, at least the Risdon boys, whilst having a dig on here, clearly love the game and just want to play, more power to them! It’s just cricket after all.

Food for thought, but that’s all I got. Over & out!!

wow you seem to know about all clubs finances if you put your address on here all clubs could drop you off some sums of the money they lose. 10 - 15 cans or bottles a game are you serious, you must belong to the tea drinking club!

some of my reply matt oh sorry mate is in between your spin, sorry but i just put down 15 tins by MYSELF!

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anyway enough of all this stuff, we all have to accept that south port wandies and the port footy and community club are now running the ppca and there is not a thing any of us can do but to sit back and let them do everything and hope that they can limp us through. Im sure the port footy and community club will do very well out of the clubs that have to play there.when we lose clubs the five clubs will be able to say we told you so.

I'm sure strykers, warnertown,and pt germain will be able to kick on without the cash from not being able to sell piss at the port games.why would they care if 2 a grade teams pull out? Why would 2 a grade clubs care about the double up rule? Is there some secret alliance/secret meetings going on?

[whichgrade]

I can't understand what you are saying, all I know is Risdon clearly stated at the beginning of last season that we would struggle for players and for us to be double up. This was all fine until Lenny Starke had a cry at a meeting and got our points taken away. From then on no one at Risdon really knew the rule, no one did. Enough about that I have a premiership medal and am very confident in getting a second this year.

I believe it was only props. I believe here it is PROPS sooking, find new ways to make cash and get on with it.

whatever you risdon clown, you wont win anything. All i know is we have enough money with our main man martlew sponsoring us at the sporty tavern so maybe your club will support us and come drink at our sponsors pub? I was told there was five clubs that were prepared not to play at ports? FIVE CLUBS OUT OF EIGHT and i honestly beleive that they want to get everything sorted so they can get on with playing cricket. So stop blaming us and props i would say.
Not hard to understand the rules as they are all there in black and white for everyone to read or cant you read?
END of story i am sick of trying to explain everything to you as you are obviously lacking a little bit of nous.

so with 'enough money' from your main sponsor why are you claiming that the loss of revenue will kill your club? to my knowledge you could still sell soft drinks and eats there,the sign on the gate only says no byo alcohol, surely the pleasure of playing on a magnificent oval is enough to give up the piss for 6 hrs!!!

i think props are actually in financial trouble and they have just convinced a few clubs to back them up!!!

also i think you dont want to play at port because of the bad memories of that guy who tore through your batting line up last year in the A's there against risdons

[whichgrade]

whatever you risdon clown, you wont win anything. All i know is we have enough money with our main man martlew sponsoring us at the sporty tavern so maybe your club will support us and come drink at our sponsors pub?

We'll be right up there again mate, don't you worry.

Why would we drink at your pub when we have "central hotel" emblazoned across the back of our shirts?

gonna have to pull you up there AD, we actually still have 'risdon hotel' emblazoned on our shirts, that will be amended in the coming months though

[whichgrade]

Still ongoing i think, no one knows what is going on. We were all warned this would happen years ago, looks like they were right. Any truth in the report the secretary resigned his position? Who is doing the job now?

not sure bigstack i never bothered to ask our delegate that. Maybe squids or AD might be able to give us an answer as he knows everything that went on at the meeting. If it is true i would probably guess they would try and get a wandies official or a south port one that will do as he is told.

actually cant anyone apply for the secretarys job, surely someone from 1 of the 5 clubs that are scared of ports taking over would apply for it!!!

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Defence of sollies fc are you serious? if you look at what i wrote i said we as a cricket club have no ties to the solly football club and i am glad about that. im defending all clubs that are saying they are losing money by playing there. who are we to think they are telling lies? I can assure you i am not our clubs secretary as you have suggested above. There is no agreement with the port footy and community club to play any games there at all so clubs surely have the right to say they dont wish to play there correct? i am hoping that all clubs can play a game of cricket somewhere and not lose money which they ALL are saying they do. Are you calling these clubs liars? so i would say to you why dont you put your hand up and do the sec job and look after all the clubs. end of story ill agree to disagree but it certainly appears to me that you have very strong ties to the FOOTBALL side of things and also one of the cricket clubs at ports so we will obviously never agree and nobody will ever be able to convince anyone that has anything to do with either of the sides at ports. COME ON THE SOLLY CRICKET CLUB!!!!

good to see you are standing up for the little guys, imagine how much money pt germain will lose on the 2 morning games at port

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For what it’s worth I will have my one and only say on the current situation with the PPCA. (Get comfortable!)

Last year the PPCA wanted to have control to put other games not including SP & Wand to the Port Oval and threatened to pull the pin boycott games etc etc because the clubs thought transferring games wasn’t right and A grade should be played on turf and the PPCA should have control. Now they have negotiated that right the clubs want to penalise Ports for allowing these games to go ahead (eg Risdon v Sollies on Sunday) by charging them for a ball for all teams and are AGAIN threatening to boycott the Port Oval.

It supposed to be about money and meant to sound like Ports give nothing. Ports do sponsor the league with free oval use which costs a lot to maintain plus the work to prepare pitches etc etc that the other clubs have no obligation to do (fair enough). Plus Port provide meals on combined weekend free of charge, no small contribution. Look at the sums- moving the games from Port to Memorial will cost the league money as Memorial charges for each game that is there (say 15 @ $70= $1050). Add to that the league will need to supply meals for combined games (6 teams x 15 people @ a min of $6 each = $540) so the costs would rise upwards of $1500 to the league. That means Assoc fees will rise and guess who pays them- the clubs! $1500/5 A grade teams = $300 each. That doesn’t take into account if there are extra charges for the B grade games (don’t know). If it about money it doesn’t add up.
The B grade didn’t want so many afternoon games in the original draft program but are now happy to walk away from Ports which will mean an extra afternoon game EVERY week, at least 4 more each team. Do you believe that when it comes down to it the bats, sharks and strykers will be keen on that? The B grade teams don’t give a toss, they play there twice a year and it’s their only chance to play on turf. Can’t wait for Huck to go back to tell the bats saying ‘we had a win, we’re not playing our 1 game at Ports and we’ve now got 5 more afternoon games!’

A kind offer from Beaurepaires to pay for the balls this weekend 4x$70 A grade balls and 2x$50 B grade balls is a generous $380 dollars for the opening weekend but I doubt Nyrstar will subsidise clubs for not being able to sell beer- it’s a tough sell.

And how much beer do you think a club could sell from the start of a game to the end whilst the players are playing, 10, maybe 15 tops? They are losing very little unless anyone can offer any proof otherwise, YET TO SEE IT! When the game finishes, you can go where you like and drink as much as your fundraising needs require or even back to your sponsors, no problem. Better still why not do what the Bats do, shut up, piss off over the other side of the oval and discreetly do what you like. These A grade teams were playing 5/6 games at Ports a year and the B’s 1 or 2! Are teams willing to double the amount of Sunday A grade games (or play at Globe), have an extra B grade afternoon game every week, have higher association fees and not play on the best oval in town? For what, someones personal envy?

Heres my take - This was never about money, do the sums & look at the facts, this is obvious! Props and as a follower Sollies come back with their empty bowls begging for a free feed. It’s clear what this is all about and I am genuinely embarrassed for those clubs. Letsbehonest has now finally lifted the veil on what is going on. It’s a privately owned oval that offered to sponsor PPCA a long time ago but they didn’t want it, fine. But now others see what they are missing and the jealousy factor has kicked in and will try one thing after another, last year rights over the oval, this year payment to play there. Lbh your defence of Sollies fc for a Lions man is very unusual to say the least, you defend the bats and props also which is very noble and makes an interesting combination. Can’t do anything about it you say, again rubbish, put your hand up, all you do is potshot those on the league willing to have a go and I’m sure you as a Solly PPCA secretary will be welcomed (yes Rod has quit), but you won’t, guaranteed.

Let’s not forget not that long ago Port Pirie Cricket only had 5 A grade sides, 6 B grade sides and NO junior comp! It now has 5 A teams, 8 B teams and 3 junior GRADES. Yet people want to bitch and moan about Wandies, South Port & Ports causing the loss of clubs and the death of cricket. Please! SouthPort and the Port oval development has been a significant reason for this growth and I challenge anyone to say otherwise. Yes Ports get a spin off from having cricket there, but so does cricket, what a facility, FREE! The PPCA doesn’t need more haters, at least the Risdon boys, whilst having a dig on here, clearly love the game and just want to play, more power to them! It’s just cricket after all.

Food for thought, but that’s all I got. Over & out!!

Interesting contibution by Student, it is great piries education system provides for aged students. The contributor has to be aged because his knowledge of the facts is amazing or maybe dad helped. If he plays cricket lets hope he makes a century on the weekend or at least 21. There would be people around who would dispute some of the points put forward by Student. Are there any old timers out there who can tell us how combined lunches were provided before port started putting them on? Can they also tell us how pirie cricket got by when there were seven a grade teams and seven b grade teams as there were at times years ago. Read it in an old cricket book recently.

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For what it’s worth I will have my one and only say on the current situation with the PPCA. (Get comfortable!)

Last year the PPCA wanted to have control to put other games not including SP & Wand to the Port Oval and threatened to pull the pin boycott games etc etc because the clubs thought transferring games wasn’t right and A grade should be played on turf and the PPCA should have control. Now they have negotiated that right the clubs want to penalise Ports for allowing these games to go ahead (eg Risdon v Sollies on Sunday) by charging them for a ball for all teams and are AGAIN threatening to boycott the Port Oval.

It supposed to be about money and meant to sound like Ports give nothing. Ports do sponsor the league with free oval use which costs a lot to maintain plus the work to prepare pitches etc etc that the other clubs have no obligation to do (fair enough). Plus Port provide meals on combined weekend free of charge, no small contribution. Look at the sums- moving the games from Port to Memorial will cost the league money as Memorial charges for each game that is there (say 15 @ $70= $1050). Add to that the league will need to supply meals for combined games (6 teams x 15 people @ a min of $6 each = $540) so the costs would rise upwards of $1500 to the league. That means Assoc fees will rise and guess who pays them- the clubs! $1500/5 A grade teams = $300 each. That doesn’t take into account if there are extra charges for the B grade games (don’t know). If it about money it doesn’t add up.
The B grade didn’t want so many afternoon games in the original draft program but are now happy to walk away from Ports which will mean an extra afternoon game EVERY week, at least 4 more each team. Do you believe that when it comes down to it the bats, sharks and strykers will be keen on that? The B grade teams don’t give a toss, they play there twice a year and it’s their only chance to play on turf. Can’t wait for Huck to go back to tell the bats saying ‘we had a win, we’re not playing our 1 game at Ports and we’ve now got 5 more afternoon games!’

A kind offer from Beaurepaires to pay for the balls this weekend 4x$70 A grade balls and 2x$50 B grade balls is a generous $380 dollars for the opening weekend but I doubt Nyrstar will subsidise clubs for not being able to sell beer- it’s a tough sell.

And how much beer do you think a club could sell from the start of a game to the end whilst the players are playing, 10, maybe 15 tops? They are losing very little unless anyone can offer any proof otherwise, YET TO SEE IT! When the game finishes, you can go where you like and drink as much as your fundraising needs require or even back to your sponsors, no problem. Better still why not do what the Bats do, shut up, piss off over the other side of the oval and discreetly do what you like. These A grade teams were playing 5/6 games at Ports a year and the B’s 1 or 2! Are teams willing to double the amount of Sunday A grade games (or play at Globe), have an extra B grade afternoon game every week, have higher association fees and not play on the best oval in town? For what, someones personal envy?

Heres my take - This was never about money, do the sums & look at the facts, this is obvious! Props and as a follower Sollies come back with their empty bowls begging for a free feed. It’s clear what this is all about and I am genuinely embarrassed for those clubs. Letsbehonest has now finally lifted the veil on what is going on. It’s a privately owned oval that offered to sponsor PPCA a long time ago but they didn’t want it, fine. But now others see what they are missing and the jealousy factor has kicked in and will try one thing after another, last year rights over the oval, this year payment to play there. Lbh your defence of Sollies fc for a Lions man is very unusual to say the least, you defend the bats and props also which is very noble and makes an interesting combination. Can’t do anything about it you say, again rubbish, put your hand up, all you do is potshot those on the league willing to have a go and I’m sure you as a Solly PPCA secretary will be welcomed (yes Rod has quit), but you won’t, guaranteed.

Let’s not forget not that long ago Port Pirie Cricket only had 5 A grade sides, 6 B grade sides and NO junior comp! It now has 5 A teams, 8 B teams and 3 junior GRADES. Yet people want to bitch and moan about Wandies, South Port & Ports causing the loss of clubs and the death of cricket. Please! SouthPort and the Port oval development has been a significant reason for this growth and I challenge anyone to say otherwise. Yes Ports get a spin off from having cricket there, but so does cricket, what a facility, FREE! The PPCA doesn’t need more haters, at least the Risdon boys, whilst having a dig on here, clearly love the game and just want to play, more power to them! It’s just cricket after all.

Food for thought, but that’s all I got. Over & out!!

Interesting contibution by Student, it is great piries education system provides for aged students. The contributor has to be aged because his knowledge of the facts is amazing or maybe dad helped. If he plays cricket lets hope he makes a century on the weekend or at least 21. There would be people around who would dispute some of the points put forward by Student. Are there any old timers out there who can tell us how combined lunches were provided before port started putting them on? Can they also tell us how pirie cricket got by when there were seven a grade teams and seven b grade teams as there were at times years ago. Read it in an old cricket book recently.