Federal Government proposes a price on carbon.

[straight talker]

maybe we should of got this in writing!!

http://www.comeonaustralia.com/no-carbo ... video.html

[redandblack]

ok swan didnt tell a couple of porky pies then?? here is one article where swan said jobs are safe now it shouldt take long to find them both together! http://kenodowd.com.au/LatestNews/Media ... ODowd.aspx

Statement by a Liberal Member of Parliament on his own website that has no proof and is just a claim to be able to read the future.

Why are you looking at a Liberal Party Member's website, let alone quoting it as 'eveidence'?????

[redandblack]

yes 6000 jobs at peak construction IF it goes ahead! i can also post comments by industries that are saying the carbon tax could cost 20.000 jobs!

st, I've got a quiz for you.

Question 1: Spot the difference between a company announcing thousands of new jobs and an anti-carbon tax spokesman predicting jobs will be lost.

Question 2 will follow, as Question 1 is really difficult.

PS: Still waiting for your reference to the PM saying 'No jobs will be lost"

[redandblack]

Mr Abbott even further out of step.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-07-31/c ... ax/2817716

[straight talker]

i believe i have posted several articles where she has talked about no job losses! trying to find the actual video i was talking about but she does state in sveral articles i have posted about no job losses!

[straight talker]

ok so the british prime minister says gillard is good!? AND??

[straight talker]

another pearler from an honest government ! http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nationa ... 6103759625

[redandblack]

i believe i have posted several articles where she has talked about no job losses! trying to find the actual video i was talking about but she does state in sveral articles i have posted about no job losses!

No you haven't mate.

We're still waiting, because she didn't say it.

[redandblack]

ok so the british prime minister says gillard is good!? AND??

No st, Abbott says the rest of the world aren't doing anything and this is all Greens inspired.

Here is a Conservative Prime Minister saying it's the right thing to do and Gillard is doing a brave and correct thing.

You perhaps don't realise the significance of this. It undermines a large part of Abbott's argument.

[fish]

ok so the british prime minister says gillard is good!? AND??

The British PM's comments certainly make a change from all the doom and gloom predictions you're posting on this forum.

And speaking of doom and gloom - I'm still waiting for some substantiation of your comment that the Greens "would have us all live like gypsys". Exactly which Greens policy will turn me into a gypsy?

[fish]

ok swan didnt tell a couple of porky pies then?? here is one article where swan said jobs are safe ... http://kenodowd.com.au/LatestNews/Media ... ODowd.aspx

As far as I can see this article is all Mr. O'Dowds words - not Mr. Swans.

Oh and by the way the last I heard Mr. O'Dowd has 10,000 shares in East Energy Resources, a coal exploration and development company.

[straight talker]

are you for real?? if gillard and swan dont say jobs are safe in some of the articles ive posted i must go get my eyes checked!!Oh and while your on about shares do you know if Gore,Garnaut and Flannery have any shares in any geothermal companies or anything similar??? Or you dont bother to research them?? How about flannery telling us quote:imagine an 8 story building well soon water will be lapping at the top!!?? Did you know he owns a water front home with water 5mtrs away from where he sits and has breakfast every morning? bit strange dont you think?

[redandblack]

So how can gillard and swan tell us there will be no job losses here in Australia?

I might have missed it but I can't recall them having said this st.

Can you please provide a link or transcript where Gillard and/or Swan told us there would be no job losses as a result of the carbon tax.

st, you can bluster all you like and you can talk about jobs being safe all you like, but we're waiting for your proof that Julia Gillard and Wane Swann said NO jobs would be lost.

[Q.]

st, you're right, Flannery has definitely shown himself to be self-interested. Has done very well for himself by selling his ideas and himself. However, let's not forget that he he isn't a climate scientist and does not undertake climate science research.

You can easily argue that the likes of Flannery, Gore etc, have been opportunistic, but you can't argue against the mountain of scientific evidence produced by faceless climate scientists.

[straight talker]

yes ok, but how is what gillard wants the country to undertake when countries like china are building 30 coal fired power stations a week going to help.? http://www.climatechangedenier.com.au/c ... arbon-tax/

[redandblack]

Oh please, st, the climate change deniers web site.

[straight talker]

ok so i guess china are not building 30 coal fired power stations a week? do you get your info from the believer sites??

[straight talker]

still waiting to hear if flannery,gore,garnaut etc: are mixed up in companies that will benefit out of this carbon tax/climate change business??

[straight talker]

http://www.freestatevoice.com.au/politi ... -pollution

[Q.]

lol, you're really scraping the barrel now