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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby the ram » Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:03 pm

Pommy Git wrote:
the ram wrote:Steve Hill gone thats the best thing that could have happened to Mclaren Vale for a long time!!!


You obviously have nothing to do with McLaren.


why is that the Willunga North have done nothing under him, apart from go backwards, even with recruiting his recruiting this year.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby hamish » Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:24 pm

Goolwa 5 coaches in 10 years ,is it the coaches who get it wrong or the commitee another year wasted,.......culture problem maybe? :oops:
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby neverwas neverwillbe » Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:29 pm

the ram wrote:
Pommy Git wrote:
the ram wrote:Steve Hill gone thats the best thing that could have happened to Mclaren Vale for a long time!!!


You obviously have nothing to do with McLaren.


why is that the Willunga North have done nothing under him, apart from go backwards, even with recruiting his recruiting this year.


Maybe it's because Aldinga East keep poaching their good juniors.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby That Old Chestnut » Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:25 pm

hamish wrote:Goolwa 5 coaches in 10 years ,is it the coaches who get it wrong or the commitee another year wasted,.......culture problem maybe? :oops:


I don't see this as a culture problem. Victor has had the same amount of coaches in that time period and I would say the culture there is very good. Plenty of juniors, the club going very well off the field and recruited players hanging around for 2, 3, 4 and more years. I think it is a combination of coaches not being willing to sacrifice more than a couple years of their time, even country football takes a bit of effort these days and also players being a bit too precious and having a lot to say over who coaches them.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby LuvsFooty » Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:35 pm

That Old Chestnut wrote:
hamish wrote:Goolwa 5 coaches in 10 years ,is it the coaches who get it wrong or the commitee another year wasted,.......culture problem maybe? :oops:


I don't see this as a culture problem. Victor has had the same amount of coaches in that time period and I would say the culture there is very good. Plenty of juniors, the club going very well off the field and recruited players hanging around for 2, 3, 4 and more years. I think it is a combination of coaches not being willing to sacrifice more than a couple years of their time, even country football takes a bit of effort these days and also players being a bit too precious and having a lot to say over who coaches them.


It is a big turnover of coaches and ultimately I would like to see us settle in to a long term coach but we havent found the right mix as of yet. Everyone would love a Pilmore but they arent growing on trees. I think with the nature of life these days (just look at employment trends) long term committments in country footy will probably follow suit and there will be more chopping and changing

I think the last few years we have slowly made some good culture changes and although we are on the lookout for a senior coach there is plenty of upside. We will finish the season with only Willunga, Strathalbyn and VH having won more games than us and are likely to have 3 teams in the finals (only Willunga will have more)
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby field of dreams » Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:48 pm

Yes we'd all love a Pilmore and the stability that provides, but that sort of scenario is pretty rare nowadays. I dont see a change of coach every 2 years as huge issue though - sure the right coach is important but there are plenty of other factors in having a successful team/club as well. Victor had 5 in 10 yrs in the 90s and it didnt stop them being successful.

As for Goolwa, they have come off a pretty low base and while the number of wins might indicate they havent improved, most would say the opposite is true. Performances in the second half of the year have been affected by missing players and the season being over for them, but they put up far better opposition than in 2010. With the points system, the question is can they hold the core of the recruits and build further?
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby south » Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:03 pm

if you look at the ladder it again shows that the points system doesnt work and is a waste of time. It doesnt allow for the weak teams to improve but the strong teams get stronger. the only thing it has done is sent quality players away from our league because clubs cant fit them under there points allocation. even when these players don't want to be paid they just want to play A grade footy and clubs can't signed them. SCRAP THE POINTS SYSTEM! ITS A UNFAIR JOKE!!
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby the ram » Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:43 pm

neverwas neverwillbe wrote:
the ram wrote:
Pommy Git wrote:
the ram wrote:Steve Hill gone thats the best thing that could have happened to Mclaren Vale for a long time!!!


You obviously have nothing to do with McLaren.


why is that the Willunga North have done nothing under him, apart from go backwards, even with recruiting his recruiting this year.


Maybe it's because Aldinga East keep poaching their good juniors.


Maybe a good coach could stop the poaching from willunga north to aldinga east.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby Animus » Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:02 pm

why is that the Willunga North have done nothing under him, apart from go backwards, even with recruiting his recruiting this year.[/quote]

Maybe it's because Aldinga East keep poaching their good juniors.[/quote]

Maybe a good coach could stop the poaching from willunga north to aldinga east.[/quote]


What juniors have gone from Willunga North to Willunga?
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby A Mum » Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:42 pm

Animus wrote: What juniors have gone from Willunga North to Willunga?


There is a list of them - but for various reasons I would pressume and not just 'poaching'

A few I can think of off the top of my head that have left McLaren to Willunga.

Stevie Jaggard
Chris Balas
Mark Balas
Lloyd Coulson
Zac Baggs
Daniel McNicol

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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby Vulcan » Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:59 pm

Perhaps a better option for mclaren would be to return to the sfl.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby kickittome » Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:26 pm

south wrote:if you look at the ladder it again shows that the points system doesnt work and is a waste of time. It doesnt allow for the weak teams to improve but the strong teams get stronger. the only thing it has done is sent quality players away from our league because clubs cant fit them under there points allocation. even when these players don't want to be paid they just want to play A grade footy and clubs can't signed them. SCRAP THE POINTS SYSTEM! ITS A UNFAIR JOKE!!


The point system has evened the gsfl up this year for sure, the point system will always be argued about. Probably doesn't seem to be working at the moment when lots of teams are not in the chase for a top 5 spot and don't have too much to play for. There have been a number of upsets this year that we definately haven't seen for a long time e.g enc bay beating willunga and strath losing to myponga. I would hate to know how many more recruits the creek$ would get without a points system.

Talking about the creek they are hot favourites for the flag! Haven't seen any cracks appearing close to finals time like previous years. Hopefully another 2007 upset result happens this year again, would be great to see there supporters turn on them again in a home gf.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby kickittome » Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:36 pm

Vulcan wrote:Perhaps a better option for mclaren would be to return to the sfl.


:ymapplause: Is it easier to win b grade premierships in the sfl? If so you would think mclaren would be there with bells on. Seems to be all they play for these days, hey rooblood?

Couple of big games in other grades besides the a grade.
B grade Goolwa need to beat compass and strath beat myponga for goolwa to go 3rd spot and get crucial double chance. (Will try our best for you LF) It would be over 15 years since strath reserves missed out on finals action gonna be weird watching.
Yank beat creek and goolwa beat compass, yank will make finals.

Senior Colts 3 teams (Comp,Strath and creek chasing last two spots in the 5 could be decided by percentage.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby BAYSRULE » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:50 pm

kickittome wrote:
south wrote:if you look at the ladder it again shows that the points system doesnt work and is a waste of time. It doesnt allow for the weak teams to improve but the strong teams get stronger. the only thing it has done is sent quality players away from our league because clubs cant fit them under there points allocation. even when these players don't want to be paid they just want to play A grade footy and clubs can't signed them. SCRAP THE POINTS SYSTEM! ITS A UNFAIR JOKE!!


The point system has evened the gsfl up this year for sure, the point system will always be argued about. Probably doesn't seem to be working at the moment when lots of teams are not in the chase for a top 5 spot and don't have too much to play for. There have been a number of upsets this year that we definately haven't seen for a long time e.g enc bay beating willunga and strath losing to myponga. I would hate to know how many more recruits the creek$ would get without a points system.

Talking about the creek they are hot favourites for the flag! Haven't seen any cracks appearing close to finals time like previous years. Hopefully another 2007 upset result happens this year again, would be great to see there supporters turn on them again in a home gf.



Funny you bring up the points and the EBay beating of Willunga... You may ask how many points EBAy played with that day.. 6 points to a FULLY LOADED Willunga.... MMMM.. And yes I agree how many bloody players would $$ bags Creek have if NO points system.. It works.. it just needs to be refined...
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby BAYSRULE » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:52 pm

BAYSRULE wrote:
kickittome wrote:
south wrote:if you look at the ladder it again shows that the points system doesnt work and is a waste of time. It doesnt allow for the weak teams to improve but the strong teams get stronger. the only thing it has done is sent quality players away from our league because clubs cant fit them under there points allocation. even when these players don't want to be paid they just want to play A grade footy and clubs can't signed them. SCRAP THE POINTS SYSTEM! ITS A UNFAIR JOKE!!


The point system has evened the gsfl up this year for sure, the point system will always be argued about. Probably doesn't seem to be working at the moment when lots of teams are not in the chase for a top 5 spot and don't have too much to play for. There have been a number of upsets this year that we definately haven't seen for a long time e.g enc bay beating willunga and strath losing to myponga. I would hate to know how many more recruits the creek$ would get without a points system.

Talking about the creek they are hot favourites for the flag! Haven't seen any cracks appearing close to finals time like previous years. Hopefully another 2007 upset result happens this year again, would be great to see there supporters turn on them again in a home gf.



Funny you bring up the points and the EBay beating of Willunga... You may ask how many points EBAy played with that day.. 6 points to a FULLY LOADED Willunga.... MMMM.. And yes I agree how many bloody players would $$ bags Creek have if NO points system.. It works.. it just needs to be refined...


Oh I dont think it has sent players away due to the Clubs not fitting them in.. Its just they get the $$ in other associations and has no reflection on the points... Perhaps there needs to be a points system AND back to the good old days with a salary cap.. But hey that didnt work caus there is too many dishonest ppl...
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby field of dreams » Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:07 pm

kickittome wrote:Senior Colts 3 teams (Comp,Strath and creek chasing last two spots in the 5 could be decided by percentage.


Very interesting scenario - quite likely that 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th will end up on 11 wins.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby jackpot jim » Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:09 pm

BAYSRULE wrote:
kickittome wrote:
south wrote:if you look at the ladder it again shows that the points system doesnt work and is a waste of time. It doesnt allow for the weak teams to improve but the strong teams get stronger. the only thing it has done is sent quality players away from our league because clubs cant fit them under there points allocation. even when these players don't want to be paid they just want to play A grade footy and clubs can't signed them. SCRAP THE POINTS SYSTEM! ITS A UNFAIR JOKE!!


The point system has evened the gsfl up this year for sure, the point system will always be argued about. Probably doesn't seem to be working at the moment when lots of teams are not in the chase for a top 5 spot and don't have too much to play for. There have been a number of upsets this year that we definately haven't seen for a long time e.g enc bay beating willunga and strath losing to myponga. I would hate to know how many more recruits the creek$ would get without a points system.

Talking about the creek they are hot favourites for the flag! Haven't seen any cracks appearing close to finals time like previous years. Hopefully another 2007 upset result happens this year again, would be great to see there supporters turn on them again in a home gf.



Funny you bring up the points and the EBay beating of Willunga... You may ask how many points EBAy played with that day.. 6 points to a FULLY LOADED Willunga.... MMMM.. And yes I agree how many bloody players would $$ bags Creek have if NO points system.. It works.. it just needs to be refined...


kickittome & BAYSRULE.

Would either of you two like to quote some of the figures the Creek players are getting paid ?
Do either of you two actually know ?
Think it may be the case of ASSUMING the Creeks are paying big $$$$ bcos they have managed to recruit some quality players to the club.
I think your assumptions and the FACTS may be as far apart as the middle of the fairway and where my tee shot ends up on the golf course. ;)
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby Red is Best! » Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:17 pm

McLaren Vale to have a Win, I think Encounter Bay have started Cricket training already so the Web-site says:-

Sad Sunday this Sunday, dress up in whatever u want for free piss and food, starts 10/10.30am at royal family with a massive cook up by Cam Hallet + a keg or two. The Grosvenor to follow. This will be the biggest game we play this year haha! (Players, coaches, trainers)

(All Welcome) - See the Goolwa, Compass, McLaren & Pongie Boys there!
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby jackpot jim » Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:19 pm

field of dreams wrote:
kickittome wrote:Senior Colts 3 teams (Comp,Strath and creek chasing last two spots in the 5 could be decided by percentage.


Very interesting scenario - quite likely that 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th will end up on 11 wins.


Continues the trend of recent years where the top 6 -7 teams have been very even.
Think that the Creeks may miss out narrowly on % which would be surprising considering they are the 3rd highest scoring team and 1 of only 2 teams to have beaten the top side Goolwa/Pt Elliot.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby Red is Best! » Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:27 pm

BAYSRULE wrote:
kickittome wrote:
south wrote:if you look at the ladder it again shows that the points system doesnt work and is a waste of time. It doesnt allow for the weak teams to improve but the strong teams get stronger. the only thing it has done is sent quality players away from our league because clubs cant fit them under there points allocation. even when these players don't want to be paid they just want to play A grade footy and clubs can't signed them. SCRAP THE POINTS SYSTEM! ITS A UNFAIR JOKE!!


The point system has evened the gsfl up this year for sure, the point system will always be argued about. Probably doesn't seem to be working at the moment when lots of teams are not in the chase for a top 5 spot and don't have too much to play for. There have been a number of upsets this year that we definately haven't seen for a long time e.g enc bay beating willunga and strath losing to myponga. I would hate to know how many more recruits the creek$ would get without a points system.

Talking about the creek they are hot favourites for the flag! Haven't seen any cracks appearing close to finals time like previous years. Hopefully another 2007 upset result happens this year again, would be great to see there supporters turn on them again in a home gf.


Point system works - Its just SH.THOUSE footy departments with the wrong people doing the recruiting!
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