Federal Government proposes a price on carbon.

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Re: Federal Government proposes a price on carbon.

Postby redandblack » Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:57 pm

Can you show me where it said about tears, mate?

It was a long article about the issues, but I'm interested in where it says she cried?
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Re: Federal Government proposes a price on carbon.

Postby Sky Pilot » Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:39 pm

this just came to me from a colleague (not a Murdoch press employee) who was in the NPC when Jules made her pitch. This is a private email to me from someone I know well and trust. I asked for her thoughts and here's what she said:
An extraordinary last bid by Julia Gillard to present a “real Julia” who can be trusted.

In her National Press Club speech, Gillard says she’s made the mistake of letting her decisions speak for themselves and, being a shy and reserved person determined to make decisions, had won a reputation for being “steely”.

She then teared up - almost on cue at the bits I’ve put in bold:

Australians do want to know more about me and how I’ll lead this government in coming years.

Especially when confronted with new challenges in the future, and that means they do want to know what kind of person I am. And look, I’m a decision-maker by nature and I have tended to let the decisions speak for themselves.

It doesn’t come easy to me to expose my feelings as I make these decisions. I was the shy girl who studied and worked hard, and it took time and effort but I got from Unley High to the law and as far as here, where I am today. I’ve brought a sense of personal reserve to this, the most public of professions. And the rigours of politics have reinforced my innate style of holding a fair bit back in order to hang pretty tough.

If that means people’s image of me is one of steely determination, I understand why.

But I don’t forget where I come from, why I’m here, or what I’ve learned along the way. I don’t forget Unley High, where I saw kids who sat at the back of the room and did “make work” and were left behind. I don’t forget how I felt at Slaters when I won my first case on behalf of an outworker, I got her paid what she deserved, and she just said, quietly, “thanks”.

Then she reverted back to her normal style of speech.

I found it excruciating. And desperate.

I do feel sorry for Gillard, but I do not think her pitch, which sounded so manufactured, will convince voters who are asked to believe that this Prime Minister is actually shy and teary.
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Re: Federal Government proposes a price on carbon.

Postby redandblack » Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:52 pm

SP, thanks for sharing that, but it's so obviously from someone who is anti-Gillard that it is worthless.

Let me guess.

A Liberal member or staffer?

Definitely a Liberal sympathiser.
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Re: Federal Government proposes a price on carbon.

Postby Sky Pilot » Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:58 pm

redandblack wrote:SP, thanks for sharing that, but it's so obviously from someone who is anti-Gillard that it is worthless.

Let me guess.

A Liberal member or staffer?

Definitely a Liberal sympathiser.

a cocktail waitress perhaps?
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Re: Federal Government proposes a price on carbon.

Postby redandblack » Thu Jul 14, 2011 5:04 pm

Sounds like it.

Perhaps Alan Jones personal chef while he's out there looking after the battlers ;)
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Re: Federal Government proposes a price on carbon.

Postby Sky Pilot » Thu Jul 14, 2011 5:08 pm

redandblack wrote:Sounds like it.

Perhaps Alan Jones personal chef while he's out there looking after the battlers ;)

GOLD :lol:
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Re: Federal Government proposes a price on carbon.

Postby southee » Thu Jul 14, 2011 5:26 pm

redandblack wrote:Can you show me where it said about tears, mate?

It was a long article about the issues, but I'm interested in where it says she cried?


Cmon R&B...you know they were crocodile tears....no need to get technical with me there ;)

A very scripted perfromance by Gillard. :roll:
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Re: Federal Government proposes a price on carbon.

Postby redandblack » Thu Jul 14, 2011 5:44 pm

No I don't know, mate.

You said she cried. I read the article and it didn't say that at all.

It seems that Labor politicians aren't the only ones who deflect :D
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Re: Federal Government proposes a price on carbon.

Postby scoob » Thu Jul 14, 2011 5:54 pm

Finally some concrete evidence that carbon pollution isn't effecting global warming - refer to graph at bottom of story... The government is way off - only country in the world addressing global warming is Somalia.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/lat ... er-license
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Re: Federal Government proposes a price on carbon.

Postby smac » Thu Jul 14, 2011 6:04 pm

Shall we run a pool on when Abbott uses that graph? I tip next week.
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Re: Federal Government proposes a price on carbon.

Postby cripple » Thu Jul 14, 2011 6:05 pm

That is awesome. should ring up Jones, Price and Mitchell and tell them about its relevence.
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Re: Federal Government proposes a price on carbon.

Postby Sky Pilot » Thu Jul 14, 2011 6:18 pm

Julia Gillard is patronising and insulting to this woman who has her measure.

If she kept touching me in a patronising way like this I would feel like pushing her hand off and telling her not to touch me again.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-07-13/p ... an/2793274
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Re: Federal Government proposes a price on carbon.

Postby redandblack » Thu Jul 14, 2011 6:35 pm

Fair dinkum, SP :roll:

Keep an eye open for others doing the same every day.
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Re: Federal Government proposes a price on carbon.

Postby Dutchy » Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:36 pm

Sky Pilot wrote:Julia Gillard is patronising and insulting to this woman who has her measure.

If she kept touching me in a patronising way like this I would feel like pushing her hand off and telling her not to touch me again.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-07-13/p ... an/2793274


Imagine if that was a bloke doing it :shock:

Good on her, said what most Australians are feeling, she might have half a chance with us if she at least admitted she lied and misled us.

Who is that tool that kept interrupting?
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Re: Federal Government proposes a price on carbon.

Postby Sky Pilot » Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:53 pm

Dutchy wrote:
Sky Pilot wrote:Julia Gillard is patronising and insulting to this woman who has her measure.

If she kept touching me in a patronising way like this I would feel like pushing her hand off and telling her not to touch me again.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-07-13/p ... an/2793274


Imagine if that was a bloke doing it :shock:

Good on her, said what most Australians are feeling, she might have half a chance with us if she at least admitted she lied and misled us.

Who is that tool that kept interrupting?

I suspect he is one of Julia's advisers/minders. I could easily get his name if you really wanted it
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Re: Federal Government proposes a price on carbon.

Postby Gozu » Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:07 pm

Sky Pilot wrote:I suspect he is one of Julia's advisers/minders. I could easily get his name if you really wanted it


Hmmm, do we have a Liberal Party operative in our midst?
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Re: Federal Government proposes a price on carbon.

Postby Dutchy » Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:10 pm

Sky Pilot wrote:I could easily get his name if you really wanted it


No I dont
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Re: Federal Government proposes a price on carbon.

Postby southee » Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:35 pm

Sky Pilot....SAFooty's Mr Julian Assange ;)
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Re: Federal Government proposes a price on carbon.

Postby cripple » Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:40 pm

pretty sure that was the local member for the electorate she was in. Will find out soon.
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Re: Federal Government proposes a price on carbon.

Postby cripple » Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:48 pm

I was wrong, the local member for Ryan happens to be from the Liberal/ National party in Qld so not him/her. Just some minion in her midst.
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