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Re: Footy Classified...Caro's comment

Postby Footy Smart » Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:40 pm

whufc wrote:
Correction. Traditional and loyal football supporters follow their football club thru thick and thin.

Unfortunately the crows fans are neither traditional or loyal.

Whilst PAFC has always had the biggest number of frontrunner supporters in the SANFL IMHO. Looks as if nothing appears to have changed in the AFL.


I fail to see how i am not a traditional or loyal crows fan. I am young enough to say that the crows were the first team that i ever truly supported, a good year or two before i even knew who sturt were. My earliest crows memory is of the 93 finals series, especially that prelim. I have been ecstatic after two premierships and devastated after numerous final exits. what else does one need to be able to do to classify themsleves as a traditional supporter.


do you attend a crows games every game they play?????

I guess thats the difference betweena traditional fan and a crows fan.


i do, other than Saturday arvo's when i have sporting commitments.


Serious question,

How much does it cost you a year in flights and accomodation to travel interstate every second week.

pm me if you dont want to disclose a figure in public.


Apologies, I attend every home game apart from Satruday arvos due to sporting commitments! Travelling fans (week in week out) are in the minority of every club, and they must have the ability to do so and i congratulate them on doing it! Does this make them any more less passionate/traditional etc.... IMO No
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Re: Footy Classified...Caro's comment

Postby cripple » Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:43 pm

I have no problem talking about it here. I have been lucky that i can tie in watching football with other things and having relatives of mine or my wife in all the major cities makes the process a whole lot cheaper then it otherwise might be. I tend to get away with doing it for a tank of petrol, the initial price of vic membership ($150) and food, parking etc...
The main problem has been playing footy myself, especially being in a country area and only having just moved it has definitly affected that side of things but i always said i was going to do this for at least i year when i moved over and will probably do it again next year as well.
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Re: Footy Classified...Caro's comment

Postby Gravel » Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:33 pm

Incredible that some people can bag Crows fans for not being loyal fans. Many attend every game at AAMI and travel interstate regularly to support their team while we have SANFL fans who whinge about travelling to Noarlunga and/or Elizabeth and many only attend home games.
How many Doggie fans only see 1 game of footy each year - the GF?
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Re: Footy Classified...Caro's comment

Postby Interceptor » Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:37 pm

Gravel wrote:Incredible that some people can bag Crows fans for not being loyal fans. Many attend every game at AAMI and travel interstate regularly to support their team while we have SANFL fans who whinge about travelling to Noarlunga and/or Elizabeth and many only attend home games.
How many Doggie fans only see 1 game of footy each year - the GF?

Good post -from a Port supporter as well :shock:
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Re: Footy Classified...Caro's comment

Postby Booney » Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:41 pm

Interceptor wrote:
Gravel wrote:Incredible that some people can bag Crows fans for not being loyal fans. Many attend every game at AAMI and travel interstate regularly to support their team while we have SANFL fans who whinge about travelling to Noarlunga and/or Elizabeth and many only attend home games.
How many Doggie fans only see 1 game of footy each year - the GF?

Good post -from a Port supporter as well :shock:


I agree.


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Re: Footy Classified...Caro's comment

Postby Mopar Dog » Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:07 pm

Gravel wrote:Incredible that some people can bag Crows fans for not being loyal fans. Many attend every game at AAMI and travel interstate regularly to support their team while we have SANFL fans who whinge about travelling to Noarlunga and/or Elizabeth and many only attend home games.
How many Doggie fans only see 1 game of footy each year - the GF?



Many do and they are to be applauded.

The fact is the majority doesn't as reflected in the crowd figures.

I used the term traditional I guess I could of used support a local traditional team.

The other difference is between supporters of traditional clubs is you are born into supporting your club. Majority of crows fans decided to jump on in the mid 90's after supporting another club before that.

Its just a generalisation and yet again Im talking majority of crwos fans not every single fan. if you dont fit into the above category and are offended by the above statements I apologise in advance.

Personally I dont think you can compare a crows fan who decided to jump on in 1994 who attends every second week . And a Port fan who has followed the club his entire life. Supports the magpies when the power plays interstate and essentially goes to one or two games a week to support his club.

That is why I will always cheer for Port Adelaide in showdowns.
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Re: Footy Classified...Caro's comment

Postby Mopar Dog » Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:07 pm

Footy Smart wrote:
whufc wrote:
Correction. Traditional and loyal football supporters follow their football club thru thick and thin.

Unfortunately the crows fans are neither traditional or loyal.

Whilst PAFC has always had the biggest number of frontrunner supporters in the SANFL IMHO. Looks as if nothing appears to have changed in the AFL.


I fail to see how i am not a traditional or loyal crows fan. I am young enough to say that the crows were the first team that i ever truly supported, a good year or two before i even knew who sturt were. My earliest crows memory is of the 93 finals series, especially that prelim. I have been ecstatic after two premierships and devastated after numerous final exits. what else does one need to be able to do to classify themsleves as a traditional supporter.


do you attend a crows games every game they play?????

I guess thats the difference betweena traditional fan and a crows fan.


i do, other than Saturday arvo's when i have sporting commitments.


Serious question,

How much does it cost you a year in flights and accomodation to travel interstate every second week.

pm me if you dont want to disclose a figure in public.


Apologies, I attend every home game apart from Satruday arvos due to sporting commitments! Travelling fans (week in week out) are in the minority of every club, and they must have the ability to do so and i congratulate them on doing it! Does this make them any more less passionate/traditional etc.... IMO No


I disagree.
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Re: Footy Classified...Caro's comment

Postby Footy Smart » Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:22 pm

Personally I dont think you can compare a crows fan who decided to jump on in 1994 who attends every second week . And a Port fan who has followed the club his entire life. Supports the magpies when the power plays interstate and essentially goes to one or two games a week to support his club.

That is why I will always cheer for Port Adelaide in showdowns.


However are many exceptions to the rule and many variables exist within that comparison. If a person decides to support AFC from the time it started competing then you can compare it IMO, they probably still continue to support their SANFL team as well like I do Sturt. I know many a young Power supporter who supports other SANFL clubs! They support the power bacause the players came to the school etc.

IMO AFC has been around long enough to have a generational change/increase in supporter base that have been born into AFC households similar to the magpies/Power combo.
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Re: Footy Classified...Caro's comment

Postby Grahaml » Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:21 pm

I didn't realise there was a cutoff for a footy club to have been formed to be a "traditional" club (whatever that is). This talk of one club being a real club because it's older, or supporters being ranked by how many games they attend is nonsense. If someone doesn't want to go for whatever reason, why should they be forced to go to continue being a supporter? Life changes, priorities change and sometimes people decide footy isn't life and death.

As for Wilson's comment, discussion of which ended quite some time ago I think, she's made a comment that SANFL attendances are up despite AFL attendences in SA being massively down. The comment seems to only be "controversial" because someone wants to take issue with the word suprisingly. Seriously, is it worth making a big deal of? And while I have no respect at all for Hutchy, he didn't insult anyone either. He simply asked Caro if SA deserved 2 teams. He didn't give an opinion we didn't and nor did he take Caro on when she said SA did. He was just asking a fairly relevant question given the numbers about whether we could support 2 teams. How often have we questioned Victoria deserving 10 sides when some were making Port Adelaide type losses, getting Port Adelaide type attendances and being as competitive as Port Adelaide.
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Re: Footy Classified...Caro's comment

Postby overloaded » Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:28 pm

Grahaml wrote: How often have we questioned Victoria deserving 10 sides when some were making Port Adelaide type losses, getting Port Adelaide type attendances and being as competitive as Port Adelaide.


Sorry G, but wake up and smell the bacon and put your own side in that category to. :roll:
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Re: Footy Classified...Caro's comment

Postby daysofourlives » Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:30 pm

Gravel wrote:Incredible that some people can bag Crows fans for not being loyal fans. Many attend every game at AAMI and travel interstate regularly to support their team while we have SANFL fans who whinge about travelling to Noarlunga and/or Elizabeth and many only attend home games.
How many Doggie fans only see 1 game of footy each year - the GF?


I"ll put my hand up here and have done so for the last eleven years :lol: and wii do again this year
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Re: Footy Classified...Caro's comment

Postby Grahaml » Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:39 pm

overloaded wrote:
Grahaml wrote: How often have we questioned Victoria deserving 10 sides when some were making Port Adelaide type losses, getting Port Adelaide type attendances and being as competitive as Port Adelaide.


Sorry G, but wake up and smell the bacon and put your own side in that category to. :roll:


Not sure what you've been smoking if you think Port and Adelaide are in the same position.
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Re: Footy Classified...Caro's comment

Postby Gingernuts » Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:50 pm

Only just discovered this thread and I have to say it is highly amusing. :lol: :lol:

I'm an Adelaide supporter, have since I knew what football was and will be until the day I die.

I will be there in rain, hail or shine, whenever my finances permit, and no matter who is coaching or how they are travelling. My wife and I probably spend close to 1k on tickets, food, merchandise each year in support of our club.

There were 23 000 (of maybe 5k were Swans fans, granted) who sat in the driving rain a fortnight ago to watch their team despite the weather and the fact that they were on a 6 game losing streak.

But no, neither I nor my fellow supporters are traditional football fans.

Pfft.
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Re: Footy Classified...Caro's comment

Postby whufc » Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:57 am

Gingernuts wrote:Only just discovered this thread and I have to say it is highly amusing. :lol: :lol:

I'm an Adelaide supporter, have since I knew what football was and will be until the day I die.

I will be there in rain, hail or shine, whenever my finances permit, and no matter who is coaching or how they are travelling. My wife and I probably spend close to 1k on tickets, food, merchandise each year in support of our club.

There were 23 000 (of maybe 5k were Swans fans, granted) who sat in the driving rain a fortnight ago to watch their team despite the weather and the fact that they were on a 6 game losing streak.

But no, neither I nor my fellow supporters are traditional football fans.

Pfft.


traditional maybe but most are bandwagon jumpers who jumped off their SANFL clubs that they had been supporting for years to follow the bright lights.

no surprise to see so many Crows fans jump off now that times are really hard, they did this many years ago and will continue to do so.

but dont worry Crows when the wheel turns and the Crows are winning games again (which im sure will happen becuase thats the way the AFL works) they will be the first ones back.
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Re: Footy Classified...Caro's comment

Postby Mopar Dog » Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:01 am

Footy Smart wrote:
Personally I dont think you can compare a crows fan who decided to jump on in 1994 who attends every second week . And a Port fan who has followed the club his entire life. Supports the magpies when the power plays interstate and essentially goes to one or two games a week to support his club.

That is why I will always cheer for Port Adelaide in showdowns.


However are many exceptions to the rule and many variables exist within that comparison. If a person decides to support AFC from the time it started competing then you can compare it IMO, they probably still continue to support their SANFL team as well like I do Sturt. I know many a young Power supporter who supports other SANFL clubs! They support the power bacause the players came to the school etc.

IMO AFC has been around long enough to have a generational change/increase in supporter base that have been born into AFC households similar to the magpies/Power combo.


Disagree. Whether you decided to jump onto to the crows in 1991 or 2000 is irrelevant. If you were brought up to support Glenelg/Sturt/Renmark and after supporting them for 15-40 years all of a sudden decided to support the crows and make Glenelg/Sturt/Renmark your second team. That is not loyalty.

ie. you have dumped a team before whats stopping you doing it again. I believe a certain % of crows fans fit into this category.

IF a guy is 20 -25 y.o and was born into supporting the AFC . That is completely fair enough BTW.

Ill back a dedicated SANFL/Ammo/Country football fan who has not attended 5-10 games in the last 10 years. As compared to an AFL fan who has not attended 70-80 crows games in the last 10 years.
Infact I dont think they can be compared.

Crows fans are passionate. But claiming that you have supported a team for 11 years and that it is a huge tradition. I cant agree.

But thats just my opinion.
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Re: Footy Classified...Caro's comment

Postby gossipgirl » Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:17 pm

people are entitled to their opinion no matter how wrong and stupid it is. :shock:
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Re: Footy Classified...Caro's comment

Postby overloaded » Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:50 pm

gossipgirl wrote:people are entitled to their opinion no matter how wrong and stupid it is. :shock:

Just ask Caro
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Re: Footy Classified...Caro's comment

Postby LBT » Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:26 pm

whufc wrote:
Gingernuts wrote:Only just discovered this thread and I have to say it is highly amusing. :lol: :lol:

I'm an Adelaide supporter, have since I knew what football was and will be until the day I die.

I will be there in rain, hail or shine, whenever my finances permit, and no matter who is coaching or how they are travelling. My wife and I probably spend close to 1k on tickets, food, merchandise each year in support of our club.

There were 23 000 (of maybe 5k were Swans fans, granted) who sat in the driving rain a fortnight ago to watch their team despite the weather and the fact that they were on a 6 game losing streak.

But no, neither I nor my fellow supporters are traditional football fans.

Pfft.


traditional maybe but most are bandwagon jumpers who jumped off their SANFL clubs that they had been supporting for years to follow the bright lights.

no surprise to see so many Crows fans jump off now that times are really hard, they did this many years ago and will continue to do so.

but dont worry Crows when the wheel turns and the Crows are winning games again (which im sure will happen becuase thats the way the AFL works) they will be the first ones back.

says he who was a Gold Coast supporter on here for less than a month :lol:
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Re: Footy Classified...Caro's comment

Postby whufc » Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:35 pm

LBT wrote:
whufc wrote:
Gingernuts wrote:Only just discovered this thread and I have to say it is highly amusing. :lol: :lol:

I'm an Adelaide supporter, have since I knew what football was and will be until the day I die.

I will be there in rain, hail or shine, whenever my finances permit, and no matter who is coaching or how they are travelling. My wife and I probably spend close to 1k on tickets, food, merchandise each year in support of our club.

There were 23 000 (of maybe 5k were Swans fans, granted) who sat in the driving rain a fortnight ago to watch their team despite the weather and the fact that they were on a 6 game losing streak.

But no, neither I nor my fellow supporters are traditional football fans.

Pfft.


traditional maybe but most are bandwagon jumpers who jumped off their SANFL clubs that they had been supporting for years to follow the bright lights.

no surprise to see so many Crows fans jump off now that times are really hard, they did this many years ago and will continue to do so.

but dont worry Crows when the wheel turns and the Crows are winning games again (which im sure will happen becuase thats the way the AFL works) they will be the first ones back.

says he who was a Gold Coast supporter on here for less than a month :lol:


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Re: Footy Classified...Caro's comment

Postby Booney » Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:47 pm

overloaded wrote:
gossipgirl wrote:people are entitled to their opinion no matter how wrong and stupid it is. :shock:

Just ask Caro


Alot of Caro's comments ( not all ) leave her colleagues for dead.
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